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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoly Shite: Public invited to swear their allegiance as king is crowned
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/29/public-invited-to-swear-their-allegiance-as-king-is-crownedThis borders on unholy worship - sort of the thing that trump lusted after.
People around the UK and abroad will be invited to say the words I swear that I will pay true allegiance to your majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God, in a declaration that replaces the traditional homage of peers.
Saturdays service will also involve for the first time the active participation of representatives of faiths other than Christianity. Rishi Sunak, a Hindu, will give a reading from the Bible in his capacity as PM, despite Church of England law in effect barring other faiths from taking an active role in its services. There is no issue about [Sunaks] personal faith, were delighted that he is doing [this], said a Lambeth Palace spokesperson.
What - no atheists allowed? Pastafarians? Wiccans?
Aristus
(66,294 posts)were burning each other at the stake. In the grand scheme of things, this is progress.
Maru Kitteh
(28,323 posts)I really have no dog in the fight so to speak.
jimfields33
(15,703 posts)We left that place to start our own country.
erronis
(15,185 posts)and the rest of us are their serfs.
malaise
(268,717 posts)That is all
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)jrthin
(4,834 posts)brooklynite
(94,367 posts)Ocelot II
(115,610 posts)any time they want to, but so far it appears they don't want to. The monarchy may be obsolete parasites with no useful function, but one thing Britain doesn't have is mass shootings every day. If we could trade our 400,000,000 guns for Charles III and his entourage I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.
emulatorloo
(44,071 posts)As the Jim noted above, let the UK be the UK. This has absolutely zero impact on the real world.
Javaman
(62,504 posts)Ocelot II
(115,610 posts)If the Brits are cool with it (and apparently most, though not all, are), I hope they enjoy the show. Might watch it myself just because they're so good at ceremonies and they usually have really great music.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)I gained my Canadian citizenship (my father was born in Canada and never relinquished his altho he lived in the U.S. on a green card all his adult life. Canada law changed in 2009 in a way that allows me to be a citizen. So I am. It took almost two years to get the Certificate of Citizenship.
I was kind of shocked, silly me, to realize that I agreed, in an oath, to bear allegiance to the monarch. Crazy.
And so.....I guess I will watch this stuff. I hate the trappings and the endless stupid stuff of the monarchy.
Maeve
(42,271 posts)Fuck the monarchy.
Ocelot II
(115,610 posts)Fuck monarchies in general (e.g., Sweden, Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain and a few others), or just the British monarchy?
Maeve
(42,271 posts)Why? Because they teach and practice that some are entitled by birth to treat others as lesser, a philosophy that has destroyed lives for centuries. While a "benevolent monarchy" could make life better for the subjects, it tends to fall back to "power corrupts" in short order. Britain has tried to get away from that with a parliamentary government, but the class system engendered by the monarchical system still continues.
And particularly the Bits because I know them best and they have a more direct bearing on my personal family history.
Ocelot II
(115,610 posts)haven't abolished their largely powerless monarchies by an act of their Parliament, which any of them could do if they wanted.
Maeve
(42,271 posts)Sorry... one of my all time favorite musicals!
GenThePerservering
(1,774 posts)Than their sovereign grant. There's a damn good reason they're still there.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)He is that kind of guy.
Do some research.