Public opinion poll: Will Tarrio and his co-conspirators get the full 20 at their sentencing?

[jmowreader]

"They're not shooting me for deserting the United States Army, thousands of guys have done that. They just need to make an example out of somebody and I'm it because I'm an ex-con. I used to steal things when I was a kid, and that's what they are shooting me for. They're shooting me for the bread and chewing gum I stole when I was 12 years old."
--Eddie Slovik, the only US soldier executed for desertion during World War II, to the members of his firing squad on the morning of his death

There is much joy in Mudville as Enrique Tarrio and three other Proud Boys have struck out: they were all convicted of Seditious Conspiracy, said to be the hardest crime the insurrectionists could have been charged with to get a conviction on.

This crime carries a maximum sentence of 20 years.

I suspect they will get the maximum because of all the evil he has perpetrated in his life. What do you think?

[former9thward]

1. No they will not get 20.

I don't know their past criminal history. That will play a big part in the sentence. Who is the "he" past the word evil? If it is not one of the defendants the "he" will play no role in sentencing.

[Effete Snob]

5. This was one of the best posts on DU this week:

Rarely do people put in the work to support their opinions:


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217882393#post5

The base offense level for violations 18 USC 2384 is 26 and there is a 2 level increase for the use of violence. Assuming offense level 28 is applicable, the guidelines call for 78-97 months for a convict has no criminal history, and 140-175 months for a convict in the most severe criminal history category.

https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2021-guidelines-manual-annotated

[jmowreader]

8. He is Tarrio

This is his rap sheet from Wikipedia:

2004: got 3 years probation and restitution for theft
2013: got 30 months and served 16 for stealing, rebranding and selling diabetic test strips
2021: got 155 days and served 63 for burning the BLM banner and possessing illegal gun magazines

[walkingman]

2. I think they deserve it but I seriously doubt the sentence will be meaningful.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

3. That Thranos loser lady got 11 years and she flushed billions down the drain

laughing all the way


I bet then end up around 10 years and we the peons are supposed to be happy But if they just accept a deal for 10 I would be happy, if they go to a judge or jury, they should get more !

[Effete Snob]

4. "I suspect they will get the maximum"

Did you read the federal sentencing guidelines?

Sometimes, while we are all excited to state our opinions. The informed commentary of other DUers is worth actually reading:

DUer Gregarious Groundhog, put in the actual work:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217882393#post5

The base offense level for violations 18 USC 2384 is 26 and there is a 2 level increase for the use of violence. Assuming offense level 28 is applicable, the guidelines call for 78-97 months for a convict has no criminal history, and 140-175 months for a convict in the most severe criminal history category.

https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/2021-guidelines-manual-annotated

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Maybe close, 17-18 years, but I don't expect them To get the full 20

Unless, possibly, the government seeks sentencing enhancements such as terrorism.

We won’t know for a few months at least.

[gratuitous]

7. It's not like they're a bunch of teen-agers conned by the FBI to set a fake bomb

That will get you a long stretch in the federal pokey. This was just a garden-variety extensively planned insurrection.