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Demovictory9

(32,421 posts)
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 05:54 PM Jun 2023

"Sound of Music" got edited or banned in my CA community..Nazi imagery

No link..reading story in my local paper.. Parent objected to Nazi in the play. The school district edited out nazi stuff. So i guess its just a play about singing now.


.planning editing. Or banning other plays even at.high school level because of parental objections


Other plays are contentious now that parents are emboldened to object

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"Sound of Music" got edited or banned in my CA community..Nazi imagery (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2023 OP
Find something to object to. Have at it. bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #1
geez-the theme of the story was how Nazi were taking over Austria and the Captian riversedge Jun 2023 #2
Which is their chief complaint. OldBaldy1701E Jun 2023 #5
What in God's name was their reasoning? whathehell Jun 2023 #3
Will seek out more info Demovictory9 Jun 2023 #8
Ok, thanks. n/t whathehell Jun 2023 #12
Oh, for the love of gawd. Let's just wipe out history completely. Why should children sinkingfeeling Jun 2023 #4
This is the opposite of the anti CTE crew? JanMichael Jun 2023 #6
Not sure..could be parent against showing whites in negative light Demovictory9 Jun 2023 #7
CTE? Celerity Jun 2023 #26
CRT I think I may have a TBI JanMichael Jun 2023 #29
Maybe we need to write more stories without bad guys... Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #9
Is it this? Nazi Images and 6th Graders (Fullerton Observer) Celerity Jun 2023 #10
Yes..thats my source paper but didderent article or letter describes the patental issue Demovictory9 Jun 2023 #13
It is a teachable moment that has been lost Hekate Jun 2023 #15
I watched that movie on a regular basis since I was a young kid, Crunchy Frog Jun 2023 #24
so did they ban xtian imagery too? that's got a bigger death list than nazis nt msongs Jun 2023 #11
Yeah, and Snow White was really grooming those seven dwarfs, not to mention co-habitating allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #14
That seems disturbing... Dr. Strange Jun 2023 #16
Ugh, horrible. It's good that they cast young adults and even age up the characters, but... Bucky Jun 2023 #18
Since dwarfism is a medical term, this is not OK. CTyankee Jun 2023 #20
The Von Trapp family runs away from what now? Bucky Jun 2023 #17
The Von Trapp family are running away from Macedonians. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #28
can we call the passion play a snuff film and ban that too? dembotoz Jun 2023 #19
How is there no link? BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jun 2023 #25
What will the do with The Diary of Anne Frank? kskiska Jun 2023 #22
Make it a story about camping in an attic Demovictory9 Jun 2023 #23
Unfucking believable. Initech Jun 2023 #27
This movie is seen - and loved - all over Germany and Austria FakeNoose Jun 2023 #30

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
1. Find something to object to. Have at it.
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 05:55 PM
Jun 2023

"Somewhere over a rainbow" would seem ripe for banning in this climate. Reagan and the Chimpanzees too, "Bedtime for Bonzo".

riversedge

(70,077 posts)
2. geez-the theme of the story was how Nazi were taking over Austria and the Captian
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 05:57 PM
Jun 2023

had to get his family over the mts to Switz. what is left--the romance--so Maria --can not marry the Captain??

gods!!

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
5. Which is their chief complaint.
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 06:24 PM
Jun 2023

We can't have people escaping the regime and showing how corrupt it is. We can't have someone removing several good workers either. Time to change the script to show that Von Trapp was actually a good Nazi but just went along with his 'woke' friend to keep the liberals from taking his kids before they could pledge themselves to the one true power.

(This is only the beginning. They will try to censure anything and everything they don't like. And, they don't like anything other than Camazotz.)

sinkingfeeling

(51,436 posts)
4. Oh, for the love of gawd. Let's just wipe out history completely. Why should children
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 06:06 PM
Jun 2023

learn about an evil, fascist, warmongering regime?

Celerity

(43,089 posts)
10. Is it this? Nazi Images and 6th Graders (Fullerton Observer)
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 06:50 PM
Jun 2023
https://fullertonobserver.com/2023/06/01/nazi-images-and-6th-graders/

“Let’s Start at the Very Beginning” – Do-Re-Mi from The Sound of Music

As a Jew and lover of musicals living and studying in Vienna, Austria, in the 60s, I was interested in seeing The Sound of Music dubbed into German. When they sang “Climb Every Mountain,” the audience, living in an Alpine country, understandably laughed. It would be like hearing in Fullerton a song celebrating “Drive Every Freeway.” However, when Uncle Max, in anger and disgust, tore down the Nazi flag with its swastika, the whole audience gasped. They were still living under the shadow of Nazi-induced fear and hatred. Without that flag, without Max’s rebellion, the driving force of the story is lost.

The Sound of Music is, on its surface, a sweet love story about a Catholic Novitiate falling in love with a Baron and his children. However, its subplot is about the oldest daughter falling in love with a seemingly nice young man who reveals that he has joined the Nazi cause.

Underlying the plot, beneath its sugary and romantic surface is the seduction of good people by an ideology of hate and violence. The story is about this family standing against the Nazis and having to flee for their lives to Switzerland. Cutting out the reality of Naziism and its symbols renders this story meaningless. Replacing the rightly hated swastika with a rainbow or unicorn, or as in Europe today, an abstract lightning bolt, is to tell a lie. But it’s complicated.

If you are going to do The Sound of Music, cleaning it up is to change its meaning, but not cleaning it up can cause pain to people in the community and confuse 6th graders who may be dressed in brownshirts with swastikas and have to say “Heil Hitler.” Can they understand the hatred at the core of the symbols, and can such understanding lead to compassion and empathy for all who are hated, oppressed, and marginalized? Is this a teachable moment? I don’t know.

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Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
24. I watched that movie on a regular basis since I was a young kid,
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 04:05 PM
Jun 2023

and I was never "confused" by it.

What a load of hogwash.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
14. Yeah, and Snow White was really grooming those seven dwarfs, not to mention co-habitating
Sat Jun 3, 2023, 04:26 PM
Jun 2023

without benefit of marriage.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
18. Ugh, horrible. It's good that they cast young adults and even age up the characters, but...
Sat Jun 3, 2023, 08:51 PM
Jun 2023

I think Disney movies ought to start having princesses be at least out of college and well along into their established careers before hooking up with future prince charmings. There's no reason why they can't have a mid-40s single mom as the next Disney Princess.

Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #21)

FakeNoose

(32,577 posts)
30. This movie is seen - and loved - all over Germany and Austria
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 07:18 PM
Jun 2023

If they don't object to how the Nozis are depicted (truthfully) how can you community have a problem with it?

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