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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think we'll see indictments in DC and New Jersey soon?
The documents crime took place in DC and New Jersey (Bedminster resort) too.
Do you think Jack Smith will release indictments there? I haven't seen a Grand jury in New Jersey yet, so not sure if he's even pursuing that.
We really need backups to Florida in case Aileen Cannon torpedoes the case.
Jarqui
(10,110 posts)or be removed from this case for legal reasons related to what she did previously.
I do think DC is likely to get some indictments (Mark Meadows if he hasn't flipped for example ... and the FL case may inspire him to flip).
Not sure about NJ
gab13by13
(20,867 posts)she will have to be forced out. DOJ will have to request that she recuse herself and it is not clear if Jack Smith will do that.
Jarqui
(10,110 posts)onenote
(42,381 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 10, 2023, 02:21 PM - Edit history (1)
The Court ripped apart her decision in the special master case on the legal merits. It did not find or even suggest she acted out of bias. If it had, it would have sent the case back to a different judge on remand instead of remanding it to her. On remand, she followed the decision of the 11th Circuit. And when an ethics complaint alleging bias was filed with the 11th Circuit, it was summarily rejected on the grounds that a bad decision is not an ethics violation:
"The Complaint fails to present a basis for a finding of misconduct. To the extent Complainants allegations concern the substance of the Subject Judges official actions, rulings, findings, and orders in the above-described case, the allegations are directly related to the merits of the Subject Judges decisions or procedural rulings. Judicial Conduct Rule 11(c)(1)(B). Complainants remaining claims are based on allegations lacking sufficient evidence to raise an inference that the Subject Judge acted with an illicit or improper motive, was biased, used her office to obtain special treatment for the plaintiff, violated her oath of office, colluded with others, or otherwise engaged in misconduct. Judicial Conduct Rule 11(c)(1)(D). For these reasons, this Complaint is DISMISSED."
Whether he could or would seek to have the case heard in the West Palm division by a judge assigned to that decision is a separate question.
Native
(5,935 posts)Jarqui
(10,110 posts)Meadows into flipping - which might be why they started in FL.
No matter how the GOP howl to the media, this FL indictment has to rattle them behind closed doors. Not even Epstein implicated Dershowitz could dismiss it entirely.
Native
(5,935 posts)Jarqui
(10,110 posts)Native
(5,935 posts)Meadows is probably fearing for his life, so they felt they had to say something. Considering all the ridiculous bullshit Maggots believe, I guess they'd buy Meadows getting limited immunity just for fun too.
Jarqui
(10,110 posts)There is probably immense pressure on him from both sides.
Bulls**t: Meadows lawyer denies he flipped but legal experts say Trump should be worried
The Independent reported that Meadows would plead guilty to federal crimes and receive limited immunity to testify
https://www.salon.com/2023/06/08/bullst-meadows-lawyer-denies-he-flipped--but-legal-experts-say-should-be-worried/
The Independent amended their story with Meadows' lawyer's denial.
But multiple reports are that he testified both in the documents case and Jan 6th.
To do that, he would either plead the 5th or testify with immunity/a plea deal.
Since the lawyer denied a plea deal and wouldn't comment on an immunity deal, it seems likely he's got some sort of immunity deal (and maybe that is why there is not DC case - or a DC case ... yet?)
Native
(5,935 posts)gab13by13
(20,867 posts)No indictment for Bedminster because I do not believe that Jack Smith has possession of the documents Trump supposedly had there.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)And that could in turn justify a NJ search warrant.
Native
(5,935 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,369 posts)Just a reminder that the existence of the Florida GJ wasnt known until just before the indictments dropped, and they had been convened for at least a month beforehand, so