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Romney just lost the general election (Original Post) usregimechange Jan 2012 OP
when he says "closer to 15%" Skittles Jan 2012 #1
Oh. It would be nice to see this drag on and see a lower rate revealed. Glimmer of Hope Jan 2012 #9
"Closer" - like 8 or 10%, maybe? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2012 #10
What in the hell do you expect him to pay!! kentuck Jan 2012 #2
He paid more than GE did. julian09 Jan 2012 #5
Corporations are people, too. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2012 #11
I think he is living off his investments. He hadn't had a real job in 10 yrs. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #7
He doesn't work so no fica taxes either.. julian09 Jan 2012 #8
Sadly, much of America clings to the idea that they're just one powerball away from the big score Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #3
K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2012 #22
Romney is pure scum, but there are so so so many (of all ideological persuasions) who pay close to stockholmer Jan 2012 #4
Yes but those wealthy backers are willing to pay a higher rate. And... FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #16
K&R. nt DesertFlower Jan 2012 #6
People should pressure him to release his tax returns going back 10 years. Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #12
The closer to April 15 this revelation is made, the more it hurts Romney. Bozita Jan 2012 #13
speaker fees = "not very much" = $360,000!! US citizens will not take kindly to this dismissal nt msongs Jan 2012 #14
For me, this is the knock-out punch. Ilsa Jan 2012 #20
Romney's tax reform plan would bring his own rate to nearly 0%. pa28 Jan 2012 #15
now that is more along the lines of a tactic that will work stockholmer Jan 2012 #18
Probably? Life Long Dem Jan 2012 #17
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #19
This paragraph says it all tech3149 Jan 2012 #21

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. Sadly, much of America clings to the idea that they're just one powerball away from the big score
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:50 PM
Jan 2012

otherwise, you would have seen action on capital gains rates a long time ago.

 

stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
4. Romney is pure scum, but there are so so so many (of all ideological persuasions) who pay close to
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jan 2012

this rate. The fault is that capital gains are not taxed as ordinary income, plus a myriad number of other loopholes. All Romney is going to do to deflect this is list off a bunch of Democrats (Nancy Pelosi, Jay Rockefeller, etc) and their wealthy backers (George Soros etc) who pay the close to the same rate as him, as well as point out that the bottom 45% of Americans pay no federal income tax or get money back. (And yes, I am very aware that no matter how poor you are, you pay sales tax, FICA, and health expenses).

I agree it is outrageous that people like Romney pay so little, but he is hardly alone.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
16. Yes but those wealthy backers are willing to pay a higher rate. And...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jan 2012

Playing the "45% of Americans pay no federal income tax or get money back" card is going to miserably FAIL because most of those people are senior citizens who have already paid fed income tax on their SS or people with disabilities who are unable to work.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. People should pressure him to release his tax returns going back 10 years.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:03 PM
Jan 2012

WTF is he hiding? Many folks applying for a mortgage have to provide their tax returns. This guy wants to be President.

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
13. The closer to April 15 this revelation is made, the more it hurts Romney.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:03 PM
Jan 2012

And you can bet on his rate being closer to 10% than 15%.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. For me, this is the knock-out punch.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jan 2012

He can't help the tax rates. But he can help his attitude and knowledge about money and what is a meaningful amount. This comment and the $10,000 bet are an insult to normal working people.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
15. Romney's tax reform plan would bring his own rate to nearly 0%.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jan 2012

If we can't find a way to nail him with that fact we probably deserve to lose.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
21. This paragraph says it all
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 10:36 PM
Jan 2012

“Very high-income people of this country pay roughly 15 percent of taxes if their resources are coming from investments, and under their plan it would go to zero,” said Romney. “I just don’t think that’s the right course. I think that with our precious dollars we should focus on providing relief – tax relief – really in two areas: one is for middle-income Americans that have been hurt the most and secondly is to bring our corporate tax rates to a level where we could draw people from other countries to bring their funds into this country.”

Really?? I mean seriously. Richie Rich only pays about 15% ( not counting those rebates and deductions that can take it to 0%) And you just want to say "Screw It" and just let them slide?

Well you can just kiss my tired old skinny white ass if you think I'll let that fly. I worked my ass off for a whole lot of years to finally get a decent income. I never payed less than 30% in federal taxes, add another 3-6% state income taxes.
You know what? I'm glad I could do that. It wasn't a burden or a theft, it was my goddamned responsibility!
How's this for an idea? If paying taxes at whatever rate is such a burden, why don't you take all that money you're keeping and go buy an island. Set up your own utilities, security, build your own house, roads and whatever else you need. Don't have the skills to do that? No problem! Most of us 99%r's can do that shit in our sleep and still have the energy to play a game of softball after a 16hr day. Oh, by the way that $20-30 an hour salary? Kiss that shit goodbye. It'll be no less than $150/hr plus travel and living expenses. That will include liquor, drugs,entertainment and any other shit we can think up. REMINDER: Many of us have seen those bullshit expense reports submitted by these "Captains of Industry". Just try and justify that $600 for nine holes as a legitimate business expense. Not gonna fly with me and I figure the rest of the country.

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