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Irish_Dem

(55,278 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:32 PM Mar 2024

Do citizens in a democracy have the right to vote out democracy and vote in fascism?

To do away with elected leadership and vote for a life time dictator?

Vote to destroy the US Constitution?

Allow all three branches of government to be corrupt, take bribes and act against the law?

Allow known criminals to hold office and go on continuous crime sprees with no consequences?

Vote in white male christian minority rule?

Vote that church rules become the law of the land? We all will be forced to be born again evangelicals.

Do voters in a democracy have a right to vote out democracy?

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Do citizens in a democracy have the right to vote out democracy and vote in fascism? (Original Post) Irish_Dem Mar 2024 OP
Founders thought elections would result in a perpetual generational revolution bucolic_frolic Mar 2024 #1
I think they foresaw corruption and the dark side of human nature to some extent. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #5
Right to has no functional impact if that is the outcome. TheKentuckian Mar 2024 #2
Then it is a de facto right to vote out democracy. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #6
i would say no oldinmtdem92 Mar 2024 #3
Some voters voting for fascism. Others wanting to revolt against it. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #8
When I was a child at my mother's knee she told me that if America were ever taken over by autocrats... Hekate Mar 2024 #4
Your mom nailed it. Irish_Dem Mar 2024 #7

bucolic_frolic

(45,608 posts)
1. Founders thought elections would result in a perpetual generational revolution
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:40 PM
Mar 2024

that refreshed society and eliminated the need to replace the system of government. I would argue they were not incorrect, but that technology, the pace of modern society, the corruption of human nature were all things they couldn't foresee.

Good news is we don't have to do anything mentioned in the OP. Without a functioning SCOTUS that can read the Constitution the fascists are within reach of all they want without doing much at all. They won't go away if TSF is defeated. Today they shelved parts of the Constitution in 14A Sec 3.

If we are lucky we'll muddle through until nothing much functions and there is a real common man movement. We are in this micro-managing mode. Can't go right, can't go left, litigate everything to not much outcome. Life is too technical.

Irish_Dem

(55,278 posts)
5. I think they foresaw corruption and the dark side of human nature to some extent.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:49 PM
Mar 2024

They built in so many damn checks and balances.

However none of them seem to work very well.

We didn't understand the entire US government is run on the honor system.
And when there is no honor, we have no functioning government.

Yes Trump is just a symptom of the problem.
The GOP fascist infrastructure is all in place.

TheKentuckian

(25,635 posts)
2. Right to has no functional impact if that is the outcome.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:46 PM
Mar 2024

You can vote a facsist regime in but you won't get a chance to vote them out.

Right or lack thereof didn't help Germany a bit.

Irish_Dem

(55,278 posts)
6. Then it is a de facto right to vote out democracy.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:51 PM
Mar 2024

They have a right to vote for a man and political party which promises a dictatorship.

Yes you are correct. They vote out the right to ever vote again.

oldinmtdem92

(47 posts)
3. i would say no
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:48 PM
Mar 2024

but it looks like that's where the Americas oligarchs' are taking us there should not be billionaires .their all evil . tax cheats, bribe payers, lobbyist money, truly money is the root of all evil, look what citizens united did dark money awash in congress ,maybe it is time for the revolution ?

Irish_Dem

(55,278 posts)
8. Some voters voting for fascism. Others wanting to revolt against it.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 05:55 PM
Mar 2024

Either way the PutinGOP wins.
Divide and conquer.

Yes it may take Americans losing their rights for them to wake up and consider revolution.

Hekate

(93,385 posts)
4. When I was a child at my mother's knee she told me that if America were ever taken over by autocrats...
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 04:50 PM
Mar 2024

… (Communists, Nazis, Fascists) it would be because we had voted them in.

Mom was born in 1924, and she was an aware person.

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