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H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:06 PM Nov 2012

Journey to Ixtlan

On Tuesday, November 20, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced that the state will not meet a key regulatory deadline concerning proposed fracking for gas. The delay, which re-opens the public comment period, is to allow a medical panel time to evaluate the health risks associated with hydrofracking.

Gas industry mercenary Dan Fitzsimmons told reporters that Cuomo’s decision “is a breach of faith in our government and flies in the face of the promise that New York is beyond its dysfunction and truly open for new business investment.”

Governor Cuomo responded to Fitzsimmons’ comment by telling a reporter, “Yeah, well they get paid to make an argument, and that’s what they do.”

The idea of a health-impact study had long been considered by the pro-environment citizens in the state. For some time, it had been deemed “too expensive” by state officials. However, at the April meeting that I arranged for representatives of the state-wide grass roots activists with Robert Kennedy, Jr., the possibility was raised by Ithaca College scholar-in-residence Sandra Steingraber. (Older D.U.ers may recall a photo of Sandra, Robert, and I from the meeting, which I posted here.) Sandra not only had strong beliefs about the need for such a study -- she also had secured financial backing for it.

The Gannett News story that ran in the Wednesday, November 21 front-page article on Governor Cuomo’s decision quoted Dr. Steingraber: “People throughout New York do not want to be poisoned by fracking.”

Interesting, in an interview on radio, Governor Cuomo echoed this: “People don’t want to be poisoned.”

As the Democratic Underground’s waterman-in-residence, I’m pleased with this decision by Governor Cuomo. Of course, it does signal a possible shift in Governor Cuomo’s perception. More, as Rubin used to tell me, “Small doors sometimes open into large rooms.” Having the public comment period re-opened allows us a solid opportunity. And it may be what allows us to lobby with Michelle Obama, who I consider one of the most intelligent, compassionate, and capable individuals to ever inhabit Washington, DC.

Below is the letter that Yoko sent out, on behalf of Sean and her. Earlier today, I spoke with one of her best friends -- also active in the movement -- about the possibility of a waterman interview with them.

(On a final note, the son of my second-cousin and top assistant just called me. He is finishing up the last class he needs for his Masters. The final assignment is to interview a public servant, and he picked me! How cool is that?)

Keep on fighting the Good Fight, my forum friends. This is a unique period in our history. And no state or federal official or agency is going to “save” the United States. But we will. Believe it.
Peace,
H2O Man



Dear All,

I truly believe that all of your work against fracking had an effect on Governor Cuomo's recent comments.

We are glad that we have a wise and courageous Governor. We are immensely lucky.

In celebration of this amazing turn of events, I wish to thank you for all of your incredible efforts in working day and night and imagine a beautiful future for all of us.

For those of us living with fracking everyday already, we are with you. I know we are already in a frack free world in spirit.

We will be there in reality very, very soon!

Thank you, thank you, thank you,

Yoko & Sean

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Journey to Ixtlan (Original Post) H2O Man Nov 2012 OP
As An Upstate New Yorker - I Salute Your Efforts! cantbeserious Nov 2012 #1
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2012 #2
Agreed - There Are Few Places As Nice And Sadly So Few Seem To Realize How Nice It Is cantbeserious Nov 2012 #4
Great news malaise Nov 2012 #3
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2012 #19
Nice coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #5
Dogs bark; H2O Man Nov 2012 #20
Yay for nature then coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #28
Coincidentally . . . . . coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #6
If You Found The Book Intriguing Then The Web Site Essential Knowledge cantbeserious Nov 2012 #7
Wow thanks! n/t coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #17
The first three books H2O Man Nov 2012 #21
I hope I can find the book coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #29
Oh Hell Yes! hootinholler Nov 2012 #8
My wife & kids H2O Man Nov 2012 #22
This Is Splendid News Me. Nov 2012 #9
This Rocky fellow H2O Man Nov 2012 #23
And Bury It We Must Me. Nov 2012 #24
Nice You Tube Video On NY State Efforts To Ban Fracking cantbeserious Nov 2012 #10
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2012 #26
Fracking Hell: The Untold Story cantbeserious Nov 2012 #11
Thanks again! H2O Man Nov 2012 #27
Very good work being done there, my friend. annabanana Nov 2012 #12
Good show, H2O Man... immoderate Nov 2012 #13
Very cool! Thanks for all you do, H2O! K&R nt Mnemosyne Nov 2012 #14
"A warrior proceeds strategically." bleever Nov 2012 #15
K&R!!!!! burrowowl Nov 2012 #16
"no state or federal official or agency is going to “save” the United States. But we will." Zorra Nov 2012 #18
My dear H20 Man... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #25
Thank you, thank you, thank you. spanone Nov 2012 #30
Great news Beringia Nov 2012 #31

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
2. Thanks!
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:12 PM
Nov 2012

I live in Upstate New York, too. And entirely by choice, as well. It is a wonderful part of this living planet that we call "Earth."

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
5. Nice
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:20 PM
Nov 2012

Good work H20! And you got Yoko's approval, even better. In fact that is really awesome!

Proud of you.

I'm so glad we have people like you in this country willing to fight for what is good for the planet -- and it's inhabitants.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
20. Dogs bark;
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:51 AM
Nov 2012

cats meow; cows moo; and watermen fight for social justice. I have no say in this -- its nature's way.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
6. Coincidentally . . . . .
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:22 PM
Nov 2012

I just read Journey to Ixtlan in this past year. Strange, interesting, I was not sure what to make of it. But I like it.

Castaneda was either completely crazy, a complete liar, or completely and utterly amazing.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
7. If You Found The Book Intriguing Then The Web Site Essential Knowledge
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:32 PM
Nov 2012

Will be very interesting since all of the concepts and topics in Castaneda's books are neatly summarized.

Here is the web link: http://essential-knowledge.net/

Enjoy!

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
21. The first three books
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:54 AM
Nov 2012

are solid; those that follow are not as good, in my humble opinion.

In JtI, the last chapter (20) has the most meaning.

A person who is both crazy by society's standards, and utterly amazing, might -- from time to time -- engage in minor fib-telling. No one is perfect, in that sense.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
22. My wife & kids
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:00 AM
Nov 2012

have, from time to time, said that I am the most stubborn person in human history .....as if that is a bad thing. Heck, I am a Taurus. And, being convinced that hydrofracking is dangerous and indeed evil, I attempt to channel that natural (and often un-natural) stubborness into meaningful struggle.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. This Is Splendid News
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 09:00 PM
Nov 2012

My friend Rocky and I are thrilled and think this OP is a good one for it gives hope that change can come, mainly through persistence and dedication. I don't know why Cuomo changed his mind but I hope it spreads. I also think it amazing that Dr. Steingraber was able to secure funding. Another rare event. I read an article in 2003 in which the author claimed the country was getting more progressive. I posted several threads from then on about emerging signs that the author was right and you can just imagine the responses I got. Well I can understand it because a darkness seemed to cover the land. But I feel a sense of brightness now and efforts like your is bringing forth the light.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
23. This Rocky fellow
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:05 AM
Nov 2012

disassembled one of my finest examples of stone-work in my favorite flower garden this morning. I used, among other things, literally hundreds of artifacts and fossils. He apparently smelled a mouse.

More, in a day in his life, he dug some of the thousand holes he's dug in my lawn. Now he knows how many holes it takes to fill our lawn. 'Spect those holes will provide a good place to bury that darkness you spoke of.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
13. Good show, H2O Man...
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 10:45 PM
Nov 2012

New York has a surprisingly reactionary governor and legislature. This is a hard nut to crack, but you're on the way. Very impressive.

--imm

bleever

(20,616 posts)
15. "A warrior proceeds strategically."
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:30 PM
Nov 2012

"If one wants to stop our fellow men one must always be outside the circle that presses them. That way one can always direct the pressure."

Best wishes, as always!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. "no state or federal official or agency is going to “save” the United States. But we will."
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:28 AM
Nov 2012

Thank you so very, very much for all of you are doing on our behalf.


CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
25. My dear H20 Man...
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:15 PM
Nov 2012

You say you're stubborn.......and I say that's a good thing.

It takes a stubborn man to push the truth onto those who would not see...

And you are not old and broken.

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