Trump is now reposting videos that (checks notes) threatens to kill all liberals if Elected

[Mr.WeRP]

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From: https://newrepublic.com/article/181973/trump-media-attacks-media-dangerous-turn

Scarborough and the whole Morning Joe crew have been stern Trump critics for years, but I’d like to focus on something beyond Scarborough here: the video’s declaration that if Trump wins the presidency, “liberals” are “done.”

As the man delicately puts it:

He’ll get rid of all you fucking liberals. You liberals are gone when he fucking wins. You fucking blowjob liberals are done. Uncle Donnie’s gonna take this election—landslide. Landslide, you fucking half a blowjob. Landslide. Get the fuck out of here, you scumbag.

By posting this video, Trump appears to be endorsing that sentiment about not only Scarborough but about liberals generally. Shouldn’t that be pretty big news in and of itself?

[ColinC]

1. Should probably get a little more attention

[wnylib]

2. Inaccurate hyperbole in the OP heading.

According to the linked article, the video that Trump posted does NOT say anything about killing liberals. It says that Trump will get vengeance by prosecuting them.

[Mr.WeRP]

3. Did you read the transcript from the video? It isn't hype.

He’ll get rid of all you fucking liberals. You liberals are gone when he fucking wins. You fucking blowjob liberals are done.

[wnylib]

4. Yes, I read it. Gone does not equal dead.

Politicians - gone from office. Journalists gone from broadcasting and print. Comedians gone from the airwaves and nightclubs. Any critics of Trump gone from public forums because he will make it illegal for them to operate. He will prosecute them and might imprison them.

Those are all horrific losses of freedom and the end of democracy. But, it is not killing.

[Mr.WeRP]

5. Ummm your logic is flawed friend

This was in reference to the man yelling at Joe Scarborough, who, checks notes, has not been a politician for decades and is more recognized for his show, one that is considered liberal.

It also appears you haven’t been paying attention to the coded language used by MAGA. Gone doesn’t mean removed from position…

[canuckledragger]

9. Some people aren't very subtle about their loyalties

...as they try to defend the indefensible.

Some here have a long track record of doing so.

[wnylib]

10. Appears? Well, you know what they say about appearances being deceiving..

In your subjective interpretation of what I say, it "appears" to you that I don't pay attention to MAGA coded language (more accurately Trump's mob speak). But that's your subjective interpretation. I am very much aware of mob speak, coded language, dog whistles, etc. I am also capable of seeing nuances and I don't lump all angry threats into one basket.

[shrike3]

12. Gone means dead. I don't think there's any doubt.

[wnylib]

44. When I divorced my husband, he was gone, completely out of my life

for good. But he was not dead until some years later.

My cousin from out of town visited over the holiday weekend. He and his wife are gone now, back home, but still alive.

My county government used to be solidly Democratic for many years in the past. But Republicans managed to get elected and have held onto the county government for a couple decades. Now Dems are gone from County government and the RWers have such a strong hold on it that flipping it back to Dems seems impossible. But, although Dems are gone from the county government, we are not all physically dead.

In the last election, Republicans took over city government, too. Dems are gone from City Hall but are not dead.

Dictionary definition of "gone."

https://www.google.com/search?q=gone+defonition&oq=gone+defonition&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13i512j0i13i15i30l11j0i5i13i30l2.17543j0j7&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8




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[shrike3]

45. You're not MAGA. I've heard the MAGA use the term "gone" when it comes to liberals.

When they're feeling magnanimous, it means they want us to leave the country.

[senseandsensibility]

13. Welcome to DU

Mr. WeRP!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. It's weasel wording. Pair it with the use of "vermin" and get back to us. . . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. You've never heard of Weed B Gon. . . . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. What other uses of "gone" come to mind? Deportation. Concentration camps. Do you prefer those meanings?

[wnylib]

25. So, let's see how that works.

The claim that I was responding to was that Trump will kill all liberals. 81 million Americans voted for Biden in 2020. Not all of them were liberals. We know that some Republicans voted for Biden and probably Independents who lean left (and could be called liberal), and some conservative Independents as well. But liberal (Dem) voting was high, whether in person or by mail in ballot.

I don't know exactly how many Biden voters were conservatives who were fed up with Trump, but certainly less than half of the 81 million Biden voters. 30 million would be a generous number, leaving 51 million liberals. And, for whatever reasons, probably not every registered Dem voted, meaning that there are more liberals in the country than the ones who voted in 2020.

Trump is going to kill 51 million+ liberals? Even Hitler only managed approximately 14 million counting Soviet POWs, Poles, Roma, Serbs, people with disabilities, in addition to the 6 million Jews.

Meantime, Trump will also be rounding up and deporting around 9 to 11 million non citizens in the US.

I don't underestimate the vicious cruelty of Trump and the people around him like Miller, Bannon, Jones. I don't doubt their willingness to kill perceived enemies. I fully expect violence before, during, and after the election, regardless of who wins. I expect some assassination attempts against leading Dem politicians. I believe that the election will be very ugly.

But I do not believe that they will systematically kill ALL liberals even if they win, whether honestly or by fraudent takeover. I do not believe that they're logistically capable of it. It would turn into a civil war because we'd fight back. Instead, they'd expect to subdue the masses through terror attacks on select locations.

I do not believe that Trump posted the video with a plan or intent to kill all liberals. I believe that he posted it to intimidate and that we play into his hands if we tremble over it. We should certainly prepare for brutality and be ready to fight back when he either wins or loses because he definitely will not accept a loss. But right now, at this point, we should not hand over to him the power of fear over us by taking logistically impossible threats as real possibilities.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Well written post, esp last para. We must "not underestimate the cruelty of Trump" and his people. . . nt

[shrike3]

39. It doesn't matter if all Biden voters are not liberals.

They will be seen that way by MAGA. And acknowledging what that threat means is not trembling. It's realism.

[wnylib]

41. Realism? I think you missed my point completely.

First, how would MAGAs know how voters who are not liberal voted? Even if they did know how everyone voted, that would increase the number of liberals for them to kill from my estimate of 51 million to the full 81 million who voted for Biden. As I pointed out in my earlier post, Hitler managed to kill an estimated 14 million people in Europe. He had manpower from not only the German SS, but also from collaborators in occupied countries.

Trump and his MAGAs would need to track down and kill 81 million people while also tracking down and deporting 11 million non citizens. Realistically not possible.

I am NOT trying to downplay the threat that Trump and MAGAs pose to the nation as a whole and especially to people they consider their enemies. I believe that they would gladly kill prominent people that they especially hate in order to make an example of them. I think that they would make a hit list and might even have created one already. The value of killing well known opponents of theirs is the fear factor. Some of us would be so incensed that we'd immediately fight back. But most people would be frightened into silence and compliance. That's how dictators control the masses - with example cases to instill fear and intimidation.

Wannabe dictators who want to take control of democracies do it through the appearance of legitimate processes like elections. They try to rig the elections in their favor. They also use a lot of smoke and mirrors manipulation of people's expectations to justify overthrowing elections that they lose. Trump is doing that again, as he did in 2020.

He is using the victim role to instill anger in his followers. He is also using the avenging persecutor role to instill fear in his opponents. I am sure that he and his followers will persecute his opponents for vengeance. He will remove them from airwaves, from political offices, from schools and universities, most likely to prison. And he will kill some in order to set an intimidating example. But he will not even be logistically able to carry out an extreme threat of killing ALL liberals. When he says "Gone," he is IMO, saying that the power and freedoms of liberals will be over under his rule. He will never allow them to speak freely, let alone run for office. Those in office will be forced out.

Right now he uses intimidation to silence his opponents. It works with Congressional Republicans. If it works with liberals, then he will win before the election even happens. Timothy Snyder, an expert on dictator takeovers, advises people not to start anticipating the worst and complying in advance out of fear because it helps the dictator gain control.

I am NOT saying that Trump and his MAGAs would not kill people. They would and they will kill some. I am objecting to the hyperbole in the OP because it creates the kind of fear that paralyzes people into compliance and silence BEFORE the orange fascist even has the power to carry out his threats. Then, voila! He wins with barely a fight.

Instead of falling into the paralyzing fear and silencing trap when he makes intimidating threats, we need to step up the opposition even more in order to make sure that he does not ever get the power to carry out his threats. And also recognize the logistical impossibility of killing all liberals.

[shrike3]

42. I am hardly paralyzed with fear. Besides, it doesn't matter if they can't kill all liberals. They can try.

And people will get hurt. Some may get killed. Some may have their lives destroyed. They can try. And they'll want to try.

I live in a red area. Maybe you do, too; maybe you don't. But I hear what these people think, and quite a few of them, at minimum, want liberals out of the country. That's their most benign wish. More than a few think liberals should die. And they regard anyone who doesn't think as they do as liberal. It's that simple.

We ignore this at our peril. We dismiss this at our peril. It doesn't matter if they can't kill all liberals. They can kill some.

[canuckledragger]

51. That's a lot of denial, deflection and minimization in that post!

[Oneironaut]

32. Unfortunately, Conservatives are a fan of innuendo and speaking ironically.

They'll never quite say, "Trump is going to kill you." Instead, they'll playfully dance around the idea, like in the video. It's so they have plausible deniability and can use gaslighting as a weapon. Basically, they use 4chan shitposting in real life.

[Initech]

6. Their execution fetish is certifiably insane.

[markodochartaigh]

17. If people think that you are being hyperbolic

they should consider the executions rushed through by Trump in his final six months. He did this because he knew that it would enliven and excite his base.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/in-new-podcast-rush-to-kill-documents-6-month-federal-execution-spree-under-president-donald-trumps-administration

[WiVoter]

7. I Got A Video For Him

https://m.

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[duhneece]

21. Yay! An El Paso legend Bobby Fuller

I’ve posted the original video but I love, love this one.

[senseandsensibility]

11. Wonder how many page one stories NYT will do on this?

Or better yet, how does it make Biden look bad?

[surfered]

14. Dehumanizing is the first step and, after all, he says we're human scum.

[Emile]

15. Is this the same guy who paid off a porn star for us?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. That rant is written for maga's median grade level. . . . . nt

[Celerity]

22. the actual video, so all can judge for themselves if the POS meant kill:

I would self-defenestrate if I had listen to that fucker's voice for the rest of my life

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112507295278364326

[PeaceWave]

23. In all seriousness, it IS a little scary that the voter rolls are essentially Trump's naughty and nice list...

This lunatic is openly talking about handing out government jobs ONLY to those who voted for him!

[orangecrush]

24. Yup, all us libs are DOOMED!

OMG, please make it stop before I piss myself.

[WA-03 Democrat]

27. Glad your laughing your ass off

Trump is serious, petty and will exact revenge on all his enemies. If you are a serious member of this board then why are you laughing at political violence?

[orangecrush]

37. Because

Those advocating political violence are living in a delusional world of make believe where they envision their declared target, that being us, just laying down and taking it.

That answer your question?

[WA-03 Democrat]

43. Yes, sure does

I appreciate it. I agree the fight will happen just don’t think us winning is a forgone conclusion.

[orangecrush]

46. Agreed

[WA-03 Democrat]

26. They are serious

Believe them because that is what they will do

[Torchlight]

28. So his emotional appeal is countered with more emotional appeals.

A really substantive system going on.

[jimfields33]

36. Interesting

[Hotler]

29. Arm yourselves my friends. Do so before the election in case the Christian Taliban take power.

They'll lock down guns after they win and you won't be able to get one.

[DemocratInPa]

30. OMG.. This scare crap is getting annoying..

Is Fat Donnie going to show up at people's door and shoot them? Is he going to get the military to do it?

He is going to do shit if he wins..

[Torchlight]

31. Yeah, this and China seems to get everyone's emotions out of whack.

[jimfields33]

35. Lol

[shrike3]

48. History is full of people who thought other people were being hyperbolic.

Just sayin'.

[Torchlight]

49. The converse being true as well.

[shrike3]

50. I'd rather be cautious, which is why I acknowledge the hyperbolic.

Can be dangerous to do otherwise.

[shrike3]

47. His people will do things if he wins.

They already have. What do you think Jan. 6 is about?

[Freethinker65]

33. Will Nikki Haley be autographing the ammo used?

[orangecrush]

38. Yep

She is going to write on Trump's .22 short 🤣

[AllaN01Bear]

40. hem