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aggiesal

(9,308 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 12:58 PM Jun 2024

AOC for the win ...

AOC: Just look at Justice Thomas whose corruption is almost comical. Secret trips to retreats, international trips on super yachts. Here in Congress, we are forbidden from accepting gifts that exceed $50. But Justice Thomas has received $4 million in gifts.


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AOC for the win ... (Original Post) aggiesal Jun 2024 OP
According to the Supreme Court..... KS Toronado Jun 2024 #1
It sure would be nice to have Dems hold the WH, House and Senate and fix some of these loopholes dutch777 Jun 2024 #2
Ah, but the thing is, if we try to make laws about the Supreme Court and their conduct Bettie Jun 2024 #17
Recourse: Ignore them if/when they go truly off the rails (for instance, if they declare foetal personhood on a national Celerity Jun 2024 #19
True, Ma'am: The Court Set Itself Up As A 'Council Of Elders', With A Veto Over Legislature And Executive Alike The Magistrate Jun 2024 #32
One solution would be expanding the court from 9 to 13 justices. calimary Jun 2024 #21
Make it broad-- all federal employees of any branch. And they would risk being impeached if we had the majority. dutch777 Jun 2024 #33
Normally when AOC spanks you, it hurts, but surfered Jun 2024 #3
Looked like Raskin was the proud professor as she spoke on the TV last evening Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #7
And he has a great student malaise Jun 2024 #18
Democrats sound like the adults in Peanuts specials to him nuxvomica Jun 2024 #8
Alito is just another corrupt sob using God as a cover. B.See Jun 2024 #30
SCOTUS justices criminal conduct exposed. oasis Jun 2024 #4
She is the future SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2024 #5
Along with Jared Moskowitz, Jasmine Crockett ... Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #9
I really admire the young Dems--and the older ones! Nt spooky3 Jun 2024 #13
Yep. There is a LOT to admire about most of them Attilatheblond Jun 2024 #16
This Subversive Court is out to replace our democracy with a theocracy / oligarchy. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2024 #6
But the aristocracy! usonian Jun 2024 #10
And as soon as Thomas left the island, the yacht.... Kingofalldems Jun 2024 #11
It's like this, AOC. He's Supreme, you're not. dchill Jun 2024 #12
The Idi Amin of Supreme Court history peppertree Jun 2024 #20
She is an amazing young woman and I admire her greatly. llmart Jun 2024 #14
When she Rebl2 Jun 2024 #23
Republicans fear smart women who can't be intimidated. llmart Jun 2024 #25
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jun 2024 #15
Truth to power. That's AOC! n/t PatrickforB Jun 2024 #22
I don't think Justice Brown should be getting Beyonce tickets either Skittles Jun 2024 #24
Nice to see a member of Congress doing their job - a rarity these days. Love AOC walkingman Jun 2024 #26
K and fucking R Blue Owl Jun 2024 #27
Tell it like it is, AOC! Martin68 Jun 2024 #28
As a school board member, I had to donate a $9.80 AllyCat Jun 2024 #29
KnfknR is right! sarchasm Jun 2024 #31

dutch777

(3,292 posts)
2. It sure would be nice to have Dems hold the WH, House and Senate and fix some of these loopholes
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 01:25 PM
Jun 2024

This is just one. Adding clarity to the Emoluments Clause would be another. Giving teeth to Congressional subpoenas. Ending the filibuster and the list goes on....

Bettie

(16,756 posts)
17. Ah, but the thing is, if we try to make laws about the Supreme Court and their conduct
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:56 PM
Jun 2024

the right wing contingent will use their overriding veto power by declaring them unconstitutional.

And there is no recourse after that, because they are, in their minds, the ultimate rulers of the country.

Celerity

(46,154 posts)
19. Recourse: Ignore them if/when they go truly off the rails (for instance, if they declare foetal personhood on a national
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:13 PM
Jun 2024

basis, which would outlaw most all abortions nationwide). They have no actual physical enforcement measures.

Marbury v Madison's derived power of judical review is not specifically laid out in the US Constitution.


The Case Against Judicial Review

If Democrats don’t bring the Supreme Court to heel, Americans will live under judicial despotism for the foreseeable future.

https://prospect.org/justice/the-case-against-judicial-review/

In just a one-week span in June, the Supreme Court dealt several terrific blows to American freedom and self-government. It overturned a century-old New York law restricting the concealed carry of firearms; it overturned Roe v. Wade, allowing about 26 states to ban abortion, with more to come if Republicans win the congressional midterms; and it sharply limited the ability for the executive branch to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, which could eventually hamstring the administrative apparatus that has governed the United States for well over a century. The Court also recently agreed to hear a case on the “independent state legislature doctrine,” which holds that state legislatures have total power over their electoral systems. If the ruling goes conservatives’ way again, it would allow gerrymandered Republican legislatures to hand the presidency to their own party in 2024, striking another blow against democracy itself.

This disaster is being perpetrated by perhaps the least democratically legitimate Supreme Court in history. Five of the six right-wing justices were appointed by presidents who took office after losing the popular vote. The other, Clarence Thomas, is married to an avowed conservative activist who actively agitated to overturn the 2020 election. In 2016, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell held one seat open for a year, in violation of all precedent and the text of the Constitution, to ensure his preferred replacement. Republicans have had a Court majority since the Nixon administration, even though they have won the presidential popular vote just once since 1989. The inexorable march of tradition and timidity on the part of the government’s other branches has given this pack of conservative apparatchiks what amounts to monarchical powers over the American people. It’s no wonder that their decisions are so terrible—and so ominous for the country’s future.

What is to be done? I propose to attack the problem at the root and abolish judicial review. The Court does not have the sole power to interpret the Constitution, nor the power to strike down any law it choses, and it’s time to say so. Even fairly hard-bitten progressives are often unsettled by this idea. Most Americans learn in high school civics that the Supreme Court gets final say on whether laws are constitutional, and that this is core to the functioning of the constitutional system. Yet this view is incomplete. Judicial review does not appear in the Constitution and is not firmly rooted in American tradition. For roughly the first three-quarters of the 19th century and the middle third of the 20th, those powers were heavily circumscribed by tradition and competition from the other branches of government.



And for good reason: When the Court has exercised sole power to interpret the Constitution, with rare exceptions it has used that power to obliterate Americans’ constitutional rights, uphold white supremacy, and protect abusive corporations from unions and the regulatory state. While challenging the judiciary is commonly associated with Andrew Jackson, the two best presidents in history, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt, had no choice but to directly confront the Court in order to advance justice. If America does not follow their lead, presidential powers will evaporate along with those of Congress and the freedom of the American people.

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The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
32. True, Ma'am: The Court Set Itself Up As A 'Council Of Elders', With A Veto Over Legislature And Executive Alike
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jun 2024

It did take a while for just how wide a field had been opened for exercise of this, but that day has arrived. Now that the American system, designed by gentlemen to be operated by gentlemen, has come into the hand of cads, the sky's the limit for exercise of power seized without warrant in law.

In short, tyranny.

calimary

(83,453 posts)
21. One solution would be expanding the court from 9 to 13 justices.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:58 PM
Jun 2024

That way would help dissolve the blockade of the too-many blockheads on there now.

And ALSO, do away with lifetime appointments, once and for all.

And right away, too!!!

dutch777

(3,292 posts)
33. Make it broad-- all federal employees of any branch. And they would risk being impeached if we had the majority.
Fri Jun 14, 2024, 08:14 AM
Jun 2024

Would look really BAD if they wanted to exempt themselves from ethics and related reporting standards that the whole rest of the government has to adhere to. Admittedly it would have to be well crafted legislation but I think Jamie Raskin amongst others have the skills.

surfered

(1,953 posts)
3. Normally when AOC spanks you, it hurts, but
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 01:32 PM
Jun 2024

Thomas is immune to any moral shame. And Alito wants the country to return to godliness, so getting $4 million in bribes is now Godly. Maybe if Sen Menendez and Rep Cuellar are convicted on bribery charges they should appeal to the Supreme Court using the bribes are Godly defense.

Attilatheblond

(3,699 posts)
7. Looked like Raskin was the proud professor as she spoke on the TV last evening
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:22 PM
Jun 2024

Thinking some of the wise DEM House 'elders' have taken on teaching some of the younger wild cards how to get things done with sane, calm arguments instead of going off like hot heads that are too easy to ignore. It's how the House DEMs ensure the future and they are doing a damned fine job of mentoring.

No better teachers than Pelosi, Raskin, Lieu, Schiff, Hoyer, and many others on our side of the aisle. They are taking some raw talent and honing some pretty sharp tools for our fight to save this nation.

Attilatheblond

(3,699 posts)
9. Along with Jared Moskowitz, Jasmine Crockett ...
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:27 PM
Jun 2024

and MANY others. No matter what state you live in, it's a good idea to support these smart, fighting young DEMS whenever you can afford throwing some coin to a good cause!

Attilatheblond

(3,699 posts)
16. Yep. There is a LOT to admire about most of them
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:56 PM
Jun 2024

And I am seeing great new DEMs in local races in AZ. Goddess knows we need them!

Kingofalldems

(39,052 posts)
11. And as soon as Thomas left the island, the yacht....
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:30 PM
Jun 2024

or wherever he was with these billionaires---they called him the N word.

peppertree

(22,587 posts)
20. The Idi Amin of Supreme Court history
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 03:47 PM
Jun 2024

"I am the one who has got all the money - and the duty of a woman is a house woman!"

llmart

(16,144 posts)
14. She is an amazing young woman and I admire her greatly.
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 02:51 PM
Jun 2024

She is not intimidated by anyone, least of all Slappy Thomas and his hateful wife.

Rebl2

(14,327 posts)
23. When she
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 05:21 PM
Jun 2024

was first elected to Congress, I wasn’t quite sure about her. I have become a fan. She is so intelligent and can make some republicans look like big fools.

Skittles

(157,027 posts)
24. I don't think Justice Brown should be getting Beyonce tickets either
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 06:35 PM
Jun 2024

seriously, WTF

I could not accept such a gift at my job

Blue Owl

(53,772 posts)
27. K and fucking R
Wed Jun 12, 2024, 07:23 PM
Jun 2024

FUCK Clarence Thomas and FUCK Sam Alito -- these two corrupt motherfuckers are rigging the game for the GOP. Always have, always will. Impeach them!!!!

AllyCat

(16,782 posts)
29. As a school board member, I had to donate a $9.80
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 12:45 AM
Jun 2024

Sheet of postage stamps someone gave me as a thank you for a vote. Was unable to return them. Had to go through consent agenda and be approved. I abstained.

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