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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't let the media or the GOP frame this photograph beyond what it really represents:
This is the defining photograph of Trump vs. victims of bullies who happen to have Republican parents with well-stocked gun rooms.
Skittles
(157,259 posts)they literally allowed him to do that - WTF, wouldn't they wonder if there was more than one shooter? WTF!!!
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)dead is disgusting. He had no idea how his supporters were doing at the time he mugged for the camera. He expressed no concern for anyone. Just took a moment to ask about his shoes and strike a pose.
Skittles
(157,259 posts)he doesn't give a DAMN about anyone else
but I don't understand how the SS would allow that, it makes no fucking sense
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)him overall. I agree it make no sense. It's like "here, take another shot!"
Rec
Hubris?
Pisces
(5,776 posts)he is a malignant narcissist who is literally incapable of concern for the safety of others
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)Kinda my point.
Pisces
(5,776 posts)Wow what a callous asshole in the moment. Now after all if said and done if he doesnt acknowledge the deceased and injured you have an argument.
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)regardless. I think he's a callous asshole and that was further demonstrated by his seeking a photo op in the midst of it all. People were still screaming and panicking at the time. Being politically advised to say a few words about the dead after the fact, isn't very revealing.
That said, he's reportedly out golfing today.
Pisces
(5,776 posts)Nothing rattles me. Hes totally playing into his bases strongman, authoritarian love affair.
58Sunliner
(4,935 posts)The idiot could barely react in the moment to being shot at.
call me No One.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,742 posts)yes. They have an argument.
Piece of shit thinks of NO ONE but himself.
58Sunliner
(4,935 posts)A normal person with empathy would think of the others and not fist pump over a dead body.
kelly1mm
(5,020 posts)else was shot at the time. Say what you will about President Trump, his natural political instincts are uncanny.
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)but ok.
wnylib
(23,775 posts)with his head blown off and blood everywhere. Trump could not have missed noticing that.
democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)I don't see how he could have possibly known that moments after he was shot and the Secret Service was scrambling to get him off stage.
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)Did he understand that there was a mass shooting into a crowd of his supporters? Why would anyone think about his image at a time like that?
Skittles
(157,259 posts)are you seriously defending that POS? Shots fired around ANY CROWD may mean casualties
democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)I think he's a total piece of garbage human being and yesterday doesn't change that. But I always try to be fair to everyone, and I wouldn't judge anyone for things they say in the seconds or minutes after being shot at. Even far more empathetic people might not think to ask about other casualties moments after being nicked by a bullet and shoved to the ground. There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for. Picking apart what he said or did or didn't say or do in the moments after he was shot just sounds petty and ridiculous.
If in the coming days and weeks he talks only about what happened to him and doesn't mention the other victims that's another story.
mzmolly
(51,434 posts)That's my issue. This is not the behavior of a compassionate human being.
Skittles
(157,259 posts)bottom line is, if the repuke party had their way AR15's would be issued to every household - THIS IS ON THEM
democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)And one that we should make, although maybe not immediately for strategic reasons. Once the dust settles, it's totally reasonable to criticize Trump's stance on guns, his history of encouraging violence, etc. But criticizing him for not immediately asking about other casualties in the heat of the moment makes us sound ridiculous.
only about himself. Sickening POS he is.
If he was anywhere else his ass would be locked up!!!
wnylib
(23,775 posts)is not heroic. It shows ego over concern for others. Me, me, me.
We should call it the "Look at me" photo. Never mind that other guy who died or the people who were injured. *I* am ok and that's all that matters.
Meantime, reports are coming in that the man who died was the real hero of the day. He died because he shielded his family when he heard the shots.
live love laugh
(14,060 posts)FBaggins
(27,387 posts)Whether he wins or loses in November - thats the image that will be in the history books decades down the line. Could be a Pulitzer
Skittles
(157,259 posts)TwilightZone
(27,082 posts)The NY Times photographer who appears to have captured the bullet in flight is also probably looking at a Pulitzer.
Sympthsical
(9,906 posts)Doug Mills won his first in 1993 for his coverage of Clinton's first campaign, and again during the Lewinsky scandal.
It's a Dougaissance.
usonian
(12,597 posts)History is written by the victors ... Churchill
The dead know only one thing: that it is better to be alive ... Kubrick/Full Metal Jacket
Maybe AI will change that.
Ferryboat
(991 posts)Think of the optics. Conmans wet dream?
Xavier Breath
(4,681 posts)with a copy of that blown up to fill the stage and stretched to the rafters. Untold numbers of MAGAts are no doubt jerking off to that image as we speak.
live love laugh
(14,060 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,231 posts)There was no flag behind him in the bleachers. Flags were to the left of the bleachers. Photo does not have bleachers or people in the background.
TwilightZone
(27,082 posts)You can see the edge of it and the crane in the first pic here:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/13/us/trump-rally-shooting-maps-photos.html
The crane is visible in photos from other sources.
Seriously, people. This conspiracy nonsense has just gotten silly. We look ridiculous when we fall for this stuff.
LiberalFighter
(53,231 posts)Those other sources are using the same photo
FBaggins
(27,387 posts)He puts up those crane-hung flags at almost all of his outdoor events
Ligyron
(7,829 posts)There's enough clear plastic laying there to kill hundreds of poor turtles thinking it's a jellyfish.
What a bunch of slobs, probably never recycle either.
TwilightZone
(27,082 posts)Please stop spreading misinformation.
soandso
(583 posts)Pisces
(5,776 posts)mzmolly
(51,434 posts)to me.
democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)I hate to say it, but this photo makes the fact that Biden came across as old and weak even worse. Obviously, I'd much rather have a president who's compassionate and human, old or not, but the contrast isn't good for us.
Skittles
(157,259 posts)FUCK HIM
DoBW
(1,772 posts)Iwo Jima wannabe. but while we're here, how much? frame is extra
ucrdem
(15,700 posts)then puts his fist up and says "fight, fight, fight." This per France24 live report. But it accords with the NYT video. So he made sure to capitalize on the publicity before he was even back on his feet. I think that's why the agents are grinning in the Iwo Jima tableau.
FakeNoose
(35,018 posts)... he took advantage of it. That doesn't make Chump a warrior, or a hero. It just makes him an asshole.
The Secret Service guys should have knocked him down and covered him.
Scrivener7
(52,193 posts)Miami Blue
(146 posts)Dick-Tator Trump aka Don Van Gogh is a coward just like all bullies.
Nonetheless, he raised his fist to look obstreperous but in reality, he was shitting his underwear.
Remember that Dick-Tator Trump is an actor
and a member of the Screen Actors Guild aka
SAG.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-takes-big-pension-from-sag-aftra-despite-quitting-after-january-6-riot
Bitbit
(122 posts)Ive looked at numerous pics of this pose and I dont see even a smudge of blood on the right hand or shirt cuff. It appeared he grabbed his ear open handed as he sank down. There should be at least a smudge or stain on that hand. There is not.
Edit to correct grammar
Mossfern
(2,957 posts)would be more concerned about what was happening and the welfare of the people in the crowd than a good photo op. (and his shoes) He's ruthless.
doc03
(36,330 posts)They will build trump up like he was Harrison Ford saving Air Force 1.
Baitball Blogger
(47,548 posts)Took us more than two centuries to figure out the false narrative behind Thanksgiving and even Columbus discovering America. I have every bit of confidence that Americans will figure out the truth behind the Bloody Trump photo much sooner.
JI7
(90,147 posts)niyad
(118,362 posts)to remember that from yesterday.