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The "Pass the Torch" idiots really didn't think this through, did they? I find it hard to believe they were so naive.
Link to tweet
House
@SpeakerJohnson
tells
@jaketapper
Dems will face lawsuits if they want to replace Biden as their nominee.
I think they've got legal hurdles in some of these states and it will be litigated, I would expect, on the ground there. Johnson says. Theyve got a real problem.
Ocelot II
(121,119 posts)as a legal matter how the GOP has standing to litigate who's on the Democratic ticket?
mcar
(43,541 posts)lame54
(36,953 posts)Ocelot II
(121,119 posts)Sauce for the gander and all that.
jimfields33
(19,137 posts)For trump as winner. Now if republicans decided to change the ticket, damn right democratic supporters would sue and rightfully so.
Ms. Toad
(35,541 posts)It is yet another scare tactic to try to box Democrats into a corner. (Litigation regarding a change after the deadlines for a major party to send it's nominee to the SOS in each state is a different matter. Prior to the deadline, it is a party matter.
Demsrule86
(71,029 posts)getagrip_already
(17,458 posts)After specific dates, it is difficult to change candidates who were certified winners in primaries.
By depledging delegates, the dnc could be running afoul of state code. And even if they arent, the rnc will claim they are and state courts might very well agree with them.
Then it could get to scotus. And we know what they will do.
GoCubsGo
(33,076 posts)This is just an attempt to exploit the "replace Biden" nonsense. They know he's not going anywhere, and they're hoping wavering Democrats and undecideds will see their lawsuit threats as "The Republicans want this guy in, because they know he's beatable. So, I'm just going to stay home and not bother voting." It's all moot, since Biden isn't going anywhere, anyway.
Amishman
(5,820 posts)The Pubs won't be the litigating party, they'll just supply the lawyers and money, standard lawfare procedure.
usedtobedemgurl
(1,433 posts)I believe what is being referred to is what I habe stated here several.times: if we replace Biden, we lose. They have lawyers in place for swing states and have stated if Joe drops out, they will sue to keep other names off the ballot. If I recall, it has something to do with dates within each state which you have to enter a name on the ballot by.
I have no doubt they are behind a lot if this remove Biden nonsense. If they can get Joe off the ballot, they will make sure no demand nominee is on the ballot in several states, putting us at a disadvantage.
Emile
(30,083 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(12,608 posts)If they know he will beat them?
Emile
(30,083 posts)I don't.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,608 posts)If they're sure Joe will win, why are they suing to keep him ON the ballot?
Demsrule86
(71,029 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(12,608 posts)Read the OP - they WANT to run against Biden, and will sue if people try to remove him.
I don't see how they have standing, but they aren't trying to remove Biden.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,612 posts)Are they going to find a disgruntled Biden voter to sue?
That will be fun.
All it will reveal is that, unlike the general election, the selection of party nominees is an internal party matter, not a legal/constitutional one.
mcar
(43,541 posts)The suits will result in delay and chaos - neither of which will help us.
LisaL
(46,649 posts)I don't think they expect to win these suits, but they want to create delay and chaos, and bash democrats some more while they are suing.
mcar
(43,541 posts)Bayard
(24,145 posts)Does the election get paused until it makes it to the Supremes? Gee....I wonder what they would decide?
Trekologer
(1,062 posts)That's a ridiculous prospect.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,612 posts)Demsrule86
(71,029 posts)the clock and of course the courts are not in our favor right now.
Lovie777
(15,076 posts)Counter the cult.
bluestarone
(18,294 posts)They are so EVIL.
ismnotwasm
(42,473 posts)I dont understand this shit, and Im very angry about it.
Demsrule86
(71,029 posts)One poster told me that voters would vote for whoever the money folks nominate to keep Trump out...that is not true. This would tear our party to pieces. We would lose a fair number of voters.
Mountainguy
(994 posts)The Democratic Party has it's own rules on how it nominates and how delegates are allowed to vote, If the delegate winner were to decline the nomination then the delegates, by rule, can choose the nominee. There's nothing Republicans can do about it.
Demsrule86
(71,029 posts)Mountainguy
(994 posts)Which are printing ballots with the Candidates they are given.
themaguffin
(4,200 posts)mzmolly
(51,668 posts)ready to assist the GQP.
mcar
(43,541 posts)themaguffin
(4,200 posts)Sunsky
(1,876 posts)That's their game plan and we're falling for it. SCOTUS will find ways to reverse themselves. They'll give us reasons states can keep such persons off the ballot, unlike the insurrectionist who they allowed to remain on the ballot.
alarimer
(16,598 posts)They are not members of the Democratic Party.
But sowing chaos is what they do best, I suppose.
LonePirate
(13,905 posts)Lovie777
(15,076 posts)President Biden beat shithole in 2020.
Turbineguy
(38,413 posts)in with the rest.
Takket
(22,583 posts)the gop does not pick our nominee. neither does the court
Demsrule86
(71,029 posts)Bristlecone
(10,494 posts)Renew Deal
(82,937 posts)Azathoth
(4,677 posts)on the ticket.
Yeah, that definitely proves the "pass the torch" people are so dumb and stupid.
mcar
(43,541 posts)And the pass the torch people are idiots who didnt see that coming.
JohnSJ
(96,657 posts)the Democratic candidate, an honorable an ethical man, who did NOT try to overthrow the US government, rape women, steal classified documents, or have a questionable relationship with Jeffrey epstein.
Go take you pseudo christian theocracy, and stick up where the sun don't shine, you hypocritical jackass.
Nixie
(17,380 posts)the long run. They've played the long game and have been loading the courts for years while Democrats give their power away over purity contests. Of course they will sue, hoping to get lucky like trumps Florida judge.
Delay and creating chaos gives them more opportunity to repeat the grievance lies. Of course they will sue.
Hillary and Al Gore sure look good right about now. Look what Bush and Trump got you.
Polybius
(18,007 posts)The convention didn't even happen yet. It's in August, that's when we officially nominate Biden. Just like Trump wasn't officially nominated until a few days ago at his convention.
Now, if this was September or October it might be different.
EndlessWire
(7,265 posts)I think the virtual vote is on August 1st.
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)of government. I can't believe these idiots didn't think through all the ramifications of forcing Biden off the ticket. Our State parties have to be worried about the impact on down ballot races. It's like the Dems are working at losing the election.
EndlessWire
(7,265 posts)This whole thread is, "Don't tell me what to do! I'll kick Biden off if I want to!" Whereas, not everyone wants to kick him off in any respect. See how easily manipulated we all are. It's a good discussion, learning the process, the legalities, but it's moot.