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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:11 PM Jan 2012

Ron Paul Was Implicated In Failed White Supremacist Island Invasion

Ron Paul Was Implicated In Failed White Supremacist Island Invasion

Written by Casey Gane-McCalla, Lead Blogger

In 1981, a lawyer tried to subpoena Ron Paul to testify in the trial of Don Black, a Grand Wizard for the Ku Klux Klan who would later go on to found the white supremacist, neo-Nazi website, Stormfront. Black was charged along with two other Klansmen with planning to violently overthrow the small Caribbean country of Dominica in what they called “Operation Red Dog.” While a judge refused to subpoena Paul, Don Black would come back to haunt him many years later.

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A judge refused to subpoena Paul and Connally despite the fact that Perdue had claimed that both of them were aware of the plot. Don Black’s friend and fellow KKK Grand Wizard, David Duke was called to testify before a grand jury but claimed that he would take the Fifth Amendment and never testified. While Duke was never charged with a crime, several books points to Duke as the organizer who connected Perdue to the other mercenary Klansmen and the people who funded their endeavor. (1 2 3) Everyone else implicated by Perdue was charged with the plot...Michael Perdue, Don Black and seven other Klansmen would be sentenced to only 3 years in prison.

Ron Paul has never made a statement denying knowledge of the plot despite the fact that he was implicated by Perdue and almost subpoenaed. Two of the people involved in the plot, Don Black and David Duke have gone on to become two of the most prominent white supremacists of the modern era, and also two of Paul’s most controversial supporters.

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Given the scrutiny given to presidential candidates, shouldn’t Paul’s connection to an attempted violent invasion of a small island by white supremacists be re-investigated. If the media investigates every accusation of affairs or sexual harassment for Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich, shouldn’t they investigate accusations that Paul knew about a white supremacist plot to violently overthrow the government of a small Black island, especially with Paul’s other connections to white supremacists?

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-paul-was-implicated-in-attempted-white-supremacist-island-invasion/
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Ron Paul Was Implicated In Failed White Supremacist Island Invasion (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Hmm! hobbit709 Jan 2012 #1
Kick, Although I don't think CNN's John King is going to ask this question anytime soon. FSogol Jan 2012 #2
It's ProSense Jan 2012 #8
holy crap.... n/t negativenihil Jan 2012 #3
You can say that again. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #18
Commandante Ron Paul! Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #4
This guy gets weirder and fucking weirder. It's an embarrassment to the U.S. that he could even hold FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #5
The ProSense Jan 2012 #6
it's ok to stage coups as long as the US government isn't doing it! renegade000 Jan 2012 #7
Fits ProSense Jan 2012 #9
Total bullshit in a good cause is still total bullshit cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #10
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #12
Don't even try. You overstepped, now pay the price. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #14
What? ProSense Jan 2012 #15
Paul! Paul! Paul! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #11
K & R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #13
Interesting for the White Supremacists' crazy attempt treestar Jan 2012 #16
This ProSense Jan 2012 #17
Ron Paul is done anyway underpants Jan 2012 #19
Anything ProSense Jan 2012 #20

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
4. Commandante Ron Paul!
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:22 PM
Jan 2012

Hey, c'mon, that was back in Ron's youthful years...a mere 45. He was only looking for a lab to try out his libertarian ideas.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
5. This guy gets weirder and fucking weirder. It's an embarrassment to the U.S. that he could even hold
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:26 PM
Jan 2012

Public office.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. The
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jan 2012

apple didn't fall far from the tree:

Sen. Rand Paul: Civil Rights Act Was Overreach Because "I Can't Have A Cigar Bar Anymore"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002144546

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
10. Total bullshit in a good cause is still total bullshit
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jan 2012

Are you now vouching for Michael Perdue? Goodness.

Ron Paul has been endorsed by many white supremicists. He has ties to many white supremacists. He has refused to return contributions from white supremicists. And if you say he's a white supremacist there's certainly a good case to be made. Go for it.

But this OP is total bullshit.

Have you reached the point where the word of Michael Perdue is now good if it's conventient to your argument? Michael Perdue?

Ron Paul is a self-smearing commodity. He is an odious nut. He should be easy to dismiss on facts without resorting to the sort of RW mentality of total fraud. (Amusingly, the article in the OP was posted on Free Republic before it was posted here. All I did was google and there was Free Republic and this old Times article.)

To sink to this level of smear is beneath the diginty of your readers. Evil in a good cause remains evil.

JUDGE DENIES CONNALLY SUBPOENA IN TRIAL OF 3 ALLEGED MERCENARIES
Published: June 14, 1981
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New Orleans, June 13 (UPI) - The Federal authorities said today that John Connally, former Governor of Texas, and Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, had no connection with a plot to overthrow the government of a Caribbean island, despite a lawyer's request that they be subpoenaed for the Federal District Court trial of three alleged mercenaries.

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/us/judge-denies-connally-subpoena-in-trial-of-3-alleged-mercenaries.html

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. Hmmm?
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012
Total bullshit in a good cause is still total bullshit

Are you now vouching for Michael Perdue? Goodness.

Ron Paul has been endorsed by many white supremicists. He has ties to many white supremacists. He has refused to return contributions from white supremicists. And if you say he's a white supremacist there's certainly a good case to be made.

But this OP is total bullshit.

Try another defense.

Ron Paul ‘Reluctantly’ Accepts White Supremacist Support
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100295810


As for the article you cited, it's linked to in the OP, which states in the very first paragraph:

...While a judge refused to subpoena Paul, Don Black would come back to haunt him many years later.

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A judge refused to subpoena Paul and Connally despite the fact that Perdue had claimed that both of them were aware of the plot.





cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
14. Don't even try. You overstepped, now pay the price.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jan 2012

Is it your contention that Governor Connally was, in fact, involved in this plot? (Paul and Connally are inseperable in this context.)

Do you have any support of that beyond the word of a white supremacist who actually did plot to overthrow an island?

This belongs in "creative speculation." It is intellectual nihilism.

I have never seen a public official with so much baggage, so much clear evidence of unfittness and delusion as Ron Paul. The goods on Paul are almost INFINITE. So why would you promote something this comical?

Y'know, it has been interesting watching the endless "smear the hippies by pretending they agree with Ron Paul about everything" campaign, but this is beyond the pale.

So I will in future be unable to see the next phase of the campaign, but will probably live longer for having missed it. I bid you adieu, prosense.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
15. What?
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jan 2012

"Don't even try. You overstepped, now pay the price."

Do you actually believe trying that holier-than-thou nonsense works?

Is it your contention that Governor Connally was, in fact, involved in this plot? (Paul and Connally are inseperable in this context.)

Do you have any support of that beyond the word of a white supremacist who actually did plot to overthrow an island?

This belongs in "creative speculation." It is intellectual nihilism.

I have never seen a public official with so much baggage, so much clear evidence of unfittness and delusion as Ron Paul. The goods on Paul are almost INFINITE. So why would you promote something this comical?


Support for what: That Paul was implicated, though not subpoenaed, as the article states? Or that he and Black have longstanding ties?

Ron Paul with Stormfront’s Don Black
http://www.streetwisepundit.com/ron-paul-with-stormfronts-don-black.html

It's hilarious to watch people connect the dots with all the other candidates, but somehow jump to Paul's defense in the face of glaring racist statements and ties.



treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. Interesting for the White Supremacists' crazy attempt
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 05:46 PM
Jan 2012

to take over a small island nation.

Doesn't sound like Paul was involved.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. This
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:34 PM
Jan 2012

is what getting a pass looks like.

How does someone run for President more than once, who is given a national platform, escape scrutiny?

Well, better late than never.





underpants

(182,730 posts)
19. Ron Paul is done anyway
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 09:18 PM
Jan 2012

interesting story but is likely that he threw out a Congressman's name to deflect investigations towards him and other names that would raise suspicion.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. Anything
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jan 2012

"Ron Paul is done anyway interesting story but is likely that he threw out a Congressman's name to deflect investigations towards him and other names that would raise suspicion."

...is possible, but he still has ties to Black, which is the point of the piece.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=193328

Ron Paul ‘Reluctantly’ Accepts White Supremacist Support
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100295810

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