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malaise

(268,680 posts)
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:24 PM Jan 2012

OMFG-Undercover police had children with activists

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/20/undercover-police-children-activists
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Two undercover police officers secretly fathered children with political campaigners they had been sent to spy on and later disappeared completely from the lives of their offspring, the Guardian can reveal.

In both cases, the children have grown up not knowing that their biological fathers – whom they have not seen in decades – were police officers who had adopted fake identities to infiltrate activist groups. Both men have concealed their true identities from the children's mothers for many years.

One of the spies was Bob Lambert, who has already admitted that he tricked a second woman into having a long-term relationship with him, as part of an intricate attempt to bolster his credibility as a committed campaigner.

The second police spy followed the progress of his child and the child's mother by reading confidential police reports which tracked the mother's political activities and life.

The disclosures are likely to intensify the controversy over the long-running police operation to infiltrate and sabotage protest groups.
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OMFG-Undercover police had children with activists (Original Post) malaise Jan 2012 OP
Your Tax Dollars At Work! Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #1
I believe this happened in the UK... ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #4
Your Stamp Act duties at work... Bruce Wayne Jan 2012 #9
LOL! pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #13
If it happened in the UK it happened here, too. Zalatix Jan 2012 #12
Good point. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #16
Parasites stealing the taxpayers dollars. Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #2
This is a very serious human rights violation. Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #3
That's about as low as you can sink. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #5
The Stasi did something simliar during the Cold War RZM Jan 2012 #6
It's how the game is played. Octafish Jan 2012 #7
That's the sad truth malaise Jan 2012 #15
You apparently have 4 words..... jeff47 Jan 2012 #8
Psychopathia Incorporated. nt valerief Jan 2012 #10
Oh, dear. Where's my mother ship? Zalatix Jan 2012 #11
I'm with you. Beam me up, Scotty--there's no intelligent life here. Louisiana1976 Jan 2012 #17
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2012 #14
How the hell is this not rape? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #18

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
9. Your Stamp Act duties at work...
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jan 2012

[font face="Baskerville Old Face" size="4"]By Rum, I'll be d_______d if I'll pay one Farthing for Quartering those ne'er-do-well Lobsterbacks in my own Barne![/font]

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. Good point.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 09:37 PM
Jan 2012

If it had been here, those dollars would have gone into outfitting million dollar SWAT teams to kick down doors and drag cancer grannies off to prison for smoking pot.

But, yeah, after I posted that I noticed the .uk thing. My bad.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
6. The Stasi did something simliar during the Cold War
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 06:49 PM
Jan 2012

Traditionally, sex had been often used in espionage through 'honey traps,' which was the practice of using attractive women to sleep with a target in the hope that he would reveal sensitive information to her.

But the East German secret police (Stasi) came to the conclusion that you could engage in longer-term operations by planting male moles who would seduce and then enter into long-term relationships with women who worked in fields of interest to the Stasi. This was less likely to produce bombshell finds (since relatively few women occupied high positions in government and intelligence during the Cold War), but it was more likely to produce a steady stream of less sensitive information over a much longer period of time. One problem they found was that after years of life like that, the Stasi plants often developed genuine feelings for their partners and were reluctant to betray or use them.

It's interesting what this says about gender roles and how intelligence agencies perceived them. When tricking a man, they used sex. When tricking a woman, they used love and commitment.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. It's how the game is played.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 07:07 PM
Jan 2012

Real pros really would walk over their own mothers.

If that's how they treat their children, think what they would do to someone to whom they are not related?

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
11. Oh, dear. Where's my mother ship?
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 09:00 PM
Jan 2012

Get me off this planet, now. This world is just too sick and I lost my cell phone to call for my ride back to Planet Sanity...

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