Need some DU help debunking a Rethug e-mail

[COLGATE4]

Got this from a Rethug relative and need some DU help in debunking it.

"MEDICARE PREMIUM INCREASE
> If you aren't at this point in your life think about your
> parents or grandparents that probably are there.
> SNEAKY LITTLE BUGGER, ISN\'T HE ?
> Look clearly at the 2014 rate compared to the 2013 rate.
> For those of you who are on Medicare, read the following.
> It's short, but important and you probably haven't heard
> about it in the Mainstream News:
>
> "The per person Medicare Insurance Premium will increase
> from the present Monthly Fee of
>
> $96.40, rising to:
>
> $104.20 in 2012
>
> $120.20 in 2013
>
> And
>
> $247.00 in 2014."
>
> These are Provisions incorporated in the Obamacare
> Legislation, purposely delayed so as not to confuse the
> 2012 Re-Election Campaigns. Send this to all Seniors that
> you know, so they will know who's throwing them under the
> bus."
>

[SheilaT]

1. Go to snopes.com

and look for Medicare premium increase.

Always, always, always, check snopes whenever you get such garbage. A good 99% of the time it's wrong.

[teach1st]

2. And snopes.com says "False"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/medicare.asp

[phylny]

21. My father-in-law used to send me crap like this all the time

(along with about 30 other people).

I would respond back with the snopes link showing it was false, and he'd email back, "I don't have time to check everything."

Sure, he doesn't have "time" to check the right wing crap.

His e-mails now go immediately into my e-mail trash bin.

[arcane1]

3. Suddenly they love their socialized medicine

Snopes says it's false:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/medicare.asp

[maddezmom]

4. sounds familar

The Truth:
This eRumor gets a little complex. There were increases in Medicare premiums announced in 2010. There were no Cost of Living increases for Social Security recipients in 2010 or 2011. Congressional representatives have not received pay raises since 2009 and in 2010 actually voted to stop their annual automatic cost of living increases.
more:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/medicare-premiums.htm

We seniors get the shaft and Congress gets the gold mine. No surprise really!!!

Your Medicare Increase

For those of you who are on Medicare, read below. It is about the monthly amount of money you are going to pay in Medicare premiums in 2011, 2012 and the huge increase you will pay in 2013, thanks to the 2011 Congress.


Congress will not allow an increase in the social security COLA (cost of living adjustment); however, the per person monthly Medicare insurance premium will be increased from the 2009 premium of $96.40 to $104.20 in 2012, $120.20 for the year 2013 AND increases to a wonderful $247.00 in 2014.


Congress also gave themselves a $3,000 a month Cost of Living Adjustment!


Send this to all seniors that you know.


So they will know who's throwing them under the bus.


REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER 2012

[Zalatix]

5. No social security COLA adjustment? Ummmmmmmmmmmm

I'm not sure about Social Security in general, but I know people who are on Social Security Disability and I know their benefits went up in January.

[tammywammy]

8. SS COLA for 2012

Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for more than 60 million Americans will increase 3.6 percent in 2012.
http://www.ssa.gov/cola/

[Zalatix]

11. I admit that's a pretty paltry increase. What to do, though?

Complain about it being only 3.6% or be happy it's even that much?

[SheilaT]

23. I got my first raise in two years

a couple of months ago, and it was 3%. Most people have gotten low or no raises in recent years, so SS recipients are better off than many working people in that respect.

[MineralMan]

6. That's old stuff, and inaccurate.

In point of fact, my Medicare Part B premium went down from $109 to $99 per month for 2012. My monthly SS payment went up $45 per month. This nonsense you posted was written before the actual rates were set. You can find the actual information you need to debunk this on the SSA site, the official site of the Social Security Administration: www.ssa.gov

[hobbit709]

7. Why waste your time trying to teach a pig to sing?

People that pass crap like this on aren't swayed by the facts.

[COLGATE4]

9. You know, you're probably right

but since he's a close cousin, I hold out some hope - maybe.

[handmade34]

13. it never hurts to pass on the truth

it just may not be worth the energy expended for a drawn out argument... I never give up on telling the truth!

have hope!

[Curmudgeoness]

14. I never give up on telling the truth either!

And to make my point have more power, I always hit "reply all" so that my truth will go to every person who got the false information. So what if I can't sway the sender---which may or may not be true (usually not true). I can at least have a chance to get through to someone.

The down side to this is that there are a few senders who now send these emails just to me, and probably send the mass mail out separately. Damn, there is always a way to thwart the truth getting out!

[safeinOhio]

15. I too hit "reply all" and

include a Snopes debunking. Every time I do that the person takes me off the list.

[we can do it]

17. Its Fun To Piss of A Bunch of Them At Once

I often get a "who are you ?" email from one on the huge list....and did you ever notice they usually never delete the ever growing list of idiots they send the poop out too?

[Ohio Dem]

20. I always include a line like

"If the truth is on their side, why do they lie so much?"

[tabasco]

10. Yeah, sure you do.

Uh-huh.

[Zalatix]

12. Why take that attitude?

[Curmudgeoness]

16. Why is it that any time a DUer wants to get intelligent information

to use to shut these idiots up, they are accused of some nefarious reasons?

We all get these emails, we have all seen them, and no one here is going to buy into it....but sometimes people need the facts to shoot them down. I see no problem with it.

[we can do it]

18. I KNow, or Someone Just Tells Them To "Google It" Which Usually Results In the Same Shitty Email

[Motown_Johnny]

19. after proving it is a false claim push for increased funding,

for things like medicare, through increased taxes on the rich

[RebelOne]

22. Totally inaccurate.

My 2012 Medicare premium payment went from $110 to $99, and my Social Security went from $1298 t0 $1360.