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Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:24 PM Jan 2012

Small Rant: WHO THE FREAK STARTED THE TERM "FAMILY VALUES"?

I swear I hear EVERYONE using that term especially the GOP/Fundies I live around and it is really pissing me off the more I hear it.


Who created "Family Values". Do we blame the "50's Family" with Mom and Dad and 2.5 children? You know the family where that I honestly don't think EVER exsisted save for Hollywood movies and TV shows.


Does it mean that because my mother was divorce and raising me and my sister on her own that I don't have any Family Values? Because I wasn't reared right?

Why is it shameful and "Crazy" for me to say "Your family Values" may not be my family values. The old biddies at my work place who are these GOP/Fundies actually looked at me like I was going a second head because I said that.

And more importantly should I be forced to take up YOUR FAMILY VALUES or should I force my FAMILY VALUES on you? NO!

Why should a politicial party have a thumb hold into pushing these ideas into the psyche of American Culture?

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PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
4. In 1996 Newt distributed a list of words to Republican lawmakers to be used
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jan 2012

to describe Republicans and another list to describe Democrats.


They were to use words like family, children, empower, freedom, vision prosperity, liberty to describe Republicans

and words like decay, taxes, welfare, waste, steal, corrupt, hypocrisy to describe Democrats.

The full list is here:


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
10. Bingo!1 Yes, QUAYLE/ "Murphy Brown" plus the DOLE campaign, Roger STONE then Dick MORRIS
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jan 2012

Wiki cites the origin as the QUAYLE speech. But I remember that it was a main hook for the DOLE campaign, which was sideswiped when Rethug hitman Roger STONE was caught with a personal ad in a Swingers' magazine, then CLINTON got his own thing when Dick MORRIS was, um, exposed in a toe-sucking episode with a prostitute.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_values
[font size=5]Family Values [/font]
The use of family values as a political term became widespread after a 1992 speech by Vice President Dan Quayle that attributed the Los Angeles riots to a breakdown of family values. Quayle specifically blamed the violence in L.A. as stemming from a decay of moral values and family structure in American society. In an aside, he cited the fictional title character in the television program Murphy Brown as an example of how popular culture contributes to this "poverty of values", saying: "t doesn't help matters when primetime TV has Murphy Brown—a character who supposedly epitomizes today's intelligent, highly paid, professional woman—mocking the importance of fathers, by bearing a child alone, and calling it just another 'lifestyle choice'". Quayle drew a firestorm of criticism from feminist and liberal organizations, and was widely ridiculed by late-night talk show hosts for saying this. In an interview years after the incident, Quayle said it was an off-hand remark and that he had no idea it would ignite such controversy, nor had he intended for it to. The show's star Candice Bergen herself said in an interview after the show was cancelled that she agreed with him.[37] The "Murphy Brown speech"[38] and the resulting media coverage damaged the Republican ticket in the 1992 presidential election and became one of the most memorable incidents of the 1992 campaign. Long after the outcry had ended, the comment continued to have an effect on U.S. politics. Stephanie Coontz, a professor of family history and the author of several books[39] and essays[40] about the history of marriage, says that this brief remark by Quayle about Murphy Brown "kicked off more than a decade of outcries against the 'collapse of the family'".[41]




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone
In 1996, Stone resigned from a post as a volunteer spokesman in Robert Dole's campaign for president after The National Enquirer wrote that Stone had placed ads and pictures in racy swingers publications and a website seeking sexual partners for himself and his second wife, Nydia. While he does enjoy frequenting "Miami Velvet," a swingers club in Miami, Stone initially denied the report.[8][9] On the Good Morning America program he said: "An exhaustive investigation now indicates that a domestic employee who I discharged for substance abuse on the second time that we learned that he had a drug problem is the perpetrator who had access to my home, access to my computer, access to my password, access to my postage meter, access to my post-office box key."[8] In a 2008 interview with The New Yorker Stone admitted that the ads were authentic.[23]




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris
Scandal
On August 29, 1996, Morris resigned from the Clinton campaign after tabloid reports stated that he had been involved with a female prostitute, Sherry Rowlands, as reported by the Washington Post. A New York tabloid newspaper, the Star, had obtained and published a set of photographs allegedly of Morris and the woman on a Washington, D.C., hotel balcony. News of the impending publication broke during the third day of the 1996 Democratic Convention. The Electronic Telegraph reported unverified claims that in order to impress the woman, S. Rowlands, Morris invited her to listen in on his conversations with President Clinton.[9][10][11] It was also alleged he had an illegitimate child from an affair with a Texas woman.[12]

Morris resigned on the same day that Bill Clinton spoke and accepted the nomination at the Democratic National Convention. In his resignation statement, he said that "while I served I sought to avoid the limelight because I did not want to become the message. Now, I resign so I will not become the issue."[13] In his response, President Clinton praised Morris as a "friend", and thanked him for his years of service. Privately, several of Clinton's aides were furious that in his resignation statement Morris credited himself with helping the President "come back from being buried in a landslide" and that Morris ended by comparing himself to Robert Kennedy.[14]

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Quantess

(27,630 posts)
7. My parents were married and stayed married but
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:47 PM
Jan 2012

their idea of "family values" were nothing like what these self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrites came up with. I'm thankful for that.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
9. What bothers me is how Republicans talk about how important "family values" are,
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jan 2012

but they conveniently ignore them if it's to their advantage -- John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, David Vitter are just some of the names that popped into my head. Tonight's winner, Newt Gingrich, has the family values of an alley cat.

Here's a good list that demonstrates republican family values:

http://www.correntewire.com/refresh_your_memory_the_gop_has_always_been_the_party_of_perverts

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
12. Earliest citation in the OED: 1916
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jan 2012

1916 J. H. Tufts in Internat. Jrnl. Ethics 26 228 For the majority (of women) I believe that greater happiness, as well as fuller development, lies rather in magnifying family values and freeing them from the survivals of subordination, of unscientific and ill-organized methods, which belong to former days.

1928 Internat. Jrnl. Ethics 38 347 Such disintegration of the large-family system does not mean the destruction of the old family values.

1966 A. M. Greeley & P. H. Rossi Educ. Catholic Amer. iii. 69 Marriage and family values do show some relationship with Catholic education.

1993 New Republic 16 Aug. 13/2 Bauer and Buchanan view ‘family values’ in the Reaganite way: as a chance to assert themselves as the moral guardians of the past, a world of two-parent families and heterosexuality.

And the reference to Reagan in that last citation does show that Reagan and the Republicans of his day were using it, eg from 1980:

Nation: On Traditional Family Values

"Anothing issue," said Congressman Henry Hyde in Detroit last week, dismissing Senator Charles Percy's outrage over the Republican platform plank that urges the appointment of judges "who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of human life." To the approving cheers and laughter of the Illinois delegation, Hyde wondered: "Who could be against traditional family values?"

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922066,00.html
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