please...stop calling it "health care reform" it was never that

[SwampG8r]

it was health insurance reform
the law does nothing to change the working attitudes of the millions of dedicated health professionals who will attend you.
nothing in the law orders a medical person to do or stop doing any procedure they would now do.
it is an insult to those working in health care to say they were the ones needing "reform".
every thing i know from my experience with the health care industry (my wife was a nurse for 8 years and then a nurse midwife since 1996 she has been a health dept nurse in 3 states and operated her own womens health clinic)shows me that it is the insurance companies that needed to have an attitude adjustment

[phasma ex machina]

1. Connecticut's insurance oligarchy got some props from their boy Lieberman.

[SwampG8r]

2. delaware probably had a lot of input too

everyone seems to love the corporate laws there

[sabrina 1]

3. The Insurance companies were losing money. Unemployment affected them also, probably

cost them millions, maybe even billions. If nothing had been done, according to one report I read, many of them would have had to go out of business. They were desperate for a solution, and they got it.

Wendel Potter explained it several years ago. He was asked what his company thought when he showed them the video of Americans lining up outside animal stalls to get some free HC, did it make them feel bad that they had something to do with this? No, he said, what they saw were potentional customers. I think it was Moyers who asked him 'but how can poor people be good customers'?

Potter knew what they were going to do I think. Get that public money into their private hands, creating 30,000,000 new customers paid for by the tax payers. And the money is filtered through them now, instead of the way it was before. And they take their cut which is huge compared to the overhead of 3% when the government handles it.

So why do we need these middle men? What service do they perform that costs us at least 20% or more of that money?

It's such a shame that this country is so out of control when it comes to money that lives do not even factor in to the subject, even when it is supposedly about lives.

[SwampG8r]

4. i have been a manager

i run a historical non profit and i have run my own business several times and the first question i always have when i met anyone who wanted to do business was"what do you bring to the table?"
i dont need middlemen
one day we will wake up and realize the economy isnt wall street
wall street is a bunch of gamblers betting back and forth over what they pretend to own
the economy is everyone in this country collectivly and what they produce
one can and will survive without the other

[Lint Head]

6. I wish insurance companies had gone out of business.

They are nothing but damn banks. They handle money.

The irony is that Medicare claims, over payments and Medicare fraud is all administered by private
insurance companies. I know first hand. I worked for CIGNA at one time like Potter and they sold their
Medicare Government Contract to Blue Cross and Blue Shield of South Carolina. The State that just had the primary
and elected the very man in Congress that smoozed with insurance CEO's and lobbyists.

The next primary will be in Florida who's governor, actually committed millions of dollars in Medicare fraud and paid a 1.7 billion dollar fine.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/article/2010/jun/11/rick-scott-and-fraud-case-columbiahca/

[SwampG8r]

7. does that talk about

his requirement of welfare recipients to take drug tests that were handled by a company his wife has ownership interests in?

[BlueDemKev]

5. Agreed. I've always referred to it as "Health Insurance Reform"

Because that's what it is.

[eridani]

8. Which would be fine, if only insurance companies added any value

They don't. They are effectively engaged in mass murder for profit, preventing as much utilization by sick people as they possibly can. We still need health care reform, meaning that we need a public non-profit way of making sure everyone, no exceptions, has access to health CARE.