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marmar

(77,073 posts)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:45 AM Dec 2012

GE Salmon Swims Towards Approval, How’s that for a Holiday Surprise?


from Civil Eats:


GE Salmon Swims Towards Approval, How’s that for a Holiday Surprise?
By Anna Ghosh on December 21, 2012


Move over Grinch. The FDA is doing everything in its power to give American consumers a terrible holiday gift this year. Today they took the final step toward approving genetically engineered (GE) salmon, the first GE food animal. Even after countless Americans have expressed their deep concerns about this frankenfish, the FDA has turned a deaf ear moving forward with this reckless approval. That’s why we’re asking Congress to block the approval of GE salmon.

As we reported earlier this month, we’re not surprised that the FDA chose today, the Friday before Christmas, to release their draft Environmental Assessment. AquaBounty, the biotech company responsible for bringing us GE salmon, used its own data to convince the FDA that this fish is safe to eat. Of course they think it’s safe: their profits are inextricably linked to its approval. Which is why it’s so outrageous that the FDA would take AquaBounty’s word over that of dozens of legislators and scientists, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the U.S Fish and Wildlife Service, not to mention thousands of concerned consumers. The best way we can fight the FDA’s abuse of its approval power is by asking members of Congress to keep GE salmon out of our grocery stores.

And if the approval of GE salmon wasn’t enough to zap the holiday spirit right out of you, this frankenfish may be hitting the market without any sort of label, meaning that concerned consumers will have no way of choosing to avoid GE salmon. You see, AquaBounty — and apparently the FDA as well — don’t believe consumers deserve the right to know whether the fish they’ve been eating is genetically engineered. ................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://civileats.com/2012/12/21/ge-salmon-swims-towards-approval-hows-that-for-a-holiday-surprise/



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GE Salmon Swims Towards Approval, How’s that for a Holiday Surprise? (Original Post) marmar Dec 2012 OP
du rec. nt xchrom Dec 2012 #1
I hope the package states this before I don't buy it. JohLast Dec 2012 #2
They could put a graphic on the package... pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #3
don't buy farm raised salmon, the package definitely states that. Tunkamerica Dec 2012 #20
That very issue - our right to know what our food is -- could be huge in the next years Berlum Dec 2012 #29
If Obama could step in and kill an EPA reg(unpopular act) then he can step in and kill the FDA reg byeya Dec 2012 #4
agreed Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #10
I am already afraid to buy shrimp from the Gulf (Clorexit) or from overseas (feces). djean111 Dec 2012 #5
Shrimp was permanently banned from my diet after the BP spill IDemo Dec 2012 #6
Might as well add crab and oysters too! Soon there won't be any because they are quickly Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #14
There are two distinct crimes here IDemo Dec 2012 #7
Good idea....Here's a link to an app something like you are suggesting.... Berlum Dec 2012 #30
Agree with the above. We live in NC and will eat Atlantic shrimp but nothing that comes byeya Dec 2012 #8
my favorite is when the package says atlantic or pacific salmon (farm raised). Tunkamerica Dec 2012 #21
This thread doesn't deserve to sink out of sight because it impacts people and the planet in byeya Dec 2012 #9
K&R pscot Dec 2012 #11
Do we have any evidence that this fish is unsafe? Orrex Dec 2012 #12
Based on what we've seen LWolf Dec 2012 #16
From one source - IDemo Dec 2012 #17
+1 Tunkamerica Dec 2012 #22
I only eat green beans and Skippy's peanut butter now, so plethoro Dec 2012 #13
Skippy's contains GMO oils. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #19
Skippy? WTF? Atman Dec 2012 #31
I didn't know. After your post I am throwing out the two jars of Skippy I bought at plethoro Dec 2012 #32
Unconscionable. K&R n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #15
It makes me sick. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #18
I buy Pacific wild seafood almost exclusively pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #24
Awesome picture of your brother. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #26
Maybe you buy wild Pacific salmon ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #28
That's one of the joys of living in Alaska. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #33
You have a freezer? Isn't that redundant? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #35
It would probably freeze TOO hard Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #37
This is a great picture. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #34
people don't want this stuff, but it keeps on getting bigger. strange how it works. aside from HiPointDem Dec 2012 #23
Couldn't you avoud it by buying organic? RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #25
I know animals aren't plants, but the experience with plants is depressing Recursion Dec 2012 #36
Kicking. love_katz Dec 2012 #27

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
20. don't buy farm raised salmon, the package definitely states that.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:32 AM
Dec 2012

you can also tell by the sickly pink color... unless that's what gene they're splicing in.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
29. That very issue - our right to know what our food is -- could be huge in the next years
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:28 AM
Dec 2012

The defeat of Prop 37 in California -- apparently with vote fraud -- has spawned efforts in nearly 30 states to write and campaign for laws specifying that GM foods be clearly labeled.

That way you can buy GM if you want it, and you can avoid it if you want.

Common sense basic human rights stuff.

This linked article from SustainableBusiness.com is from late November. More states have since gotten active.

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/24311

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
4. If Obama could step in and kill an EPA reg(unpopular act) then he can step in and kill the FDA reg
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:55 AM
Dec 2012

which would be a popular act. I hope that occasionally Obama will think of the planet before profits. This has ramifications beyond food - salmon farming is a big source of pollution - and the genes of the franckenfish will inevitable degrade the wild populations.
Obama's environmental grade isn't much above an F.
Do something that won't screw the environment and is popular with voters Barack!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. I am already afraid to buy shrimp from the Gulf (Clorexit) or from overseas (feces).
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:56 AM
Dec 2012

So I stopped buying shrimp.
Looks like I may have to stop buying salmon?
We consumers are the test animals, it seems.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
6. Shrimp was permanently banned from my diet after the BP spill
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:02 AM
Dec 2012

I may have to take up fishing, which I haven't done in 30 years, to satisfy my taste for salmon.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
14. Might as well add crab and oysters too! Soon there won't be any because they are quickly
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:46 PM
Dec 2012

disappearing! Most of the seafood in the stores comes from S.E. Asia and their polluted waters anyway!

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
7. There are two distinct crimes here
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:06 AM
Dec 2012

The fucking with the salmon genome, and the cloaking of that crime from the eyes of consumers.

Someone needs to create an app that will ID crap like this from the barcode label.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
30. Good idea....Here's a link to an app something like you are suggesting....
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:34 AM
Dec 2012
http://truefoodnow.org/shoppers-guide/

Somebody will probably do the bar code app...if not already out there
 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
8. Agree with the above. We live in NC and will eat Atlantic shrimp but nothing that comes
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:37 AM
Dec 2012

from the Gulf of Mexico.
Salmon is one of the best foods you can eat and the administration is going to fuck it up.
And for those of you who take Omega 3 fish oil supplements, some will be contamination by this
messing with the salmons' genotype and you will ingest it.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
9. This thread doesn't deserve to sink out of sight because it impacts people and the planet in
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:01 AM
Dec 2012

several ways - all preventable by preventing franckenfish from being loosed upon us.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
12. Do we have any evidence that this fish is unsafe?
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:29 PM
Dec 2012

I haven't read much about it, so I'm asking the question honestly.


Thanks.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
16. Based on what we've seen
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:33 PM
Dec 2012

with genetically modified plant crops, it doesn't matter whether it's safe to eat the fish, although that is also a concern..

It's not safe for ecosystems, it's not safe for non GE species, and it's not safe for the 99% on the planet to be dependent on patented food sources owned by mega corporations.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
17. From one source -
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:39 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/pressreleases/consumer-groups-petition-fda-to-ban-ge-salmon-as-an-unsafe-food-additive/
“The data FDA has on GE salmon, which were supplied by Aquabounty, are incomplete, biased, and cannot be relied upon to show that the GE salmon is safe to consume,” said Food & Water Watch Executive Director Wenonah Hauter. “Aquabounty’s own study showed that GE salmon may contain increased levels of IGF-1, a hormone that helps accelerate the growth of the transgenic fish and is linked to breast, colon, prostate, and lung cancer.”
 

plethoro

(594 posts)
13. I only eat green beans and Skippy's peanut butter now, so
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
Dec 2012

it won't affect me. I used to eat a lot of fish. If we can get out of this country this year and go to New Zealand, maybe I'll eat fish again.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
31. Skippy? WTF?
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:36 AM
Dec 2012

There are so many good natural and/organic peanut butters out there...why would you be concerned about those other foods, yet think Skippy agri-sludge is good? Since massive shipments of peanut the mega food producers must buy frequently arrive furry little rodent stowaways, the FDA actually set a standard for how many rodents are acceptable. Think about that next time you see those little black specks in your Skippy or Jif. They may not indicate peanutty goodness! I swore of the big supermarket brands years ago.

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
32. I didn't know. After your post I am throwing out the two jars of Skippy I bought at
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:42 PM
Dec 2012

Sams yesterday and won't be buying it again. I don't like the textures of organic peanut butter. I will make inquiries at my diabetic website today to see what peanut butter they use. I'm sure these folks will think it strange that the owner of the website didn't know that Skippy was bad. Thanks for your answer. I actually appreciate it when people give informative answers like you did, regardless how intolerant they are. Between my website and my work at the Alzheimer's facility I don't have much time to eat let alone research peanut butters.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
18. It makes me sick.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:52 PM
Dec 2012

Terrible for the Alaska commercial fishermen ... Or maybe not if people reject the frankenfish.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
24. I buy Pacific wild seafood almost exclusively
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:04 AM
Dec 2012

The salmon, especially, is superior to the Atlantic and farm-raised products. A real treat is the Copper River Salmon, which goes on sale for a few weeks every season.

While he was alive, my little brother did fishing trips to Alaska, so I could also count on getting some great salmon from him. Instead of a formal portrait, the photo displayed at his memorial service was from his last Alaskan trip--pictured with a Coho...

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
28. Maybe you buy wild Pacific salmon ...
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:21 AM
Dec 2012

... but there's a lot of fraudulent labeling of various fish. Farm salmon labeled as "wild", any old fish labeled as "red snapper".

Me, I'm too dumb to know the difference, and that's what the fisheries, or wholesalers, or retailers, or restaurants are counting on.

At least your brother caught a real one. I bet it tasted great!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
35. You have a freezer? Isn't that redundant?
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:34 PM
Dec 2012

I thought in Alaska, you could just put stuff in the garage.

It's warmer where I am, the beer in the garage hardly ever freezes.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
37. It would probably freeze TOO hard
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:47 PM
Dec 2012

especially this winter. It's been COLD here this year. We only have a carport.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
23. people don't want this stuff, but it keeps on getting bigger. strange how it works. aside from
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:46 AM
Dec 2012

the usual criticisms, it means increasing corporate control of the food supply.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
36. I know animals aren't plants, but the experience with plants is depressing
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:39 PM
Dec 2012

There's pretty much no such thing as non-GMO soy grown in the US anymore, because of cross-pollination. You know, the stuff Monsanto swore wouldn't happen.

love_katz

(2,578 posts)
27. Kicking.
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 06:45 AM
Dec 2012

People have the right to reject this dangerous meddling with our food. We can't do that if the food is not labeled.

And I agree completely with what Lwolf said. We all know how trustworthy greedy corporate 'persons' are about disclosing any information which could interfere with their profits.

I do NOT want huge corporations having patent rights on the food I can buy to eat! And those same greed heads should not have the right to control what is available to us, either.

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