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Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:58 PM Jan 2012

Obama Is on the Brink of a Mortgage Settlement With the Big Banks—and Progressives Are Furious



Critics of Mortgage Deal Press Obama, State AGs to Reject Big Bank Proposal
Progressives "Furious" at Emerging Details of Mortgage Deal
By Common Dreams staff
January 23, 2012


A long anticipated draft settlement between the nation's largest private mortgage lenders and US states has been announced, but it doesn't look good for industry critics who hoped the banking giants — Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citibank and Ally Financial —would suffer full investigations and payouts equal to the damage they caused to homeowners and the overall economy. The deal would still have to be accepted by the states.

Earlier today the Associated Press reported:

The nation's five largest mortgage lenders have agreed to overhaul their industry after deceptive foreclosure practices drove homeowners out of their homes, government officials said Monday.

Those who lost their homes to foreclosure are unlikely to get their homes back or benefit much financially from the settlement, which could be as high as $25 billion. About 750,000 Americans — about half of the households who might be eligible for assistance under the deal — will likely receive checks for about $1,800.


http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/01/23-2


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Obama Is on the Brink of a Settlement With the Big Banks—and Progressives Are Furious
George Zornickon
January 23, 2012


For months, a massive federal settlement with big Wall Street banks over their role in the mortgage crisis has been in the offing. The rumored details have always given progressives heartburn: civil immunity, no investigations, inadequate help for homeowners and a small penalty for the banks. Now, on the eve President Obama’s State of the Union address—in which he plans to further advance a populist message against big money and income inequality—the deal may be here, and it’s every bit as ugly as progressives feared.

The Associated Press reports that a proposed deal could be announced within weeks. Five banks—Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citibank and Ally Financial (formerly GMAC)—would pay the federal government $25 billion. About $17 billion would be used to reduce the principal that some struggling homeowners owe, $5 billion more would be used for future federal and state programs and $3 billion would be used to help homeowners refinance at 5.25 percent. Civil immunity would be granted to the banks for any role in foreclosure fraud, and there would be no investigations.

Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio characterized the rumored deal as “not much more than a slap on the wrist,” and added that while banks were always know to be too big to fail, they were now apparently “too big to jail.”

“When laws are broken there need to be full investigations,” Brown said. “Wall Street should not get another bailout.”

Read the full article at:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/165806/obama-brink-settlement-big-banks-and-progressives-are-furious


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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 23, 2012

Campaign for America’s Future Urges President: Stand Against a Sweetheart Deal With the Big Banks


WASHINGTON - January 23 - Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America’s Future, is urging the Obama administration to investigate the big banks on mortgage related fraud before endorsing a settlement with them. With reports circulating of a pending state attorneys general settlement with the big banks that would immunize them from prosecution and civil suit in exchange for $25 billion, largely for principal reduction for underwater homeowners, the Campaign For America’s Future has joined in a broad coalition to oppose any sweetheart deal.

Statement from Robert L. Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America’s Future:

“Americans from across the political spectrum are angry that the Wall Street banks blew up the economy and got bailed out, while home owners and taxpayers were stuck with the bill.

“This is a fundamental question of justice and democracy. The law is respected only if it is enforced. Cutting a settlement with the banks before there is an investigation violates our basic sense of justice. No one who robbed a bank would be offered immunity, a modest fine and no admission of guilt – before there was an investigation into who stole the money and how much they took.

“And there is a fundamental question of whether the democracy can hold the wealthiest few accountable. Americans are increasingly cynical about politicians, believing that Wall Street can buy and sell Washington. This is destructive to our democracy. The President’s campaign will highlight his commitment to fair rules and a fair shot for every American. A sweetheart deal with the banks would be a glaring contradiction to that theme. Any deal, enforced over the objections of the most independent Attorneys General, like New York’s Eric Schneiderman, will fail that test.

“What the people want is clear: Investigation before immunity. Penalize the perpetrators, not their victims. Any settlement must have sufficient scope to deal with the scale of the problem. There is an estimated $700 billion of negative equity in underwater homes. While 1 million homeowners have been helped by efforts to save homeowners, 10.7 million homeowners are underwater and that does not count people who have already suffered foreclosure. The top six banks paid bonuses worth $140 billion last year alone, or $420 billion over the last three years. They hold assets of $9.5 trillion. The rumored settlement of $25 billion is barely a slap on the wrist.

“It is vital to this country that the banks are made accountable. It is vital that they do not see the law as simply a minor price of doing profitable business, a speed bump on the way to their bonuses.

“With Occupy Wall Street inspiring activists and with citizens across the country being asked to pay to clean up the mess the banks created in the economy, every state Attorney General and the Administration should understand that any deal will receive widespread public scrutiny. Any settlement must be able to satisfy the standards of justice and fairness. What is now on the table does not come close.

“I want to laud Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.) for defending the most vulnerable consumers and for advocating for better solutions to the foreclosure crisis.”

Act now: Stand Against a Sweetheart Deal for the Banks!
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The Campaign for America’s Future is the strategy center for the progressive movement. Our goal is to forge the enduring progressive majority needed to realize the America of shared prosperity and equal opportunity that our country was meant to be.

http://www.ourfuture.org/news-release/2012010423/campaign-america-s-future-urges-president-stand-against-sweetheart-deal-big-


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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 23, 2012

Statement by AFL-CIO President Richard L. Trumka on Possible Bank Mortgage and Foreclosure Fraud Settlement


WASHINGTON - January 23 - We need to hold banks accountable for the fraudulent practices that brought about the worst economic crisis since the Depression. State Attorneys General have been investigating bank fraud, and these critical investigations must not be undermined by a premature and inadequate settlement. We call on the administration to reject any deal that insulates banks from full responsibility.

It is critical that the Department of Justice lead a comprehensive investigation together with the state Attorneys General to prevent banks from engaging in future unlawful and deceptive practices that could exploit homeowners and put the economy further at risk.

We commend state Attorneys General like New York's Eric Schneiderman and Delaware's Beau Biden for their leadership and courage in calling for a real investigation and relief on a scale that helps the millions of homeowners who face a new wave of foreclosures.

The economy is currently weighed down by $750 billion in negative home equity, so relief on a massive scale is needed to lift home values and stimulate the economy by increasing consumer demand. A comprehensive settlement must force banks to write down underwater mortgages. A sum significantly larger than the rumored $25 billion is needed for the economy to grow and create jobs.

Specifically, the administration must stand strong against the big banks and insist on:

1) A full and thorough investigation into problems tied to the residential mortgage-backed securities (RMBS) market, and

2) A guaranteed minimum amount of money set aside for reducing the mortgage principal of "underwater" homeowners in key states impacted by the foreclosure crisis.

This is an opportunity for the administration to demonstrate leadership and show that it has the political will to do what's right for homeowners and right for our economy.
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The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) is a voluntary federation of 56 national and international labor unions. The AFL-CIO union movement represents 10.5 million members, including 2 million members in Working America, its new community affiliate. We are teachers and truck drivers, musicians and miners, firefighters and farm workers, bakers and bottlers, engineers and editors, pilots and public employees, doctors and nurses, painters and laborers-and more.

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2012/01/23-8
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Obama Is on the Brink of a Mortgage Settlement With the Big Banks—and Progressives Are Furious (Original Post) Better Believe It Jan 2012 OP
I think I'll wait for the real story on this story. Whisp Jan 2012 #1
You read all four of those articles in two minutes! You're a faster reader than me! Better Believe It Jan 2012 #5
Maybe they already read them Renew Deal Jan 2012 #13
If you have read the articles please post your opinion on them. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #22
Actually, I was going to say the same thing to you. Renew Deal Jan 2012 #28
But I asked you for your opinion and this is your response? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #32
I wasn't interested in commenting, but I am interested in your opinion. Renew Deal Jan 2012 #33
They are informative and clearly stand on the side of homeowners and not the Wall Street banksters. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #38
ALERT: The Internets are buzzing that Obama might cave in on the Keystone XL pipeline. Robb Jan 2012 #2
relevance? paulk Jan 2012 #7
"Progressives Are Furious" Renew Deal Jan 2012 #12
seems to me, reading through the articles paulk Jan 2012 #16
Those awful progressives.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #18
And the catfood commision. Swede Jan 2012 #8
and old people are falling down dead in the streets because SS was cut off. Whisp Jan 2012 #9
Do you wish to challenge or refute any of the points in the articles? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #10
Do you Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #27
They are informative and clearly stand on the side of homeowners and not the banksters. Your turn. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #30
It has a catchy beat Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #40
Ummm....he just punted it down the road.... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #34
K&R DJ13 Jan 2012 #3
Why am I not surprised AnOhioan Jan 2012 #4
... babylonsister Jan 2012 #6
Note that it is "civil immunity" not "criminal immunity" bhikkhu Jan 2012 #11
A. Any immunity for the banks is bullshit Confusious Jan 2012 #17
"Immunity" just means they won't be fined twice for the same thing bhikkhu Jan 2012 #19
assuming you means in a legal/criminal sense Confusious Jan 2012 #20
Civil immunity is going to affect tens of thousands or more victims of the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #21
all I know is thousands of families have lost their homes newspeak Jan 2012 #24
Adding criminal immunity to that ensures that the banksters will continue their criminal behavior, tpsbmam Jan 2012 #37
For "criminal immunity" ... sendero Feb 2012 #50
Here's an e-mail I got from Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO President, today. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #14
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2012 #15
Oh well, too bad. Wish he could've done more. Still better than President Gingrich. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #23
That's the standard by which we hold our "Democrats" accountable now? "At least they aren't Newt? truebrit71 Jan 2012 #35
Start by helping elect them. I know I am. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #43
I thought that's what I was doing in 2008....and look how that turned out... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #44
OK so just give it all up and walk away. That's "progress". FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #45
No, we kick, we shout, we scream, we occupy.... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #46
Since this requires approval by the states, I think I'll wait MineralMan Jan 2012 #25
****OP LINKS TELL HALF THE STORY***** uponit7771 Jan 2012 #26
That's what they do. Swede Jan 2012 #29
And the other half of the story is that of the Wall Street banksters? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #31
And we yours. Robb Jan 2012 #36
All this BS "wait to hear from the states" excuses.....what about Obama pressuring those states tpsbmam Jan 2012 #39
*crickets* SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #58
Just-Us = More Welfare for Wall Street Octafish Jan 2012 #41
DURec. bvar22 Jan 2012 #42
K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #47
As we can see today, this post was full of mistaken information. Robb Feb 2012 #48
"What can we learn from this?" Don't trust the corporate friendly political deal makers. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #49
And with that, Mr. Bonaparte declared victory. Robb Feb 2012 #51
Awesome... SidDithers Feb 2012 #53
Robb, you owe me a berry tea. I just lost it. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #54
The "big deal" verify the lead articles in this post. They were 100% spot on! Better Believe It Feb 2012 #57
So-called "progressives" need to chill! This deal does not stop any further lawsuits. nanabugg Feb 2012 #52
Which is acceptable, why? TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #56
sound and more furiousness Whisp Feb 2012 #55
 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
5. You read all four of those articles in two minutes! You're a faster reader than me!
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jan 2012

Do you wish to refute anything in any of the four articles?

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
32. But I asked you for your opinion and this is your response?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jan 2012

You're answering a question with a question!

I think that could be described as a non-answer or evasion.

Renew Deal

(81,851 posts)
33. I wasn't interested in commenting, but I am interested in your opinion.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jan 2012

Why did you think this was interesting to post? What is your opinion of the issues you presented?

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
38. They are informative and clearly stand on the side of homeowners and not the Wall Street banksters.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:50 PM
Jan 2012

Your turn!

paulk

(11,586 posts)
16. seems to me, reading through the articles
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:23 AM
Jan 2012

that it's hardly just progressives that are worried about this. And I don't think the constant vilification of "progressives" by certain of Obama's more ardent supporters serves Obama well. It's a cheap tactic used to shut off debate.

It's bullshit, IMHO. This subject needs to be discussed - Obama needs to be pressured - and diverting by trying to single out and ridicule, incorrectly at that, a subset of Democrats, isn't going to help in that effort.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
18. Those awful progressives..
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:09 AM
Jan 2012

always mad when their pensions get sold out to Wall Street crooks and reckless oil companies cause massive pollution and stuff like that.

Wish they would just STFU already!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
9. and old people are falling down dead in the streets because SS was cut off.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jan 2012

like, totally.

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
10. Do you wish to challenge or refute any of the points in the articles?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jan 2012

Do you have anything at all to challenge the articles .... anything?

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
30. They are informative and clearly stand on the side of homeowners and not the banksters. Your turn.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jan 2012

Go ahead.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
40. It has a catchy beat
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:25 PM
Jan 2012

and easy to dance to....

That was stunningly superficial. Now...care to add some substance, in your own words?

IOW....reinforce your support of the articles the same way you demand substantive rebuttal.

You posted them, so you must have enough understanding to provide some manner of supportive commentary?

Oh dear... You even cut and paste your own responses?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002210116#post38

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
34. Ummm....he just punted it down the road....
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jan 2012

...it is far from being dead...he still has plenty of time to cave on that one as well...

bhikkhu

(10,714 posts)
11. Note that it is "civil immunity" not "criminal immunity"
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jan 2012

...back when all this debate started, when Schneiderman was looking like backing NY out of the agreement, the big worry was that the administration would tie the AG's hands by giving criminal immunity. Of course, the president assured that that's not what they were going to do, but (as per usual) there was no end to angst and fear that he'd give in to the bank's lobby.

So he didn't give an inch, apparently - no criminal immunity was granted, the $20 billion fine of summer has become $25 billion, and the AG's are free as they have always been to prosecute to their heart's content (which hasn't been very much). Yet there is no end to griping anyway.

The technical issues of robo-signing were very suited to a civil penalty, and the amount - as tiny as people like to say it is - is one of the largest fines ever levied, and it will do a great deal of good. Of course, if the banks had a shot at keeping that 25 billion - say, by stirring the pot about how it was a big waste, how a better agreement might be had, how Obama had sold everybody out - and by filling the pockets of whatever repug was running for office against him...then they might be completely off the hook in a year's time, with few worries at all. It makes me wonder who might be paying for all the big press of news griping about "Obama's bad deal".

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
17. A. Any immunity for the banks is bullshit
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:57 AM
Jan 2012

( Civil, criminal. No investigations means no criminal suit.)

B. These guys brought the economy to the brink and profited from it. They should be hung by their thumbs.

O, of course, of course, Obamas not a dictator, lilly ledbetter, Th Republicans, blah blah blah.

NOW it's the Republicans could get in in a year and not do anything, except the states attorney generals would have the power to continue the suit. And the administration didn't step in until most of them where suing the banks.

I'm getting tired of being handed a shit sandwich and being told it's The best motherfucking PB&J I've ever had.

bhikkhu

(10,714 posts)
19. "Immunity" just means they won't be fined twice for the same thing
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:16 AM
Jan 2012

Basically the same as double jeopardy, though of course one may be prosecuted in criminal court for something that has been settled in a civil court. If you look at the actual conduct that is being settled for, its pretty technical, careless, perhaps contemptuous, but in itself demonstrated more incompetence than an organized or successful attempt at fraud.

In any case, anyone who wants to hang them by their thumbs (assuming you means in a legal/criminal sense) remains free to do so - that would typically be the job of the AG's.

...such as this case, very much approved of by the president's attorney general: http://peoplesworld.org/bank-pays-biggest-settlement-ever-in-mortgage-rip-off/

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
20. assuming you means in a legal/criminal sense
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:28 AM
Jan 2012

Well, if a corporation was an actual person ( Not just legal ), yes, hang them by their thumbs.

Since they are not, legal sense.

$35 million is a measly fine. For this sort of criminal shit, it should have been $35 million for every year it went on, and all profits them made from doing the illegal shit. And if their books aren't good enough, take all their profits for the year.

It may seem harsh, but I get no less when I get a ticket. If it's large enough, some months I have to do without.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. Civil immunity is going to affect tens of thousands or more victims of the
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:32 AM
Jan 2012

fraudulent banksters who forged documents to force them out of their homes. My friend is one of them. So now, after finally getting acknowledgement that her home was unlawfully taken from her, the only recourse she had will no longer be available to her. That's the thanks her dead husband, a war veteran, gets for serving his country. Everytime I see politicians talking about how they respect the troops, I feel like throwing up.

The law mill that handled that illegal foreclosure along with 50,000 others (all of whom are involved in a Rico class action suit against them) has been forced to shut down finally. But what happens now to that lawsuit, to hers and to all the others who lost their homes??

You would think the Party of the People would be fighting for the people. Instead they are so often so willing to dismiss the pain and horror many of these homeowners were put through, some to the point of committing suicide. Wish I could summon up some sympathy for the wealthy Bankers and just forget about the working class. I just can't do it though.

Let them eat cake!

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
24. all I know is thousands of families have lost their homes
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:41 AM
Jan 2012

I'm more concerned about what's happening with these families than these shyster bankers.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
37. Adding criminal immunity to that ensures that the banksters will continue their criminal behavior,
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jan 2012

knowing that the 1% will be protected at all costs and destroying the economy via fucking the 99% will go virtually unpunished under both Democratic & Republican regimes. Yeah, some low-level punks will get tossed in the clink, but they're always expendable. Just as long as the elite go essentially unscathed, it's all good.


sendero

(28,552 posts)
50. For "criminal immunity" ...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:53 PM
Feb 2012

..... to mean ANYTHING, our Justice Dept and AGs have to actually enforce the law. They haven't been for years so I see no reason to think they are suddenly going to.

This is de facto blanket immunity.

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
14. Here's an e-mail I got from Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO President, today.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:06 AM
Jan 2012


Dear XXXXXXXXXXXX

Sometime very soon, President Obama has a decision to make. The consequences will impact the lives of millions of underwater homeowners and the future of our economy.

Settlement talks with the Big Banks that caused our mortgage crisis are ongoing. And the Obama administration is a big part of those talks. The President and administration officials can either let Big Banks and mortgage fraudsters off the hook with a slap on the wrist—or push for real accountability.

Sign our petition to President Obama urging him to side with working families.

Big Banks and mortgage fraudsters have a lot to answer for. They abused and defrauded consumers—and their greed and recklessness caused a devastating financial crisis. There are 7.5 million homes that have entered the foreclosure process, with another 4.8 million homeowners at risk.

Now, it’s time to set things right. The Obama administration should reject any weak settlement that amounts to a slap on the wrist for bankers and fraudsters and push for a robust settlement that provides relief to millions of underwater homeowners.

Tell President Obama: It’s critical that the Department of Justice lead a comprehensive investigation. We need you to fight to hold Big Banks and mortgage fraudsters accountable and keep millions of Americans in their homes.

State Attorneys General from coast to coast have been investigating bank fraud. And a group of them—including New York’s Eric Schneiderman and Delaware's Beau Biden—have stood up for working families by working for a robust settlement that provides real accountability and has the potential to keep millions of underwater Americans in their homes.

This work must not be undermined by a premature and inadequate settlement. Wrongdoing was committed on a massive scale. That’s why it’s time for the Obama administration and the Justice Department to lead a full investigation—and work with the bravest state Attorneys General like Schneiderman and Biden to fight for real accountability and a tough settlement.

Tell President Obama: We need a settlement strong enough to ensure that this never happens again.

A key to getting our economy moving again is providing relief to underwater homeowners and making sure this kind of abuse never happens again. President Obama has to get this right. Let’s help him do the right thing.

Thank you for all the work you do.

In Solidarity,

Richard L. Trumka
President, AFL-CIO
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
35. That's the standard by which we hold our "Democrats" accountable now? "At least they aren't Newt?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jan 2012

Fuck that...I want Democrats to ACT like fucking Democrats...

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
44. I thought that's what I was doing in 2008....and look how that turned out...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:04 PM
Jan 2012

...what's that line? Fool me once....

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
25. Since this requires approval by the states, I think I'll wait
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jan 2012

to read the actual agreement before deciding what I think about it. There will be time. The details of it are not known. Experience has demonstrated that getting my Fruit of the Looms all twisted up before actually seeing what is in a draft document is a mistake.

So, when this is produced and I can look at it, I'll probably have something to say. But then, I'm not in the business of opining on things to make Obama look bad. Some folks have to earn their living that way, so they write about things before they really know what's in them.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
26. ****OP LINKS TELL HALF THE STORY*****
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jan 2012

We have to wait on the states to see how story ends.

Bashers leave pivital information out of their narrative in regards to Obama

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
31. And the other half of the story is that of the Wall Street banksters?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jan 2012

I think I have already read their line of crap.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
39. All this BS "wait to hear from the states" excuses.....what about Obama pressuring those states
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:13 PM
Jan 2012

to back off? In making endless excuses for the President, his supporters who choose to forgive EVERYTHING have to ignore a whole hell of a lot!

So what about pressuring states to back off investigations & prosecutions? Here are two examples:

From the NY Times:

Eric T. Schneiderman, the attorney general of New York, has come under increasing pressure from the Obama administration to drop his opposition to a wide-ranging state settlement with banks over dubious foreclosure practices, according to people briefed on discussions about the deal.

In recent weeks, Shaun Donovan, the secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and high-level Justice Department officials have been waging an intensifying campaign to try to persuade the attorney general to support the settlement, said the people briefed on the talks.

Mr. Schneiderman and top prosecutors in some other states have objected to the proposed settlement with major banks, saying it would restrict their ability to investigate and prosecute wrongdoing in a variety of areas, including the bundling of loans in mortgage securities.

But Mr. Donovan and others in the administration have been contacting not only Mr. Schneiderman but his allies, including consumer groups and advocates for borrowers, seeking help to secure the attorney general’s participation in the deal, these people said. One recipient described the calls from Mr. Donovan, but asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation.


And in a separate NY Times article:

The desire to know precisely what happened during that give-a-mortgage-to-anyone-who-breathes, securitize-this frenzy has historical antecedents. In the Great Depression, the United States Senate hired another New York lawyer, Ferdinand Pecora, to write the report on its investigation of that collapse.

Mr. Pecora found more questions than answers, and insisted on more subpoenas, more forensic investigators and more brokers testifying under oath. Like a man reaching into a barrel of dead fish, he found a great stink. Not least, he discovered that National City (the lineal ancestor of the same misbehaving Citigroup) had sold flawed investments and that its president engaged in something close to tax evasion.

Seventy-eight years later, the Obama administration has Shaun Donovan, secretary of housing and urban development; the economic adviser Gene Sperling; and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. dialing liberals, activists and bloggers, urging them to pressure the rebellious attorneys general to forgo emotionally satisfying inquiries and take the deal.


-- how do you ignore this?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
42. DURec.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:29 PM
Jan 2012
"Waiting to see how this plays out" is a recipe for disaster.
Raise Hell NOW! before it is too late.

The White House is watching these Trial Balloons.
The White House is also watching those attempting to Oil the Troubled Waters,
and evaluating how effective they are at deflating the issue.




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Robb

(39,665 posts)
48. As we can see today, this post was full of mistaken information.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:31 PM
Feb 2012

The deal does not include, for example, any immunity from prosecution.

It also does not preclude any investigations.

What can we learn from this?

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
49. "What can we learn from this?" Don't trust the corporate friendly political deal makers.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:45 PM
Feb 2012

CASE CLOSED.
 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
57. The "big deal" verify the lead articles in this post. They were 100% spot on!
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012

The banksters can breath easier now.
 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
52. So-called "progressives" need to chill! This deal does not stop any further lawsuits.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
Feb 2012

That's why the deal was approved by Calif. and NY. This case only involves what happened to the documentation. It is not the final deal.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
56. Which is acceptable, why?
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:38 AM
Feb 2012

The "final deal" what be an utter clusterfuck and this is a step in that direction.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
55. sound and more furiousness
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:37 AM
Feb 2012

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

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