It's over - the Reagan Revolution is dead and about to be buried

[malaise]

Bye Bye Rove you evil fuck! Bye Bye Grover you treasonous scumbag! Bye fucking bye - thank you Obama - of course everyone wants more but as they admitted last week you destroyed 30 years of piss trickling down on poor people.

Yes we Can - only people can take them down.

[JaneyVee]

1. Nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, gooooodbyyyyye!

[freshwest]

27. Well. since you mentioned it...

[Chorophyll]

2. Best thread-title I've ever read.

Make it so.

[socialist_n_TN]

3. Don't often disagree with you malaise, but here?.....

I think that the death of the Reagan Revolution is premature. As long as the generation of politicians that came of age and into politics DURING this dark time in our history still holds power, the Reagan legacy is still going to be a BIG problem.

[malaise]

4. They are now on life support - it's up to the people

Across the globe people are resisting this neo-liberal bullshit.
Time for the rule of law to be enforced so we can lock up the criminals everywhere.
Next there will be reforms to those gun and magazine laws.

[indepat]

10. I've no doubt the Gipper's deification process will continue to proceed at flank

speed: all hail the mighty Gipper who made the skies safe for flying and also dumped untold thousands off the social security disability rolls without due process, many of whom died before they could be rightfully restored. Again, all hail the mighty Gipper from whom almost all American blessing have flowed these past some 30 years. Yeah!

[Swede Atlanta]

16. Agree...

As long as Lizard Man Gingrich and his ilk are alive the threat remains. They would rather destroy this country than do the right thing.

[AlbertCat]

28. As long as Lizard Man Gingrich and his ilk are alive...

Yes. The Reagan legacy is the "Greed is Good" meme. When it returns to the back roads, we will be much better off. But we ain't there yet.

[chuckstevens]

18. I'm with you!

Unless the Democratic party starts doing a better job of boldly standing up for and explaining the need to maintain traditional Democratic ideas like Social Security, Unions, Medicare, Education, Wall Street Regulation, and raising the minimum wage, the conservative ideas that began to make people vote against their own interests in the early 1980's are not going away anytime soon.

Don't forget that because of Fox News, a.k.a. Goebbelsvision, the mainstream media will still feel compelled to give radical right ideas legitimacy. All you have to do is listen to David Gregory, Wolf Blitzer, or Joe Scarborough to know this is true.

[No Compromise]

65. Obama just blamed medicare for the deficit

His lies aren't exactly helping our party move forward.

[mike_c]

5. wishful thinking, I'm afraid....

The deal to avert the current manufactured "crisis" sets up the next one in a couple of months. Bread and circus all around!

[chimpymustgo]

6. This. The plutocrats are playing the long game. And we are celebrating like we won something.

We got the plastic toy in the cracker jacks box.

They're playing for all the marbles.

We LOSE. Again.

But some need to enjoy the delusion. I guess it's better than nothing.

[malaise]

8. They played the long game in the election

They never expected to have to deal with a fiscal cliff - they expected to win the elections and they lost = taxes are going up.

Obama is not going to play with them re the debt ceiling

[Skidmore]

11. Well, let's just give it up.

Why even bother? We only lose if we stop fighting. Better than nothing? Delusion? Stop with the BS and get in the fray. Jeez.

[KittyWampus]

32. Save us from Cynics like you. Because any progress must be denies as it invalidates your world view.

But I know how that position makes people feel superior.

[freshwest]

33. And saves a lot of effort, too. Since it's all 'rigged, a done deal, it's every man for himself...'

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A self-fulfiling prophecy. Obama isn't playing that game, neither were the people at the DNC and the thousands who listened to a simple message from Obama about what WE could do.

Those who want to mock from the sidelines, how can we say they were with us?. That's the conclusion I finally reached.

Those with'skin in the game,' are going to keep on working. Those who don't, will do what they do best. Stand back and see if we get anything done then fly in like crows to steal when they see something worth getting.

I've worked with organizing and the naywayers show up like clockwork after anything is accomplished to come and feed. Too good to do the work, but glad to share in the results of the work.

it'll be okay, though.

[Surya Gayatri]

38. You said a mouthful there, fresh...

"Those with 'skin in the game,' are going to keep on working. Those who don't, will do what they do best. Stand back and see if we get anything done then fly in like crows to steal when they see something worth getting."

What a graphic metaphor--like raucous raptors preying on the goodwill and work of others.

[malaise]

39. As far as I know it has always been up to the people n/t

[malaise]

47. Great post

Should be an OP - Happy New Year

[riqster]

55. Nice post!

Deserves its own thread IMNSHO.

[October]

37. +1

Indeed!

[chimpymustgo]

50. If I'm a Cynic, perhaps you are gullible? You think the Reagan Revolution is over? Corporate forces

are throwing in the towel?

[lunatica]

57. Let's say the writing is on the wall

It's actually been on the wall since 2008. It got a little clearer during the last election. Or do you think the millions and millions of dollars poured into the Republican campaign by billionaires and corporations was a victory for them? Their money didn't buy them what they wanted.

It isn't sudden death or nothing you know. It's a war with hundreds of battles fought. It's called progress.

[NoMoreWarNow]

67. the momentum is turning at least... but more work remains

which is why we can't give up on the Dems yet.

[Champion Jack]

58. Wrong

[obama2terms]

66. What do you mean lose, our taxes aren't going up and Obama isn't taking their shit anymore

[Cosmocat]

68. you are correct

I think they fought a relatively decent fight this go around, but is not so much a victory as a minor non-getting fucked.

The Rs are going NO WHERE, and they are going to be even meaner and nasty moving forward.

[Democrats_win]

7. reagan's body belongs with Osama bin Laden's.

Dig it up and bury him with Osama bin Laden. Certainly, the reagan revolution terrified and harmed more Americans. His reign of terror lasted 32 years.

[Boomerproud]

9. What has Obama done to "defeat" them?

I still see Boehner, Cantor, McCain and Graham's ugly mugs everywhere, plus dozens of other crazies still in power. Wake me up when this nightmare is truly over.

[Amonester]

30. For me, he threw back a portion of their own bulls.it straight in their treasonous faces.

And by doing that, he (and Joe) also prevented another economic meltdown due up to start as soon as tomorrow morning...

Good enough for now.

[lunatica]

59. Do you believe in progress?

in wars that are won only after many battles?

That's what politics is. One step at a time progress. In the end everyone wins if the right progress is made.

[Coyotl]

12. The Reagan "Regression" is more like it!

Now, we need a few decades to recover!

[CranialRectaLoopback]

13. What's with all the April Fools jokes on January 1st?

[Politicub]

14. :)

[RedstDem]

15. pass it over here

I'll take some of whatever your smoking.

[budkin]

26. Me too...OP is out of their mind

[caledesi]

45. Ray-gun did a lot of damage! nt

[whatchamacallit]

17. Putting the hyper in hyperbole

[Sarah Ibarruri]

19. Reagan began decades of serious damage to the middle class nt

[Barack_America]

20. The recent passage of "Right to Work" in my state of MI argues against...

...though I'd love for this to be true.

[awoke_in_2003]

22. + 1 million...

they may be down, but they ain't out.

[malaise]

48. That will soon be in court

They will fail

[TheKentuckian]

21. From your lips to God's ears but I see little to support such a belief.

Seems more widespread than ever to me.

[craigmatic]

23. Maybe but it's hard to tell when

[femmocrat]

24. I have been waiting for 32 years for the pendulum to swing back.

Thank you, democrats!

[budkin]

25. Wait what? We're not even at the same rates as under Clinton?

[DallasNE]

29. And So Is The Hastert Rule

That rule stated the the Speaker needed to have a majority of his party before bringing it to the floor. More Republicans voted no than voted yes on the just passed fiscal cliff bill.

[Flatulo]

31. I think it took the Great Recession for a critical mass of souls to realize how vulnerable they were

This recession has been a great equalizer. Many well-off middle-class families lost their jobs, then their homes, then everything.

Nothing like a fall from grace to clear the mind. We're indeed in this together.

[Kennah]

34. While we have reason enough to be hopeful, I don't yet think it's dead.

If the next 4 years brings economic progress as it starts to undo some of Reagan's legacy, like movement towards more protectionism and Fair Trade over Unfettered Trade, a resurgence of unions, investment in our infrastructure, then I think Reagan's legacy will be completely dead in 10 years.

But today, I worry there is still too much trickle down trickling out of the mouths of too many Americans.

Drinking my last swig of Blue Moon, I toast to the death of the Reagan Revolution, eventually.

[caledesi]

46. I LOVE Blue Moon beer! nt

[colsohlibgal]

35. Not Quite

Look where the highest marginal tax rate was when Ronnie took over and see where it is now and where it's going and Ronnie's revolution is still doing well.

[Greybnk48]

36. Love your thread, and I agree!!

Ronnie Raygun's agenda (especially the bastardized, Norquist version), is history! We need to keep working hard, but it's clearly happening!!

[malaise]

40. And one of the ReTHUG gurus admitted this last week

[hfojvt]

41. that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard

Obama is on TV bragging about how great the deal is - because it cut taxes.

I called him President Reagan as I left my sister's house to avoid listening to him. He has spent 4 year embracing Reaganomics.

The Reagan Revolution has completely taken over the Democratic Party.

Rather than being dead - it is dominant.

BTW - with the new Obama/Bush tax cuts, the richest 20% get 3 times as much in tax cuts as the poorest 60%.

[Scootaloo]

42. We should beat it with shovels and drive a stake through its chest, just to be sure.

[HiPointDem]

43. it's very much alive, unfortunately.

[limpyhobbler]

77. yeah

as far as I knew it was alive and well.

[caledesi]

44. Well said! nt

[caledesi]

49. On Jeopardy college kids didn't recognize St. Reagan...what does that tell ya?

Elvis is still in the building! Have MS,but can sometimes can post due to on-screen keyboard. Hospice takes good care of me.

[malaise]

51. Good to see you

Happy New Year

[caledesi]

71. Thanks mal! I try. nt

[vi5]

52. Uh....

Record low tax rates on 98% of the country were just locked in and made permanent.

Unions are being rapidly neutered and villified on a bipartisan basis.

Public schools are being villified on a bipartisan basis with pro-charter school folks being appointed in charge of education by Democrats.

And thats' just right off the tip of the tongue.

Hard to see how that's a dead and burried Reagan revolution. The only reason it's dead is because he has mostly gotten everything he wanted and even more than he himself put into place.

[Gman]

53. I sure wish you were right but these people don't go away

They still pushed tax cuts and cut spending in 1930, they blasted FDR and kept coming, they bolted from the Democratic Party created the modern GOP after LBJ did the things he did. They impeached Clinton. They don't stop and they're always coming back. They blocked everything Obama wanted to do. We must be ever vigilant.

[Cosmocat]

69. Seriously

We had a rash of THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS DEAD posts here in 08, after two really good election cycles.

Two years later the GOP had one of the biggest House takeovers in history, darn near got the senate, took a majority of state legislatures and governorships, just in time, no coincidentally, to control redistricting that secured their districts for the next decade.

I keep posting this and people don't want to hear it.

They are meaner and unrelenting, and are going nowhere.

[Gman]

70. I completely agree except that

it was no coincidence about them taking over the state houses. It was completely intentional. They had a game plan and executed it very well. Many people here and elsewhere were pissed with Obama and were going to "teach the Democrats a lesson" in the worst year they could have done it in. The year that decided who would control the statehouses for redistricting.

And what completely amazes me is they wonder why.

[Cosmocat]

72. I was being sarcastic

about that.

THEY knew FULL WELL the importance of 2010, and yes, democrats, somehow were left scratching their heads.

[bowens43]

54. Dead? We just made it the law of the land.

Obama could have killed but chose instead gave it eternal life....

[lunatica]

56. This is a start for us if we're smart

and I think we are. It's time the American people took back our power and started acting like we're the boss for a change.

[malaise]

61. Slowly but surely people are waking up

and taking back their country from the lunatics.

[Mosaic]

60. And don't forget our Socialist President

Called Himself a moderate republican recently. Let's be real, as much as it hurts.

[tiredtoo]

62. The revolution is not dead

But it is dying on the vine. We all must continue and increase our efforts to drive a stake through the evil monster. They still have tons of money and tons of fight left in them. We have turned the corner now it is time to put the hammer down and move forward.

[No Compromise]

63. right- they just got everything they want, and Democrats are celebrating a victory

They are alive and well, and clearly still winning as Dems remain delusional.

They have the media and all the money and are still doing whatever the fuck they want.

They have no shame and no one holding them accountable.

[Scurrilous]

64. K & R

[malaise]

73. Some folks missed this from last week

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/krauthammer-obama-has-succeeded-in-creating-internal-civil-war-within-the-gop/
<snip>

Appearing on Fox News Thursday, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer said President Barack Obama has successfully broken the will of Republicans in the House and has created an “internal civil war” amidst “fiscal cliff” negotiations.

“He’s been using this, and I must say with great skill — and ruthless skill and success — to fracture and basically shatter the Republican opposition,” Krauthammer said. “His objective from the very beginning was to break the will of the Republicans in the House, and to create an internal civil war. And he’s done that.”

He said Obama has been pressuring Republicans to consider increasing tax rates ever since he got reelected because he knew it could create tension within the GOP. Krauthammer added that Obama would rather score a political victory than actually deal with the out-of-control national debt.

And they did for the first time in 22 years

[totodeinhere]

74. Not so fast. The Bush tax cuts were made permanent for 98% of Americans.

Reagan would be proud.

[KansDem]

75. NOT SO FAST!!! The GOP may try to resurrect The Master himself: Ronald Reagan!

Zombie Reagan Raised From Grave To Lead GOP

[Joey Liberal]

76. Reagan should have been impeached

nuff said.