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In the future, your hard drive may not be your hard drive: A federal judge has ruled that a Colorado woman, charged in a mortgage scam case, must turn over the password needed to decrypt her hard drive so that police can view the files on it.
Ramona Fricosu was given until Feb. 21 to comply with the order by U.S. District Court Judge Robert Blackburn. The judge said Fricosu's defense the Fifth Amendment's right against self-incrimination did not apply in the case, in which she is charged with bank fraud, wire fraud and money laundering. "I find and conclude that the Fifth Amendment is not implicated by requiring production of the unencrypted contents of the Toshiba Satellite M305 laptop computer," the judge said in his ruling Tuesday, as reported by CNET.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital civil liberties organization that filed an amicus brief on Fricosu's behalf, had argued that Fricosu should not be compelled to give up her password because it would violate her Fifth Amendment right, and there was no immunity "offered for loss of this protection."
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But the U.S. Attorney's Office said in court documents that if Fricosuwasn't ordered to unlock her computer, it would result in a "concession to her and potential criminals (be it in child exploitation, national security, terrorism, financial crimes or drug trafficking cases) that encrypting all inculpatory digital evidence will serve to defeat the efforts of law enforcement officers to obtain such evidence through judicially authorized search warrants, and thus make their prosecution impossible.
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/23/10219384-judge-orders-woman-to-give-up-password-to-hard-drive
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i read r heard something recently where you can be expected to give this shit up and turn it over in a divorce.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)Kablooie
(18,608 posts)The judge has the ability to decree that and throw you in jail without any real evidence.
It will probably be a lesser term than if you provide evidence of financial fraud though.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)than financial fraud.
Financial fraud doesn't seem to garner much jail time at all - especially if you're a 1 percenter.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)She isn't being forced to answer questions which might incriminate her.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...to answer a question which might incriminate her, i.e., "What's the hard drive password?"
I think the Fifth Amendment applies here.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I think that's one of those things which may fit the letter of the law, but not the spirit.
We'll see how it works out in the courts, not that I have any doubts.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm not sure I'd not use a key sequence that I had no idea as to what I used so I could say, Hey I don't know it, figure it out on your own because I honestly didn't keep track of what keys I used or where in the sequence I used it.
I may be typing out my asss as I've never encrypted anything, to my knowledge that is.
SB
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and the story linked to said clearly that this may be no different than offering the keys to your safe when there's a warrant for the contents.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I'm shocked that this ins't obvious.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)N7Shepard
(220 posts)"separate hard drive" and have it removed most of the time.
Or buy new hard drives every month or so and destroy the old ones.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)MattBaggins
(7,897 posts)when you can use a wiping program on your data?
Use an encryption system that requires a USB stick as a boondongle and then accidentally lose it.
RC
(25,592 posts)Use appropriately sized USB flash drives to store the data. They make them up to 256GB capacity.
FreeJoe
(1,039 posts)Use a program called TrueCrypt. It is free and open source. It creates a large file that you can use as an encrypted drive. The best part is that you can have it set aside a portion that is hidden and looks like unused space. So you put the stuff you don't mind them finding in the main area and the stuff you want private in the hidden area. There is no way for them to know whether you have a hidden area or not, so they can't force you to reveal the password (unless you leave other evidence that points to the existance of the hidden area).