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The fiscal cliff negotiations, in one chart (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2013 OP
Kicking the can down the road maxsolomon Jan 2013 #1
I don't support ProSense Jan 2013 #2
I support all that maxsolomon Jan 2013 #4
seems to me we need to raise taxes much higher than they were before the wars No Compromise Jan 2013 #3
We got plan B and people in the DU are cheering. Eddie Haskell Jan 2013 #5
No, ProSense Jan 2013 #7
We'll see what happens in two months. Eddie Haskell Jan 2013 #8
Thanks. Scurrilous Jan 2013 #6
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #9

maxsolomon

(33,246 posts)
1. Kicking the can down the road
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jan 2013

And 2 more years of another dysfunctional know-nothing congress, with a balanced budget disappearing over the horizon.

Feeling cynical today.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. I don't support
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jan 2013

"And 2 more years of another dysfunctional know-nothing congress, with a balanced budget disappearing over the horizon."

...a balanced budget. Still, anyone concerned with deficits should strongly push for four things:

1) Cutting defense and ending the war.

2) Strengthening health care with single payer in mind.

3) Increasing tax revenues.

4) Job creation and stimulus.

Growth and increasing revenues will go a long way to reducing the deficit.



maxsolomon

(33,246 posts)
4. I support all that
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jan 2013

But there is little will, if any, to even address the elephant in the room of Defense Spending. Hell, Willard Romney wanted to INCREASE it, and he wasn't laughed out of the race.

 

No Compromise

(373 posts)
3. seems to me we need to raise taxes much higher than they were before the wars
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jan 2013

to pay off the wars and the tax cuts during new Big Government programs like Homeland Security

What we have been talking about, the difference between what 1 %ers and 2%ers will have to pay....is absurd.

The idea we are just talking about ending the Bush tax cuts, but still pretending they didn't cause the problem in the first place....

we are in serious bizzaro land in the US.

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
5. We got plan B and people in the DU are cheering.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 2, 2013, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)

So the rich got a safety net and we won’t be pushed off the cliff till March. And you thought Obama was working for us.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. No,
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jan 2013

"We got plan B and people in the DU are cheering."

...Plan B has less tax revenue and nearly $120 billion in nasty cuts to social programs.

House Republicans Cut Food Stamps, Obamacare, And Wall Street Oversight In Ill-Fated ‘Plan B’
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/20/1367271/gop-spending-cuts-added-plan-b/

We got tax revenues and no cuts:

From the White House: 7 Things You Need to Know About the Deal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022118640

No spending cuts alone is worth cheering.

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
8. We'll see what happens in two months.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:42 PM
Jan 2013

The WH list is a bunch of half-truths and misrepresentations. Without any deal, taxes on the rich would have gone much higher. The spending cuts were just pushed down the road.

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