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William769

(55,144 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:32 PM Jan 2013

Obama Calls GOP's Conscience Clause Unnecessary, Ill-Advised

President Obama made clear on Wednesday while signing a new Defense budget that he doesn't agree with a Republican attempt to sidestep marriage equality that is tucked inside.

"Though I continue to oppose certain sections of the Act, the need to renew critical defense authorities and funding was too great to ignore," the president said in a statement upon signing the annual Defense Authorization Act.

Outgoing Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri largely failed in his final attempt in December to ban same-sex weddings on military bases and to stop military chaplains from officiating. His language passed through the Republican-led House but not the Senate and was mostly stripped during a conference between the two.

What remains, though, is Section 533. It is a "conscience clause" aimed at military chaplains that guarantees they can't be forced to officiate a same-sex wedding. The clause was widely attacked as a waste of time by LGBT activists and by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who pointed out that existing military policy already ensured officiating any wedding is voluntary.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/military/2013/01/03/obama-calls-gops-conscience-clause-unnecessary-ill-advised

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Obama Calls GOP's Conscience Clause Unnecessary, Ill-Advised (Original Post) William769 Jan 2013 OP
How about a line item veto? Dirty Socialist Jan 2013 #1
Unconstitutional. n/t tammywammy Jan 2013 #6
so Akin the big misogynist is a big a homophobe too Skittles Jan 2013 #2
It's what their party stands for. William769 Jan 2013 #3
Okay, question here.... rbixby Jan 2013 #4
Seems that way to me loyalsister Jan 2013 #5
I think so too rbixby Jan 2013 #7
It's a bigoted law loyalsister Jan 2013 #8
I don't think they should democrattotheend Jan 2013 #9

rbixby

(1,140 posts)
4. Okay, question here....
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jan 2013

should military chaplains be forced to do this? Are chaplains necessary for military weddings? I guess its probably unneccesary legislation because it would be covered under the first amendment, right?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. Seems that way to me
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jan 2013

I think there are plenty of reasons a chaplain might refuse to marry a heterosexual couple.

rbixby

(1,140 posts)
7. I think so too
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 06:33 PM
Jan 2013

You wouldn't expect a catholic priest to marry a jewish or muslim or protestant couple.....but I think its kind of ridiculous to have to make a law where its already pretty well been defined.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
9. I don't think they should
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jan 2013

I strongly support same sex marriage but I understand that some people feel differently for religious reasons and I think that has to be respected. I do not support forcing clergy to perform same-sex weddings, just like I would not support forcing any doctor to perform an abortion.

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