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*****SOTU OFFICIAL THREAD***** -- Thread 3 (Original Post) ellisonz Jan 2012 OP
Republicans sit on their hands for Obama's call for members of Congress to pay their fair share NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #1
Ban Congressional Insider trading! Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #9
The DO-NOTHING CONGRESS! Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #2
Nothing will get done. He's soooooo right. nt valerief Jan 2012 #3
"Can you blame them for feeling a little cynical?" ellisonz Jan 2012 #4
ty ellisonz nt blaze Jan 2012 #5
No prob. ellisonz Jan 2012 #8
This state of the union address is like hitting three grand slam homers in one game stevenleser Jan 2012 #6
Corrosive influence of money in Congress. So true. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #7
Kicking fucking ass! No wonder the three stooges stayed home! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #10
How can any American not love the guy? amuse bouche Jan 2012 #11
Who is that lone asshole booing the president? craigmatic Jan 2012 #12
I thought he was saying "Bravo!" DesertRat Jan 2012 #20
Thought so too. elleng Jan 2012 #25
Joe Whats-His-Name (R-SC) ThatsMyBarack Jan 2012 #49
From Twitter: "67% of that natural gas is inside Newt Gingrich." NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #13
LOL! highplainsdem Jan 2012 #16
FRACK Gingrich INdemo Jan 2012 #91
13, 16, 91 you guys are bringing tears to my eyes! I gotta find the youtube link to this video! freshwest Jan 2012 #118
He's already taken names! Skipped right to the good part! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #14
Ummmm....maybe he shouldn't have used the word "remote." Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #15
"We need to end the notion that the two parties must be locked in a perpetual campaign..." ellisonz Jan 2012 #17
He's really calling them out! Knicks007 Jan 2012 #18
Kagan's overdoing the "I can't show any emotion" look thing BeyondGeography Jan 2012 #19
Okay, now he's lecturing. I agree with what he says, but people don't like lectures. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #21
"We should all want a smarter more effective government." ellisonz Jan 2012 #22
"With or without this Congress, I will keep taking actions that help the economy grow" highplainsdem Jan 2012 #23
Did anybody notice whether Cantor applauded at his comment on Congressional insider trading? GoddessOfGuinness Jan 2012 #24
McConnell looks indignent. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #26
No kidding??? elleng Jan 2012 #31
You got me on that one. lol. Only wish I had spelled that correctly. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #124
Hey, no need; we KNOW!!! elleng Jan 2012 #125
Bohner doesn't applaud the words of Abraham Lincoln? musicblind Jan 2012 #27
saw that too irisblue Jan 2012 #37
Like Pelosi's new haircut. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #28
Me too. She looks great. n/t DesertRat Jan 2012 #35
Sounds like a wind-up nolabear Jan 2012 #29
I love how he praises Republicans and "competition" in schools slay Jan 2012 #30
Yirtle the Turtle...Pardon me, Mitch McConnell.. LongTomH Jan 2012 #32
Bwah! valerief Jan 2012 #36
And after he's done Turbineguy Jan 2012 #102
"In Syria, I have no doubt that the Assad regime..." ellisonz Jan 2012 #33
...but in Bahrain moodforaday Jan 2012 #126
He mentioned that he got Khadaffi rocktivity Jan 2012 #34
Iran - good pt. world in agreement about that, now. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #38
Our amuse bouche Jan 2012 #39
"Let there be no doubt..." ellisonz Jan 2012 #40
WHat are you applauding? moodforaday Jan 2012 #127
You don't seem to appreciate... ellisonz Jan 2012 #128
From Twitter: "Suggestion that government should be leaner is a blatant attack on Gingrich" NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #41
Haha. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #52
Pandering to the warmongers now. joshcryer Jan 2012 #42
IMHO to say that the military option is off-the-table... ellisonz Jan 2012 #45
it makes my heart sink into my stomach FirstLight Jan 2012 #56
Obama didn't vote for the Iraq war. ellisonz Jan 2012 #61
Yep slay Jan 2012 #46
60% of American's wanna attack Iran. joshcryer Jan 2012 #59
I hear ya slay Jan 2012 #70
He did mention peace negotiations, which I think is smart. The difference between him Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #108
There is a definite contrast between the parties slay Jan 2012 #109
I disagree with you. I think we can push the president to be MORE peace seeking and less Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #114
The last 3 years hasn't worked out so well for us slay Jan 2012 #116
Yes, let's hope and pray while keeping the president honest through our activism. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #117
It has nothing to do with his personal feelings about war. woo me with science Jan 2012 #129
I agree with you completely slay Jan 2012 #130
Yes, my point woo me with science Jan 2012 #131
Well, when he drumbeats for more bullshit wars people tend to start threads about it. Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #47
What is "drumbeating" about "peaceful solution"? joshcryer Jan 2012 #54
Yes! Israel is our close ally! Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #43
Eric Cantor Johnny2X2X Jan 2012 #44
Scheming to stick it to Boehner Turbineguy Jan 2012 #95
YEAH! Skinner Jan 2012 #48
Just to contextualize... ellisonz Jan 2012 #78
An excellent line Alcibiades Jan 2012 #88
Boehner will need an extra quart of booze tonight to get to sleep. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #50
Bam....another hit...keeping America strong in a new world! Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #51
Well they can't say he's being an apologist for America nolabear Jan 2012 #53
Another troops standing ovation. Those people don't give the troops a thought usually. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #55
This is an *ss-kicking. So pleased... sfpcjock Jan 2012 #57
A Veterans Jobs Corp -- great idea! highplainsdem Jan 2012 #58
Wooodamnwhoo! Damn Straight! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #60
YAY!!! Gay servicepeople!!! nolabear Jan 2012 #62
Boner just grimaced...didja hear that sound...that's his sphincter clenching. Snarkoleptic Jan 2012 #63
Good luck with that rebuttal speech tonight, Republicans. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #64
It will be tough to top this, or rebut anything he says OKNancy Jan 2012 #68
Probably someone with the capacity for ignoring facts and reality Matariki Jan 2012 #71
Jack...er Mitch Daniels bagimin Jan 2012 #73
Mitch Daniels Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #76
Brilliant metaphor! "All that mettered was the mission." nolabear Jan 2012 #65
"This nation is great because we get eachothers backs." ellisonz Jan 2012 #66
It's sad and pathetic that a president has to remind congress that we are all americans. Fuzz Jan 2012 #67
+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #84
BRILLIANT conclusion! highplainsdem Jan 2012 #69
Okay. I'm officially ferklempt. nolabear Jan 2012 #72
PAU HANA TIME!!! ellisonz Jan 2012 #74
WOO HOOOOO! A success! Now we'll starting hearing all the criticisms everywhere..... Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #75
Hehe. Good job! sfpcjock Jan 2012 #85
There's the United States of America BeyondGeography Jan 2012 #77
Mitt and Newt look reallllllllllllllly small right now. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #79
Flawless victory n/t musicblind Jan 2012 #80
Chris Matthews: The speech says "look out I can fight." ellisonz Jan 2012 #81
.. and I know where you live :) Rosco T. Jan 2012 #97
Once again...you can hear what they're saying on the CNN feed. nt Phoonzang Jan 2012 #82
Great...now's time for McConnell to do his little tap dance. Snarkoleptic Jan 2012 #83
Mitch McTurtle, lol sfpcjock Jan 2012 #101
That was great malaise Jan 2012 #86
Agreed. ellisonz Jan 2012 #94
A thing of beauty. tabatha Jan 2012 #87
Agreed. ellisonz Jan 2012 #115
Great Speech erpowers Jan 2012 #89
Fantastic SOTU speech by President Obama n/t Digit Jan 2012 #90
Peggy Noonan...."a speech about everything is a speech about nothing" Demonaut Jan 2012 #92
And she was drunk, I assume. vanlassie Jan 2012 #93
Really desperate. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #96
That's weak. Skinner Jan 2012 #98
Oo, she skeeves the hell out of me. nt valerief Jan 2012 #100
Peggy Who? Does anyone still listen to her? She who had the hots for Saint Ronnie? Get lost Peg. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #104
WTF? Every SOTU is about a range of topics. NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #106
She also accused him of focusing on "I, I, I," because he said what HE would do. tblue37 Jan 2012 #112
thanks god her input got no traction with her fellow commentators Demonaut Jan 2012 #122
Great night Robbins Jan 2012 #99
*****GOP REPSONSE OFFICIAL THREAD***** ellisonz Jan 2012 #103
Yes he did. He had me from the opening line. Dang he rocked tonight. Best SOTU since Clinton at yellowcanine Jan 2012 #105
Mitch Daniels is a Republican all star? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2012 #107
Current TV recap and commentary by Keith sfpcjock Jan 2012 #110
President Obama should simply call the bluff on Mitch Daniel's speech. ncteechur Jan 2012 #113
Good nite, Mr. President... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #111
I'm feeling a lot more optimistic about our country's future after he spoke..... BlueDemKev Jan 2012 #119
Loved it!! Obamacare Jan 2012 #120
Me too. ellisonz Jan 2012 #121
OKAY! Watching the enhanced version at this link. The Graphics on the right side PROVE IT ALL! freshwest Jan 2012 #123

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
1. Republicans sit on their hands for Obama's call for members of Congress to pay their fair share
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jan 2012

in taxes.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. This state of the union address is like hitting three grand slam homers in one game
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jan 2012

Rockin and Barackin!

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
11. How can any American not love the guy?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jan 2012


He's so personable and has so much common sense

Now, if he would just sing a few lines of Al Green, the republicowns heads would explode.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
17. "We need to end the notion that the two parties must be locked in a perpetual campaign..."
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jan 2012

"...of mutual destruction."

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
22. "We should all want a smarter more effective government."
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jan 2012
that it's necessary.

Mitch McConnell looks confused.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
32. Yirtle the Turtle...Pardon me, Mitch McConnell..
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jan 2012

looks like he's trying to shit something large and jagged!

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
33. "In Syria, I have no doubt that the Assad regime..."
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jan 2012

"will discover that the forces of change cannot be reversed, and that human dignity will not be denied."

moodforaday

(1,860 posts)
126. ...but in Bahrain
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jan 2012

he will let the government slaughter its people some more, with a little help from the friendly Saudi neighbor. But then, Obama hearts the government of Bahrain, even if they mow down protesting citizens with automatic rifles.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
40. "Let there be no doubt..."
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jan 2012

"America is determined to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. I will take no options off the table from achieving that goal. But a peaceful resolution of this issue is still possible, and far better."

moodforaday

(1,860 posts)
127. WHat are you applauding?
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:04 PM
Jan 2012

That he is threatening another war? Or that the story of Saddam's WMDs is repeating itself right there? Iran is not making a nuclear weapon, or at least there is no proof that they are. IAEA says that, even Israel says that (!), but Obama wants Iran to stop doing something they are not doing.

Iran has not attacked another country in 250 (two hundred and fifty) years. Iran is no threat to anyone, but is itself being threatened: get a map and see how Iran has been surrounded by US military bases and US-controlled regimes. Imagine you are responsible for the safety of Iranian citizens. Would you feel safe?

A few months forth, are you really going to believe yet again that war is the only option left?

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
128. You don't seem to appreciate...
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jan 2012

...the precarious nature of our politics in that region of the world.

Iran has armed Hezbollah and Hamas.

Iran is positioning itself to make a nuclear weapon.

(that's all, but thanks for kicking this puppy back up.)

Poor, poor, poor theocratic Iran that brutalizes its own young people...

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
42. Pandering to the warmongers now.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jan 2012

Meh.

At least he said peace was preferable. I await the threads on "Obama's drumbeating on Iran" though.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
45. IMHO to say that the military option is off-the-table...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

...only emboldens Rick Santorum, who is a far greater threat to freedom than Iran.

FirstLight

(13,355 posts)
56. it makes my heart sink into my stomach
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:11 PM
Jan 2012


and I also have a hard timne hearing him talk about syria, when i keep thinking about the OWS people and the police state breaking skulls

dammitt, I really like some of this, but the war and military state stuff makes me cringe

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
61. Obama didn't vote for the Iraq war.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jan 2012

Starting a pissing contest with mayors and police chiefs just wasn't going to happen...

Sometimes we all just have to be realistic.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
46. Yep
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

he's better than the Repubs - but this kind of shit makes me see just how narrow the gap between the two pro-corporate parties are.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
59. 60% of American's wanna attack Iran.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:12 PM
Jan 2012

He has to pander to those idiots to get elected. I don't blame him, I blame the right wing country we live in.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
108. He did mention peace negotiations, which I think is smart. The difference between him
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012

and the neocon wing nuts is that they want war for profit and because they hate!

I truly believe that the president means well and is not a warmonger.

ETA: He also mentioned that the money that we're no longer spending on wars should be put to our infrastructure and jobs program.

I do think there is a stark contrast between the two major political parties.

As I sit here, struggling to stay awake while listening to Mitch Daniels, that difference should be abundantly clear.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
109. There is a definite contrast between the parties
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:36 PM
Jan 2012

just not as much of one as there should be - we basically have no party to the left of center-right, which is what the Dems are.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
114. I disagree with you. I think we can push the president to be MORE peace seeking and less
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jan 2012

hawkish, but it's also going to require a change in this blood thirsty American culture.

After all that we have accomplished on the international front, Americans still are convinced that Republicans are better on foreign policy. That is astonishing to me. It's going to take some time for people to understand that going to war isn't always the answer. We can no longer afford to be the "police man" of the world. Our economy is dying.

I really do believe that Obama is not a warmonger.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
116. The last 3 years hasn't worked out so well for us
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:53 PM
Jan 2012

but I don't think he's a warmonger either - and i certainly can never vote repub - so we'll just have to hope he does better in his second term. Every post I post about Obama is trying to push things to the left pretty much - here and many other places around the interwebs. I don't have much faith in the intelligence of the American people though, sad to say.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
129. It has nothing to do with his personal feelings about war.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

It has to do with money.

The Military Industrial Complex is fundamental to the profit and power of the one percent. It will be defended at all costs, until we get the money of the one percent out of our government.

 

slay

(7,670 posts)
130. I agree with you completely
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:55 AM
Jan 2012

still - Obama did it - so it is on him to a degree - but no, I in no way think he is a war monger - that is definitely the pentagon, MIC, and the repubs.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
131. Yes, my point
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:48 AM
Jan 2012

was not that he does not hold moral responsibility. Of course there is a clear moral responsibility to oppose these outrages, and he has abdicated that.

But all this discussion of politicians' personal feelings misses the point that there is a much larger systemic problem and financial juggernaut driving these policies. Until people understand that, they will continue to fall for the spin.

Johnny2X2X

(18,968 posts)
44. Eric Cantor
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

The look on his face made it easy to know exactly what he was thinking, "Oh, Shit".

The GOP is toast.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
64. Good luck with that rebuttal speech tonight, Republicans.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:14 PM
Jan 2012

Who's the designated chump that gets to deliver it tonight?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
71. Probably someone with the capacity for ignoring facts and reality
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:16 PM
Jan 2012

which gives them a large pool to pick from really.

Snarkoleptic

(5,996 posts)
83. Great...now's time for McConnell to do his little tap dance.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:20 PM
Jan 2012

Warning..R rated clip of a tortoise banging a shoe.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
94. Agreed.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:23 PM
Jan 2012

In basketball, there's now a common term called "posterized" - basically dunking so hard into the body and face of a defender, that it should be on a bedroom poster.

Barack Obama "posterized" the GOP tonight. *double shaka*

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
89. Great Speech
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:21 PM
Jan 2012

This was President Obama's best SOTU. It was a very inspiring speech. This is one of those speeches that makes you think you do not know how he cannot get reelected.

tblue37

(65,215 posts)
112. She also accused him of focusing on "I, I, I," because he said what HE would do.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:44 PM
Jan 2012

I remember when comedian David Steinberg told Johnny Carson about a nasty review of his stand-up routine that complained he focused too much on himself. The title of the review was "David Steinberg: 'Me, Me, Me." Steinberg said, "Um, I'm a stand-up comic. My whole routine is about my experiences and observations. What a I supposed to say?--'A funny thing happened to your wife on the way to the theater'?"

Noonan criticized Obama for using the word "I" when explaining what he would and would not do.

She is ridiculous.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
122. thanks god her input got no traction with her fellow commentators
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:15 AM
Jan 2012

they ignored her.....rightfully so

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
99. Great night
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jan 2012

He hit right tone,and has some good proposels.Yes we know Republicans will do nothing.But,this Is really the start of reelection
Campagin.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
105. Yes he did. He had me from the opening line. Dang he rocked tonight. Best SOTU since Clinton at
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:31 PM
Jan 2012

least. And maybe better than any of his. Newt and Mitt look mighty small in contrast.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,711 posts)
107. Mitch Daniels is a Republican all star?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jan 2012

He comes off more like a human sleeping pill. This guy makes Phil Graham sound exciting

ncteechur

(3,071 posts)
113. President Obama should simply call the bluff on Mitch Daniel's speech.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:45 PM
Jan 2012

No more SS benefits to anyone over $1million and SS taxes on every dollar of income-regardless of earned or unearned.

No more medicare benefits to any senior with income over $1million dollars.

Close all loopholes on corporations and anyone making over $1million dollars.

No difference between earned and unearned income for millionaires. Pay taxes on all money.

etc etc.


Mitch Daniels is a liar.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
111. Good nite, Mr. President...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:43 PM
Jan 2012

...and thank you.

Thank you for making me proud, hopeful and enthusiastic about the future of our country. We will still face the obstruction and lies, but at least we know you have our back, as we have yours.

And, thank you for making me think of a SOTU with a Newt or Mittens whacking off to whichever war they've started or giving shout outs to their billionaire buddies.

OBAMA '12!!!!!!

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
119. I'm feeling a lot more optimistic about our country's future after he spoke.....
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:05 AM
Jan 2012

....and things could really improve in our country in the long term if this Congress would actually enact some of the ideas he laid out.

Obama/Biden 2012!

 

Obamacare

(277 posts)
120. Loved it!!
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:06 AM
Jan 2012

He nailed it again! There is no way Mittens or Noot can compete with Obama. I'm sorry, they lack charisma, intelligence and the ability to actually care about all Americans. Obama2012!!

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
121. Me too.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:10 AM
Jan 2012

"There is no way Mittens or Noot can compete with Obama." - Ain't that the truth. The only way they succeed is through spreading fear and ignorance.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
123. OKAY! Watching the enhanced version at this link. The Graphics on the right side PROVE IT ALL!
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jan 2012

Under Democratic rule, the highest standard of living and when Reagan got in, it all went to hell.
Check the graphics, the facts are there:



I'll cross post this in videos so other can watch it directly on DU! Go Obama!



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