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I think we have a LEADER in the Senate
Earlier this week, it was reported that AIG would reward taxpayers for their $182 billion bailout by suing the government over the terms of the rescue.
Bold progressive Elizabeth Warren immediately called out AIG and condemned its behavior:
Beginning in 2008, the federal government poured billions of dollars into AIG to save it from bankruptcy. AIGs reckless bets nearly crashed our entire economy. Taxpayers across this country saved AIG from ruin, and it would be outrageous for this company to turn around and sue the federal government because they think the deal wasnt generous enough, said Warren in a statement. Even today, the government provides an ongoing, stealth bailout, propping up AIG with special tax breaks tax breaks that Congress should stop. AIG should thank American taxpayers for their help, not bite the hand that fed them for helping them out in a crisis.
Politico reports this afternoon that AIGs board met and decided not to join the lawsuit being considered, representing an early victory for Warren and, by extension, American taxpayers.
Read more: http://boldprogressives.org/after-elizabeth-warren-calls-them-out-aig-drops-its-threat-of-suing-the-government/
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)But still well worth smacking down - go good for Elizabeth Warren.
Bryant
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)likely look forward to these kinds of ass-kickings throughout the year!
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Her election was the best investment that we've made in a very long time.
Senator Warren is great for the bottom line.
Report1212
(661 posts)otherone
(973 posts)4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Some congressmen are not waiting for AIG to come to a conclusion as it is weighing the possibility of suing the U.S. government.
They want to be on the record now: Its a bad idea.
Peter Welch, (D., Vt.), and Michael Capuano, (D., Mass.), have sent a short letter to AIGs Chairman Robert Miller warning him, in stark language, that they dont think the board should even think of suing the U.S.
UPDATE: Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D. Ill.) has joined his fellow members of the member of the Houses Committee on Financial Services to sign the letter, Welchs office says.
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2013/01/08/congressmen-to-aig-dont-do-it-dont-even-think-about-it/?mod=google_news_blog
sometime du with its hero du jour baby adulation makes me puke.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Indykatie
(3,696 posts)Warren's comment was bolder than I am used to hearing coming from our Dems so I applaud her.
cali
(114,904 posts)and Grijalva signed. It's even stronger. And it's on record as a letter to AIG.
Dear Mr. Miller:
According to The New York Times, AIG is actively considering suing the U.S. government for monetary damages after American taxpayers rescued your company from its reckless conduct with a $182 billion bailout.
Dont do it.
Dont even think about it.
AIG became the poster company for Wall Street greed, fiscal mismanagement, and executive bonuses the taxpayer and economy be damned.
Now, AIG apparently seeks to become the poster company for corporate ingratitude and chutzpah.
Taxpayers are still furious that they rescued a company whose own conduct brought it down. Dont rub salt in the wounds with yet another reckless decision that is on par with the reckless decisions that led to the bailout in the first place.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)isn't quite as impressive as Elizabeth Warren's in-your-face call-out of the outrageous stupidity.
You should be proud of her.
cali
(114,904 posts)the others signed on to it. And it was stronger than her comments and sent directly to the source as a warning. Sure I'm glad she made her comments. I'm no prouder of her than I am of Welch.
0rganism
(23,944 posts)I'm not seeing how appreciation for one action has to diminish regard for the other.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)BACKBONE TO DEMs ----- IIIIIIIIII'me Heeeee-eeeeere!!
cali
(114,904 posts)for AIG deciding not to sue, to Warren. Really, what irritates me and always has done is the DU predilection for mindless slavering adulation. Can't stand it. In any case, anyone with two or more functioning brain cells knew that it was exceedingly unlikely that AIG was going to partner with Greenberg in this law suit.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)People are acting like she single handedly stopped AIG from trying to sue the government. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if AIG decided not to for other reasons... like not having an actual case and/or not wanting to deal with the backlash over such a stupid and disgusting move.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Grow up, crabbypants. Geeze.
joeunderdog
(2,563 posts)Warren has just ruined everything.
My favorite Senator.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)Thank you, Massachusetts voters!
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Sounds to me like she is going to be a force to be reckoned with in the Senate.
I think she has a very bright political future ahead of her.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)..
calimary
(81,220 posts)It wasn't much, but I sent it. California loves her too! And even though she represents the people of Massachusetts, I feel like she's America's Senator. She represents consumers EVERYWHERE!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)It might have been in the news for weeks.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Crazy.
Who knew that fighting works better than capitulation and triangulation?
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I suck at organizing stuff like thst.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)regardless of the consequences. They are unconcerned about the morality of their actions. They hire PR flacks to peddle their greed ain't greed it's (fill in the blank) for them.
sheshe2
(83,747 posts)They are ill informed,nasty leeches on the butt of America!
They will rue the day that they treated Elizabeth Warren this way:
Warren, appointed by President Barack Obama to implement the consumer watchdog mandated by last year's Dodd-Frank financial reform law, testified at a House Oversight subcommittee hearing dubbed "Who's Watching the Watchmen?"
But those overseers seemed to lack the basic facts about the new agency they were trying to oversee, with the hearing dissolving at the end in a remarkable dispute over how long Warren was supposed to testify.
(SCROLL DOWN FOR VIDEO)
Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R-N.Y.) betrayed the first misunderstanding, quizzing Warren on why people getting hired at the CFPB earned better salaries than the average government employee. Warren eventually noted that federal financial regulators are usually paid better (but not very well compared to the people they regulate).
Rep. Frank Guinta (R-N.H.) mistakenly thought the CFPB was unique among financial regulators in having a leader with a five-year term and in not being subject to annual congressional appropriations -- neither of which is true.
A lot more here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/elizabeth-warren-liar-gop-facts-cfpb_n_866505.html
They have no clue what they are in for. Elizabeth Warren will a force to be reckoned with.They are not going to know what hit them Go Senator Warren!
supercats
(429 posts)Just keep mowing down all the injustices done to our social society, courtesy of "our friends" on the other side of the aisle. They have no shame, and deserve to be taken to the proverbial woodshed repeatedly. Thank god you are a Senator now!!!
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)I hope she's as true as she seems.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)She is going to kick ass! Go Elizabeth!
Claybrains
(132 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)See, THIS is what it looks like when our elected representatives REALLY REPRESENT the true
interests of the public. What a great beginning act to her Senate career.
GO ELIZABETH!!
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... Elizabeth Warren landed on her feet in the Senate. She does not have to go thru some freshman Senator "keep your mouth shut" period. I salute her!
toby jo
(1,269 posts)shit
ellie
(6,929 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)a newbie Senator.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I want to live in Massachusetts.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Pretty please?
BattyDem
(11,075 posts)I LOVE this woman!
SacoMaine61
(114 posts)serious about joining it...
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/09/168926031/aig-considers-joining-greenbergs-bailout-lawsuit
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What they've tried to signal is that they want to take this whole idea of fulfilling its duty to shareholders very seriously. But I think reading through the tea leaves, the board would be really hard-pressed to go ahead and join this lawsuit. And as one professor we spoke to basically says, slap taxpayers in the face. AIG, its board and its CEO, Bob Benmosche, have definitely had a keen eye on the politics and the public reaction and that's why they've taken a lot of steps to thank taxpayers, say that we're going to repay taxpayers. And you'd have to assume they are very cognizant of what might happen if they decide to go ahead and join Mr. Greenberg in his lawsuit. But they want to at least show that they are very conscious of their duty to shareholders, even if they may ultimately decide not to join the lawsuit.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)srican69
(1,426 posts)He is a total asshole ..
He makes us wear suits even when it 100 degrees outside (the only exception is when he goes vacationning ).... I have seen him a couple times in the lobby at 399 park avenue
Basically he feels that he was robbed by the feds - talk about feeling entitled. This guy is so out of control - his wife once called the company helpdesk to change the batteries in her TV remote ... He made AT&T install a cell phone tower close to where he goes boating and guess what - AT&T complied - PRONTO!!!
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)My guess is that the officers and maybe a couple of the directors thought that joining the lawsuit would have been really stupid. It would have brought the wrath of the administration and many members of congress down on AIG, and it might have been cited as a reason for not helping AIG in the future should it need another bailout, which I hate to think it might need.
Opposition by management and some directors in this case would not be principled, but would be totally pragmatic.
My guess is that the AIG management and their allied directors knew that public outrage would follow disclosure. Directors sometimes are aligned with shareholders and sometimes more with management. Large shareholder groups often get "their" directors nominated for the board, and nomination usually means election.
Directors aligned with shareholders will push for every 0.001% of profit next quarter no matter what the cost to everything else. Such shareholders will often start lawsuits, usually in Delaware where most large U.S. companies are incorporated. There may have been a threat by large shareholders that if management did not join the existing suit their,the shareholders' directors (who may be a majority), would throw management out for not extracting sufficient "shareholder value".
Under Delaware law, I suspect (I'm a FORMER corporate atty) that management can still point to an interest in longer term results which they believe might be harmed by pissing off the federal government as a reason for not joining in the lawsuit filed by other financial institutions. What better way to prove that than by announcing the possible action and waiting for governmental figures to object?
Warren and Welch, et al., did not hesitate to jump all over the announcement, thus providing evidence of the validity of management's views to the AIG board of directors giving them cover to directors to do what management wants.
The scary thing about my theorizing here, is that management may believe that AIG might need more help from the feds in the future. That might mean that for AIG financial crisis was not resolved by the TARP and other federal reserve bailouts or that AIG has loaded itself up with toxic credit default swaps once again or that AIG is very much exposed in Europe where the most obvious problems are now occurring.
I apologize for not making the most sense here--I joined happy hour a little early.
On edit, the public doesn't often see this level of maneuvering. Something is obviously wrong here. Remember, AIG's board of directors is meeting shortly.
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)she hasn't been in the Senate a full month!
Theyletmeeatcake2
(348 posts)Maybe a private equity white knight was in the wings........get the lube ready