RW facebook friend complains about lack of services

[Courtesy Flush]

They can't get anybody to inspect a boat trailer (apparently the State Police have to come to your home for this), and she can't get anymore unemployment benefits. Yet they consistently toe the party line about other people wanting stuff from the government.

Vote for budget cuts, and this is what happens.

[1StrongBlackMan]

1. Did you remind her of this? n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

2. Ditto 1StrongBlackMan

[Courtesy Flush]

8. Yes I did. nt

[Cane4Dems]

14. and how did she respond once you reminded her?

sorry to pry but im just very curious haha

[Courtesy Flush]

15. Still waiting for a reply. nt

[Zookeeper]

36. You may be waiting for a while. n/t

[Courtesy Flush]

43. I got a reply

She blamed Obama. I pointed out that Obama has no say over State Police, and that our Republican governor (Jindal) has made excessive cuts.

Her husband then chimed in complaining about regulations in general.

[Zookeeper]

44. Well, at least they replied. I wonder how they'd react if...

Someone's boat trailer came loose and crushed the front of their car? Probably Obama's fault.

[lunasun]

51. yep you know it!

[bluemarkers]

61. since you posted this, I've seen 3 complaints!

One was about budget cuts to schools.... we live in NC, I wanted to posted hang on to your hats, the ride downhill is just getting started!

Two others were complaints about the federal budget. I did respond to one pointing out that Democrats implemented and supported Social Security and Medicare. That the crazy teabilly party was holding the country hostage. I got called a baby killer and was told it's Al Gore's fault???

You can't argue with crazy, so I ended with a bless your hearts....

seriously. crazy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. I reminded a RW neighbor of the cuts he gladly voted for

When the cops took eight hours to come take a non emergency report...he's not said a word since.

[freshwest]

19. +1

[Angry Dragon]

4. Perhaps it is time to open a blinder store for republicans

could create a ton of jobs

[closeupready]

5. Serves her right.

K&R

[gollygee]

6. Yep. Small government means, well, less government

And not just for people poorer and/or darker than you, though that's who they're hoping it's about.

I'm trying to think of people I personally know who are into this whole Tea Party nonsense who HAVEN'T used some kind of government assistance, and I can't think of any. One only used food stamps. One used food stamps and I think housing assistance (?) too at some point. I remember her thanking God for providing housing assistance and I remember telling her that it wasn't God, it was Big Government that did that. LOL. And the neighbor has used at least food stamps as well. It might be coincidence that all the ones I know have used assistance as I don't know that many of them.

But THEY really need it! They aren't the ones "abusing the system." (/sarcasm) The code language here in Michigan is that it's "people from Detroit" who "abuse the system." You can connect the dots there. And yes, trust me, I call them on that.

I really believe the Tea Party is more about race than anything else, though I'll admit that is colored by the people I know who follow it.

[Courtesy Flush]

16. And another friend just posted about guns

I don't want to stir anything up, but I was tempted to say "YES! Let's call out all those Tea Party patriots who are getting food stamps!"

[freshwest]

20. You should add, all those getting SS and VA, homestead tax exemptions. Make it clear it's everyone.

[bulloney]

25. There's a website that lists farm program recipients and amount received. That's an eye-opener.

Without fail, the top recipients of federal farm program money are the same people who never miss a chance to spout out their RW "get the government out of agriculture" rhetoric. Yet, they feel a need to sign up and receive the very programs they slam when talking among their peers. And the ones who talk the loudest are at or near the top of the list in terms of the amount of federal program dollars received.

[rurallib]

33. Lots of senators on that list - like my Senator Grassley

Only he seems to live in Virginia, not Iowa.
And his family has only touched for a million or so.

[freshwest]

37. In the red rural part of my state there were these huge billboards degrading welfare, etc.

When the ownership of the land and the subsidies they recieved was checked out by disgusted passerby, it turned out they were the real welfare kings and queens. This is the part that gets to me, about the division being preached by demagogues.

We are all paying for things we don't like according to our personal quirks. Like some don't want to pay for the MIC, for police, abortion, to subsidize big farms, pharma, energy and other businesses. We all pay for things we don't like, and pay for things we do.

The reason is, we accept all these things make a whole which is WethePeople. People we never met whose lives are as important and valuable in the big scheme of things. We can argue the points, but to deny they have needs or talents we don't know and don't want to know, is wrong.

And it's really out there to see people who are benefiting from government, which means, the nameless masses of people one doesn't know who paid into the system, deny them the same rights.

[Tsiyu]

24. Lol

OMG that is one of the funniest things I've seen.

Cuz you just KNOW all those food stamp recipients are gonna use their EBT cards to KILL people!

And of course, when they release the "list," NO teabillies will be on Food stamps, or will be getting Ag subsidies or SS disability. In their TEabagger Fantasy world, NO teabaggers are "sponging off the gubbmint!"



The stupid....it BURNS....

[nxylas]

27. Of course not

In their world, only African-Americans receive food stamps. Except they wouldn't use the phrase "African-Americans".

[frylock]

48. post a list of all the red states that are overwhelming beneficiaries of such entitlements

[MADem]

52. He'd probably be shocked to see all his griping buddies on those lists he wants. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

59. If not, ...

He'll have to figure out a way to get HIS name off the list.

[nc4bo]

7. Same thing from a 'winger neighbor we know....now is complaining her SNAPS benefits have been

significantly reduced because she just recently got a job as a home healthcare aid.........part time. She said she needs those benefits to feed her family.

I know it sounds cruel but hubby and I told her and her NObama idiot bf to suck it up, you voted for the other guy and for the new teabagger Guv'nr, yall talked trash about Obama being a socialist (code for a black man), etc. So suck it up, pull up your bootstraps and try not to trip on your personal pile of hypocritical BS.

Hubby then warned them that it's all about to get much worse best get used to it.

[Fresh_Start]

9. You should very nicely congratulate her on the success of her politics.

Not many people get what they want from government, she wanted less services and she got them.

[avebury]

18. LOL!

[closeupready]

31. Yeah, seriously. I remember once

having a conversation with a friend who complained about welfare recipients. She owned a home, so I asked her if she filed for the mortgage interest deduction?

She didn't complain about welfare after that conversation. LOL

[msanthrope]

10. Where ya' been? Nice to see you back! And tell your friend she has the government she

voted for.

[1StrongBlackMan]

11. There's one guy ...

that frequently posts that teaparty "small government" crap to my daily rag's on-line comment section, despite his have been unemployed for as best I can figure the past 3 years.

My response to any/everything he posts is: "So ... How's the job search going?"

[ReRe]

12. Tell her to just sell...

...her boat and boat trailer.

[reverend_tim]

13. No more unemployment benefits, may be time to sell that boat.

[aquart]

17. Don't like the small government they voted for?

Me, either.

[samsingh]

21. repug stupidity

[adieu]

22. I have a RW FB friend

who I know from High School. He's totally the anti-government, pro-gun, anti-union, religious zealot person we see so stereotypically presented here.

Yet, he joined the Navy after high school, learned how to conduct fire suppression in the Navy and after retiring from the Navy (pension), is now working at a Fire Department and will retire soon (mandatory retirement at some reasonably young age). This guy has never worked outside the government in his life, save for possibly a few months' stint at a McDonalds or something in high school. He's got a powerful union, the Fire Fighters' Union, to support his nice salary and overtime pay and a great pension when he retires.

He's the very person he is denouncing!

[Populist_Prole]

23. I hear the same crap from RW-ers I know

What I really can't understand; I mean I'm really scratching my head here, is: How in the world can somebody with an intelligence level even on the lower side of average NOT see the irony of their desires even before karma comes back and bites them in the ass? Even factoring in their hatred of "the other". I mean, it takes just a few seconds if you think it through.

[Wait Wut]

26. I'm surrounded by them.

Most of my friends are Republicans (I live in the damnedest reddest town in AZ). One complains constantly about the 'takers' and she's on gov't. assistance. Another complains about too many regulations (in general) and makes a living enforcing those same regulations. My boss thinks he's a Libertarian (he doesn't know what it means) but complains about the lack of building code enforcements, lack of environmental protections, etc., etc., etc.

I spend the majority of my life rolling my eyes and banging my head against walls. It's bad for my health, but the husband won't move back to Chicago.

[Courtesy Flush]

29. Has Arizona always been so crazy?

It seems like it's only been in recent years that I've seen so much right wing zealotry in AZ. Have I just not noticed before?

I'm in a Slave State, so we've been mired in it since we joined the union (and then left it, then joined it again).

[Wait Wut]

30. No, it hasn't.

When I first lived here, back in '90, it was purple. More and more seniors moved in, young people and families moved out. It just keeps getting older, meaner and more crazy. Just look at our Governor.

There is some hope, however. We have a huge (and growing) Hispanic community that is solid Democratic and they're pissed off. Voting for them is made as difficult as possible, but we're doing what we can to ensure their rights are protected.

The biggest problem is money. The rich in this state are RW and they have nothing better to do than buy elections and shit on the rest of the state. I've stopped donating to our county Dem. party after 2 viable Democratic candidates got next to nothing in support. Now, I donate direct to candidates. Oh, and our Democratic politicians aren't the cream of the crop, either. It's very often a 'hold your nose' voting process. Not always, but often.

[1StrongBlackMan]

60. Fortunately ...

I live in Pima County, where the (elected officials) Democrats are mostly Democrats and the republicans have a nodding aquaintance with sanity ... though Pima County does have a very loud contingent of teapartiers.

But there is hope for Pima County, if not the entire state ... As I mentioned earlier, I attended a social event where there were several "high profile" (non-politician) republicans (read: Business Leaders). A common thread in my conversations was their indicating that the "We (the non-political gop class) have to convince the gop (elected officials, if not the base) to move away from partisanship and move towards during what is best for Pima County."

I can't believe that if they are willing to have this conversation with me ... someone who, clearly and makes no pretense of being in their base, these conversation aren't happening throughout the state.

[Skidmore]

64. Do you ever point those alternate views of their lives out to them?

I've gotten to the point that I don't bother to be nice to people who whine like that. I ask them where they think the money comes to pay for those services?

[Courtesy Flush]

72. Yes, and it gets tiring

Just now, another one posted about "entitlements" being nothing more than handouts. I said that the same is true for corporate handouts. She told me this was different, because corporations pay taxes.

I said "You haven't been keeping up with the news. Some corporations not only pay zero taxes, they have a negative tax rate, meaning they get more from the gov than they pay.

But if you're going to use that line of argument, then remember that welfare and food stamp recipients also pay taxes. Many have jobs, and all pay sales tax. I'd say most of them pay more taxes than companies like GE do. Anything above $zero is more than GE."

There's no end to it, though. You get tired of arguing. I'm a former RWer myself, and I was turned around. My wife clings to her RW beliefs, but she's losing faith, and didn't vote for Romney. There's hope, I guess, but they really resist logic.

That Sandy Hook conspiracy video has them all in a lather again.

[Irishonly]

28. Right wingers always do

If they need it or some one they like needs help then it's fine. If anyone else does they are bums.

[erpowers]

32. I Do Not Get It

I do not understand how people like the person you discussed can oppose government programs and support small government candidates, who claim they will cut government programs, but then those same individuals complain when the government programs they use get cut. Do these people think there are people in the government who go around examining the people who use government programs and that those people will come to them and say, "you need your government program money so we will let you keep your money and benefits; however, that family down the street does not need the government money they are using so we are taking it from them"?

[We People]

70. Pretty clear case of "Cognitive Dissonance," I'd say. They've swallowed the Faux/Rethug/Teaparty

propaganda for so long, which demononizes "the other" to the extent that it leaves no room for compassion and understanding that THEY could actually be in that situation. When that happens, it just doesn't "fit" and they can't put it all together because they've been conditioned to compartmentalize and demonize others.

Their REAL dilemma is that they're stuck in a moral conundrum - facing the fact that the hatred that has been nurtured and fanned by the propagandists have made them vote against their own interests. Or, in short:

*Their HATRED - of people who have some of the same needs that they do - has come back to bite them.*

[d_r]

34. I know some public school teachers

Who will say that civil service workers are overworked and underpaid. Then cheer on spending cuts.

[DaveJ]

35. Repukes are such whiners, with no solutions.

Repukes are actually the cause of most of the problems in the U.S. in the first place.

They have a huge issue with projection -- Repukes above anyone want things for free... they are constantly trying to find way to make easy money rather than earning it.

What the government provides is a pittance compared to what they extract from hard workers.

It is heinous the way Repukes project their issues onto the most vulnerable Americans.

[kxm40]

54. They have a huge issue with projection

I think tribalism, racism and projection are the cause of all the worlds problems today.

[notadmblnd]

38. Tell her to take responsibility for herself

and pull herself up by her bootstraps like all good republicans do. Or did she forget that republicans don't need no stinkin government?

[bongbong]

39. Wingnuts don't oppose gov't

And they certainly don't really hate "Big Government".

However, there is one thing they hate with the intensity of 1,000 suns - the idea that an African-American is getting one penny "for free".

[Motown_Johnny]

40. Unemployment benefits + boat trailer ????

Seriously?

[Zookeeper]

45. Yeah, do they repeat the "people buying lobster with food stamps" meme? n/t

[Motown_Johnny]

46. I'm not buying it either.

[Iris]

41. I just hate people more and more every day.

[spanone]

42. 'they' exempt themselves...it's those minorities that are lazy and living off the gubmint

[krispos42]

47. Show them this comic

[klook]

49. If they wanted free stuff

they should've voted for the other guy, or so I've heard.

[alp227]

50. My response: "You get what you voted for."

"So get involved with local politics and urge your elected representatives to create better services."

[Separation]

53. If they are looking for help still

Tell them to give the coast guard auxiliary unit a call. The will come out an inspect the boat and trailer and give them a pass or fail. Just make sure it's an auxiliary unit and not an active duty unit.

[catbyte]

55. LOL. Government is "The Enemy" until YOU need them

Idiots, selfish, selfish idiots.

[Pakid]

56. One Word

Idiots

[obama2terms]

57. Haha sounds like my brother's friend

Who claims to support himself and even though he qualifies for food stamps he doesn't take them, come to find out he wives wif his mommy. Seems the ones who bitch about moochers are moochers

[1StrongBlackMan]

62. Actually ...

I have far more respect for this guy ... At least he's sponging off his mommy; rather than, me - as he whines about "those folks."

[obama2terms]

67. If you knew him u wouldn't

He is the definition of an asshole

[1StrongBlackMan]

68. I'll trust you on that. n/t

[southernyankeebelle]

58. Well maybe you should tell her to look in the mirror and that is the person to blame.

Remind her voting for republicans who want to cut spending this is what happens.

[lark]

63. RWer

= moran.

[JHB]

65. The ones like that who I know always say they want "small government"...

...because they're cynical about government. What on earth makes them think that what would be cut would NOT be the parts they use?

[Odin2005]

66. I know a buch of people like this, hypocrites all.

I think they are just too stupid and ignorant to connect the services they get with the taxes they pay.

Here in Minnesota they are the idiots who voted for the Republicans and then whined about the roads turning to shit./

[SpartanDem]

69. Small government is just code for cutting off minorties

God fearing white folk like themselves will be spared while the black and mexicans kicked off.

[We People]

71. That's EXACTLY it.

Believe it or not, that meme has been going around ever since the Extreme Right Wing lost the election in '64 and gained momentum with "the Reagan Revolution." Right wing think tanks have been at work perfecting the use of it to a fine art all these decades, in order to put it to use by a vehicle like Faux News.

Now its results are finally coming back to haunt some of those who have been buying into it all these years.