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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWasn't there some kind of ban or restriction on
gathering gunshot data?
It seems I remember something about this and would love to Google it, but I'm not sure what to search for. Or did I just dream the whole thing?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Make7
(8,543 posts)Loudly
(2,436 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)The provision was backed by several Democratic and Republican senators and added by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., an NRA ally who was facing the prospect of a difficult reelection campaign in 2010.
Adam Jentleson, Reid's spokesman, said the senator never discussed the matter with the NRA. Reid "did not think it changed gun laws in any way," Jentleson said. Instead, Reid and others saw the provision as necessary to dispel "myths" about the health-care bill that threatened to rile up opposition, including speculation that the law would allow the Obama administration to compile a database of gun owners.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)And I will cut anyone slack who thought about the issue differently before the bodies of first graders were piled up like cord wood.
Close your eyes and take my hand. Let me lead you out of here. And there's something on the floor so be careful that you don't slip.
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)I remember how they had to fight tooth and nail to get the ACA passed, and I found it interesting that the NRA opposed it until that particular piece was added after which they stayed out of it. Politics.
But I found this particulary interesting - scratch that - DISTURBING!
From 1986 to 1996, the CDC sponsored peer-reviewed research into the underlying causes of gun violence. Among the findings: People who kept guns in their homes for self-defense did not gain protection. Instead, according to research published in the New England Journal of Medicine, residents in homes with a gun faced a 2.7-fold greater risk of homicide and a 4.8-fold greater risk of suicide compared to those in similar homes without guns.
That completely undermines most of the arguments of the anti-gun-control crowd. No wonder the NRA wanted it quashed!
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)The GOP/NRA has cut research funding, blocked the ATF from sharing gun trace data, blocked doctors from gathering data about gun ownership, etc. The heart of the matter is that the NRA is afraid of studies finding that guns pose a public health risk because those studies might be used to, you know, improve public health by tightening gun regulations. It's the same script as tobacco, and climate change, and so on.
http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-national/2013/01/why-obamas-funding-of-gun-research-matters/
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Their agenda revealed
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)Thank you, thank you, thank you! Awesome link with info that will take some time to research.
I'm a "numbers" guy, and the suppression of data really upsets me. The continued suppression of data REALLY upsets me!
The NRA used to serve a necessary purpose - decades ago. I still think we need a group that does what they used to do, but the current NRA is so corrupt I think they need to be totally discredited and disbanded (which means they should go bankrupt - they are a private group after all).
I'm thinking we need a new group to replace the NRA - one that emphasizes gun safety rather than cow-tow to the manufacturers. Eventually, that new group will be corrupted too. At which point, we need to have another group at the ready.
The NRA is a monopoly. The antithesis of a "free market solution" (actually, it's the ultimate result of Free Markets, but that's a discussion for another day).
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)There is a LOT here that needs to be considered. A lot of lessons about the "Political Process" and about the NRA "arguments" which this just proves they have no argument at all.
It also reveals the POWER of the NRA and it's backers. Which is obviously unbalanced (a term I am using to describe their support, although they are mentally unbalanced) and the extents that such Lobbyists will go to maintain their power upon Congress.
Obama promised to exclude Lobbyists or former Lobbyists from his Cabinet, but he quickly found out that excluded EVERYONE.
What are ya gonna do?