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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKucinich has enough credibility to do whatever he wants.
Maybe MSNBC should fire dead intern Joe and give Dennis the show, but if he wants to go to Fox that's his call and I don't mind. I trust his judgement.
I won't be watching though.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)He'll probably uptick the economy just from TV sets being replaced after Fox viewers throw shit at him.
Anger is addictive and those sort of shows are designed to keep the viewer angry so they keep coming back, Kookinich will work very well for that.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)JVS
(61,935 posts)Which is more than can be said for a lot of other people on the left.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)to come on their shows to debate. When they do get one who is willing to spare they interrupt him or turn their mics off. Those are facts. I have no problems on his voting record. I like him as a politicans. I think as a pundit, not so much.
Spock_is_Skeptical
(1,491 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)If Rupert's gonna through that kinda coin at me to play pundit, I'd be a fool to pass it up. Dennis is not a wealthy man and there are few places that would hire for that kind of money so why not take it? Will he be a left wing foil to right wing mems? Probably. But then we see Mikie Steele and Steve Schmidt in similar roles on MSNBC. Occasionally they offer some unique insight on an issue and maybe Dennis will bring that to the parallel universe. I wish him well...
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)with a "from a former democratic presidential candidate, himself" meme. They will use Kucinich to slam the dems and he will not be allowed to defend anything.
It's a Ron Paul move on his part. Stupid and without concern for the damage he will cause.
It's too bad because I always appreciated his ability to stand up for what he thought was right. On the surface you might think that he will go to faux and get some liberal views recognized. But they will only use him to fight everything the dems try to do.
I can't see this as anything good and no I don't think he has a right to use his success in politics to trash the shit out of us and give the repugnants ammo to use against sanity.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)Maybe teach? Or do a local talk show (that earns maybe 100k a year)? Other than lobbyist, he isn't going to find that kind of money at some non-profit. There also aren't many places where his voice can or will be heard. He'll actually be heard by more people watching faux (along with those who will see videos second-hand via YouTube) than he did giving speeches that virtually no one paid attention to on the floors of the House.
I can't see anything bad happening here...when you're at the bottom there isn't much lower to go. Maybe he brings a little sanity to that zoo and creates some interesting and embarrassing moments.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)well going to Faux. It's for Karl Rove. It's for Palin. It's not for Dems.
I'm sure he could have found something else.
He is now going to be their democrat who agrees with them. He won't be allowed to give them shit. They will just use his words against this admin on him, and us.
Wrong move. Wrong.
randome
(34,845 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I don't trust his judgment, and I think he's a has-been. But it's not important to me, anyway, because I do not watch that network.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)Despite silly responses to the contrary. Internet being what it is.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Michael Steele had to make a living too so he went to MSNBC. Better then being a lobbyist.
Dennis is occasionally even more to the left then I am but he has always been a decent guy. He is being used as the token nut liberal but I tbink he knows that already.
cali
(114,904 posts)maybe in your eyes this is true but judging from comments here and at kos and other dem sites, most people don't think he has that credibility.
JVS
(61,935 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)That doesn't make them credible
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)He reminds them that they fell for Bush's bullshit.
Hook
Line
Sinker
JVS
(61,935 posts)As if they haven't harmed it way more already.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... crap they've said about him over the years, the way they failed to support him time after time, and the way they shut him out of debates, they've got a lot of fucking nerve thinking he owes them any respect. I don't like that he'll be on that joke of a network, but I understand it and don't begrudge him getting a payday.
That's what happens when you screw people over enough times, they finally say "enough, time to take care of me."
MuseRider
(34,105 posts)"crap they've said about him over the years, the way they failed to support him time after time, and the way they shut him out of debates, they've got a lot of fucking nerve thinking he owes them any respect. "
He is a free man. He can do as he pleases. I will miss hearing him but hopefully something good comes of this both for the planet and for him.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I'll miss hearing his thoughts also. I suspect he just had his fill of being crapped on by faux Democrats and doesn't particularly see a future in a party that keeps moving further ad further away from it's core values. Can't say that I blame him, because although I haven't changed where I fall in the political spectrum, the Democratic Party has moved FAR to the right of what used to be the Republican Party, and now labels me a "Leftist Radical." The Repubs have gone deep end into Crazyville.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)He is predictable and speaks largely for himself. I have no problem with him appearing on Fox. It is not like DK has a range of notes to play. DK is DK and will be DK regardless of who owns the cameras.
eridani
(51,907 posts)This remains to be seen, though
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)Early this morning, when the re-run of Rachel's show cut to a commercial, I switched to the re-run of O'Reilly's show. Bill and Dennis, in split-screen. Every time Dennis started talking, Bill just started talking right over him. I couldn't tell if Dennis was making sense or not, just couldn't make out what he was saying because of the non-stop interruption by Bill.
So I changed the channel back to MSNBC and watched commercials until Rachel came back on.
That was my breakfast entertainment.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)(Yes, I know: he was an effective mayor and prosecutor.)
bigtree
(85,986 posts). . . he's crossed a line in accepting Murdoch's money. He's got to feel like Jimmy Stewart did in 'Wonderful Life' when he shook old man Potter's hand after being offered a job. I hope he'll reconsider.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Agree with him or disagree, there's no basis for depicting Kucinich as a shy, retiring milquetoast who always folds in the face of determined opposition.
Also, I think it's hypocritical of anyone to criticize Faux for being all right-wing all the time, and then criticize a leftist who gets hired to appear on the network.