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There's only one person in this picture who shouldn't be claiming to be an expert.. (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2013 OP
"The 2nd amendment protects a legitimate individual right" - Barack Obama hack89 Jan 2013 #1
No, it's part of the amendment how ever inconvenient upaloopa Jan 2013 #5
But it is an individual right independent of the militia according to the President hack89 Jan 2013 #9
LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #18
Go read my original post again - see the 6th word in the title? hack89 Jan 2013 #19
If Tom Tomorrow had trademarked the phrase "delicate flowers", some folks would have to stop ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #20
He would still have LOL and a smilie. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #21
Your post is a prime example bongbong Jan 2013 #31
Finally, an attribution! 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #33
I never claimed authorship bongbong Jan 2013 #34
Delicate Flower Spinning! bongbong Jan 2013 #24
We all know the 2A allows regulation - even Scalia agrees with you hack89 Jan 2013 #26
Caught your spin bongbong Jan 2013 #27
I interpreted to mean you didn't need to be part of militia hack89 Jan 2013 #28
Spin bongbong Jan 2013 #29
The President agrees with me. It is pretty clear hack89 Jan 2013 #30
Nothing like the stink of bongwater polluting up the thread. n/t appal_jack Jan 2013 #22
LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #23
who is the guy on the left Enrique Jan 2013 #2
I'd bet money he's never been in the military madokie Jan 2013 #4
Yeah, never mind the two-mile run physical fitness test. Aristus Jan 2013 #25
What the hell kind of gun is that guy holding? upaloopa Jan 2013 #3
That's not a gun... That's a PENIS ENLARGER! eom TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #6
looks sort of like a potato gun to me. HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #7
GunType: Compensatory Microphallus n/t Yavin4 Jan 2013 #8
IT BE HOME GROWD AMURIKAN MADE WAN, DOAN YA KNOE? JOB CREASHUN - WE HAZ IT! freshwest Jan 2013 #10
All phallic symbolism aside... Adsos Letter Jan 2013 #12
I'm thinking that's a modified NTW-20 Recursion Jan 2013 #14
I'm thinking some variant of the Finnish Lahti L-39 (photos) Adsos Letter Jan 2013 #15
Yeah, you're right. It still costs more than his truck (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #16
I wonder what ammo costs, and where he gets it. Adsos Letter Jan 2013 #17
There's also only one person in this picture ProfessionalLeftist Jan 2013 #11
Big guns equal compensation for a lack of miminal endowment.... ? Isoldeblue Jan 2013 #13
Given the NDAA, Obama's drone policy, and Obama's own personal kill list, MadHound Jan 2013 #32

hack89

(39,171 posts)
1. "The 2nd amendment protects a legitimate individual right" - Barack Obama
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:23 PM
Jan 2013

can we stop the militia nonsense?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. But it is an individual right independent of the militia according to the President
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jan 2013

and the party platform.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
18. LOL
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jan 2013

What cherrypicking the Delicate Flowers do!

Obama used the word "legitimate", which you dropped from your post. Just like how Delicate Flowers drop "well-regulated" whenever they whine about the 2nd Amendment.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
19. Go read my original post again - see the 6th word in the title?
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jan 2013

what difference does it make? He is saying an individual right to own guns is a legitimate right.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
20. If Tom Tomorrow had trademarked the phrase "delicate flowers", some folks would have to stop ...
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jan 2013

posting altogether.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
31. Your post is a prime example
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jan 2013

Of why Tom Tomorrow invented the phrase. Thanks for showing his work wasn't in vain.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
33. Finally, an attribution!
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jan 2013

Although surely you wouldn't have objected to a continued portrayal of yourself as the insanely clever devil who coined that phrase, would you?

And FYI, I probably agree with you on 95% of the Second Amendment/gun issues. I just think you are one piss-poor spokesman for the cause.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
34. I never claimed authorship
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jan 2013

I always acknowledged it came from Tom Tomorrow whenever there was whinging from the Delicates about it.

> I just think you are one piss-poor spokesman for the cause.

Never claimed to be a spokesman. Just expressing my opinion on things, like the cowardly paranoia that grips Delicate Flowers.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
24. Delicate Flower Spinning!
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jan 2013

Nice try at spin!

Here is the quote: ""The 2nd amendment protects a legitimate individual right"

That in no way shape or form is equivalent to "an individual right to own guns is a legitimate right." Not in the SLIGHTEST.

He is stating that the 2nd amendment protects a (legal) individual right. If you doubt that, there are plenty of online dictionaries to look up what the word "legitimate" means.

Now, what makes something legal or not? The laws that govern it - as in GUN CONTROL (BOO!) laws.



hack89

(39,171 posts)
26. We all know the 2A allows regulation - even Scalia agrees with you
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jan 2013

I support regulation. I support all of the President's EOs plus universal background checks and limits on high cap mag.

The president is saying you don't have to be in a militia to own guns.

So what is your point exactly?

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
27. Caught your spin
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jan 2013

> So what is your point exactly?

My point is that I caught your spin - your reinterpretation of what the President said. Just like when you spin "you're safer now than ever before" into "guns make you safer"

hack89

(39,171 posts)
28. I interpreted to mean you didn't need to be part of militia
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jan 2013

in order to keep and bear arms.

Do you think the president thinks otherwise?

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
29. Spin
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jan 2013

What the president said is clear, and you tried to change it.

That trick doesn't work at DU.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
30. The President agrees with me. It is pretty clear
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jan 2013

that thinks you have to be a member of the militia to keep and bear arms.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
25. Yeah, never mind the two-mile run physical fitness test.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jan 2013

That dickless wonderboy looks like he probably couldn't manage a two-mile waddle.

Certainly not with full-combat gear...

Delusional fuckbrain...

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. What the hell kind of gun is that guy holding?
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jan 2013

Is it for squirrel hunting or home protection?
When you look up gun nut it says see him.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
12. All phallic symbolism aside...
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

it reminds me of some more recent variant of the anti-tank rifles produced during WWII. Possibly the Lahti L-39, a 20 mm anti-tank rifle produced by Finland.

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EDIT: Yeah...looking at the two again, I suspect it is some version of the Finnish L-39. I wonder where he gets ammo for that thing?

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
15. I'm thinking some variant of the Finnish Lahti L-39 (photos)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:07 PM
Jan 2013

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EDIT: Yeah, I'm pretty certain that's what it is. I wonder where he gets ammo for that thing?

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
11. There's also only one person in this picture
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jan 2013

who evidently must compensate for his lack of intelligence and 'other attributes' with a big gun. Pretty sad.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
13. Big guns equal compensation for a lack of miminal endowment.... ?
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

I bet one guy doesn't even have a high school diploma, much less have knowledge of the constitution.......

No constitution amendment is absolute, like the other guy probably thinks it is. That is why there are college courses and degrees for it.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
32. Given the NDAA, Obama's drone policy, and Obama's own personal kill list,
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

I'm seriously wondering if either of them is anywhere close to being a Constitutional expert.

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