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Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:07 PM Jan 2012

Moral Failure: Ron Paul Supporters Give Racism a Pass

Why do Ron Paul supporters continue to excuse and minimize Ron Paul's obvious affiliation with racists and white supremacists?
The evidence for Ron Paul being a racist sympathizer is overwhelming and incontrovertible. On Tuesday, The New Republic released another cache of controversial newsletters published by Paul that only reaffirms the now tired truth that Paul panders to and solicits support from racists, homophobes and antisemites.

In the 1980's and 1990's Paul published a series of newsletters written in the first person and published under his name that were filled with the most obnoxious bigotry, racism, homophobia and antisemitism.

Paul claims he did not write or approve of the racist, antisemitic and homophobic material appearing in the string of controversial newsletters published under his name. Yet it is hard to believe that Paul would sell and profit from a newsletter bearing his name without being aware of and approving of the content.

Read more: http://www.examiner.com/humanist-in-portland/moral-failure-ron-paul-supporters-give-racism-a-pass


Also see, Ron Paul's Neo-Confederate "South Was Right" Civil War Speech With Confederate Flag: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10178198

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Moral Failure: Ron Paul Supporters Give Racism a Pass (Original Post) Galraedia Jan 2012 OP
but he would legalize drugs, so that makes up for it arely staircase Jan 2012 #1
He attracts future freepers who are still under 30. TheWraith Jan 2012 #3
a friend of mine once said that a libertarian is basically a pot smoking republican. nt arely staircase Jan 2012 #22
Actually, Paulbots make pot smokers look really bad. Galraedia Jan 2012 #4
+1nt arely staircase Jan 2012 #24
to them, individualism means you can't be racist MisterP Jan 2012 #2
why do you expect them to ? they aren't liberals, they think it's ok for people to discriminate JI7 Jan 2012 #5
How come you give Obama a pass on racism? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #6
Wow. Galraedia Jan 2012 #7
So some racism is ok with you. Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #13
Are ProSense Jan 2012 #8
Are saying its not a racist policy he institutes? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #9
I don't think they're being killed because of their race. That's ridiculous. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #10
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #12
Is racism confined to this country? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #15
It ProSense Jan 2012 #19
Are you saying there are no other terrorist organizations in the world? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #27
Muslim is not a race it's a religion. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #20
That is why I put an "and". Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #26
Which Anglo countries are knowingly harboring global terrorists? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #29
! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #11
You're really reaching here Major Nikon Jan 2012 #14
Why? Because youre OK with the policy? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #17
Whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant Major Nikon Jan 2012 #21
Was the South African policies of apartied racist or just immoral? Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #28
They were both Major Nikon Jan 2012 #30
The most Islamist friendly President we've ever had is racist. joshcryer Jan 2012 #18
The guy who expanded military strikes against one country Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #25
neither category; mulims nor arabs is a race, so no bombing them isn't racist arely staircase Jan 2012 #23
Yes, they don't care. They also think it's okay Liquorice Jan 2012 #16

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
1. but he would legalize drugs, so that makes up for it
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012

well he wouldn't actually legalize them, he would leave it up t progressive institutions like the texas legislature to decide what to do with pot smokers - but still - that more than makes up for hime being a racist scumabag, right?

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
3. He attracts future freepers who are still under 30.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:49 PM
Jan 2012

The segment of the youth vote that's okay with bigotry but still likes sex and drugs.

Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
4. Actually, Paulbots make pot smokers look really bad.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jan 2012

If someone is willing to put weed before every other issue regarding this crazy f#%k then weed is obviously a very dangerous drug and should be strictly outlawed. What we are dealing with here is not political activism, it's a cult. And even Charles Manson had a drug fueled cult and was a racist which makes it even more f@#ked up.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
2. to them, individualism means you can't be racist
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:24 PM
Jan 2012

of course, they also believe that pollution, inequality, corruption, upward wealth flow are impossible under capitalism...

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
6. How come you give Obama a pass on racism?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:36 AM
Jan 2012

Obama bombs and kills Arabs and Muslims at his leisure. Is this not a glaringly racist act? Has he killed any other people or bombed any other countries?

I guess some racism is more acceptable with you?

Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
7. Wow.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:43 AM
Jan 2012

Obama didn't write a bunch of racist newsletters, deny the cause of the Civil War, attend a neo-confederate rally, vote against Martin Luther Jr. day, or criticize the Civil Rights Act of 1964 now did he?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. Are
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:50 AM
Jan 2012
How come you give Obama a pass on racism?

Obama bombs and kills Arabs and Muslims at his leisure. Is this not a glaringly racist act? Has he killed any other people or bombed any other countries?

I guess some racism is more acceptable with you?

...you really concerned about racism?

Sen. Rand Paul: TSA Should Profile "Middle Eastern Students"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002214375

Racial Profiling is an Injustice Against Us All
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002222999

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
9. Are saying its not a racist policy he institutes?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:28 AM
Jan 2012

Or are you saying profiling and reaper missile strikes are the same thing?

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
10. I don't think they're being killed because of their race. That's ridiculous.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:30 AM
Jan 2012

Even Bush knew this wasn't a race war (of course he treated it like a holy war).

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. Well,
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:34 AM
Jan 2012

"Are saying its not a racist policy he institutes? Or are you saying profiling and reaper missile strikes are the same thing?"

...according to some he targets Americans so no, it's not "racist." I call it targeting fucking terrorist.

Now, how concerned are you about racism in this country? Care to share your views in the thread on racial profiling?

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
15. Is racism confined to this country?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:51 AM
Jan 2012

And the American you are talking about was a Muslim. How many US "terrorist" got missile strikes? Or any other country, religion, race?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
19. It
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:58 AM
Jan 2012
"Is racism confined to this country? And the American you are talking about was a Muslim. How many US "terrorist" got missile strikes? Or any other country, religion, race?

interesting that some people are concerned about racism in going after terrorist, but have little concern for the racism in this country.

They'd just as soon defend a racist while hiding behind claims of institutionalized racism, and only selectively.

Now, it's racist to go after terrorist. You said "Arab and Muslim," but it includes Americans. A terrorist is a terrorist.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
27. Are you saying there are no other terrorist organizations in the world?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:40 PM
Jan 2012

Funny how some people only veiw racist acts they can see and like to ignore all the other ones in the world they don't.

Now what about all the other people killed in airstrikes by Obama, were they all terrorist? Nothing is more institutionalised racism then bombing and killing people because they refuse to let you control their lives, country and wealth.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
26. That is why I put an "and".
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
Jan 2012

The policy is as bad now as it was under bush.

Notice that these two things seem to give him the thought that he can kill them. Has he bombed an Anglo country? A country that is predominantly Christian?

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
29. Which Anglo countries are knowingly harboring global terrorists?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jan 2012

Again, prove to me that Obama is bombing their country because of their race or religion.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
21. Whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:08 AM
Jan 2012

You may think the policy is immoral or unethical. You may be right. None of this makes the policy racist.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
28. Was the South African policies of apartied racist or just immoral?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:45 PM
Jan 2012

Immoral is movable goal post. Some people think homosexuality is immoral, should they get the same treatment as Arabs, Muslims or other people of Middle Eastern descent?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
30. They were both
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jan 2012

None of this has anything to do with whether or not the US policy of targeted killing is racist. If you think the policy is racist, quote the actual part of the policy you think is racist and make your argument why you think it is. Simply asserting it is racist with no explanation is not a basis for an argument if that point is in dispute and myself and others simply don't agree. So you can either support your assertion or you can't. If you can, then we'll talk. Fair enough?

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
25. The guy who expanded military strikes against one country
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jan 2012

bombs another frequently, is saber rattling with another and props up tyrants in ones who sell us oil.

Thats some friend.

Yeah, no racist policy there.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
23. neither category; mulims nor arabs is a race, so no bombing them isn't racist
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jan 2012

regardless of what else one might think of the policy.

Liquorice

(2,066 posts)
16. Yes, they don't care. They also think it's okay
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:54 AM
Jan 2012

for Ron Paul to be sexist. In his book he wrote that women who are sexually harassed at work bear some responsibility because they should quit if they don't like it. His supporters don't care. Maybe they are racists and sexists too. That's allowed, I guess.

At least with the racism, Ron Paul pretends he didn't really write any of it. That shows at least some "progess" in that he is distancing himself from his racist words. I think if he stood by those newsletters now and claimed he really believes those racist things, at least some of his supporters would drop him. With the sexism, however, he still openly defends his sexist views and argues that he's right about women quitting their jobs if they don't like being harassed. And his supporters apparently agree.

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