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The White House had no immediate comment on why it did not include more ammunition measures in its package.
Sacramento's Detective Halstead sees his work as extremely relevant to fighting crime. He counts down the list of gang members, parolees, registered sex offenders, and more that his group has tracked down.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/20/us-usa-guns-ammunition-idUSBRE90J02K20130120
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New York last week became the first state to require on-the-spot background checks when buying bullets, and limited magazines to seven rounds. The New York law also requires ammo dealers to register with the state and keep records of purchasers, which will enable police to receive automatic alerts if someone is stockpiling bullets.
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U.S. gun, rifle and ammunition sales to civilians were $4.3 billion in 2011, with bullets amounting to about a third of the total, the National Shooting Sports Foundation estimates.
High-capacity magazines are readily available over the Web - a 33-round magazine for a Glock handgun costs about $50. "You can load up on Monday, shoot until Tuesday," one salesman says in Web video.
Over the years, consumer versions of military rifles have become very popular, and they eat up bullets.
Some 70 percent of ammunition is for non-hunting use, primarily target practice, according to a survey of its members by the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
"The consumption of 1,000 rounds or more is often routine for a weekend trip to the range," the foundation said in a note opposing ammunition regulation.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)....at licenced "well regulated" gun ranges where an exacting inventory of what is fired is kept.
Everywhere else, bullets should be expensive and limited.
In every mass shooting recently, the killer had "amassed" huge numbers of ammo. In most cases way more even than they where able to use. Almost as if part of their psychological "readying" of themselves was to have a massive stockpile.
There should be severe limits on how much ammo any one individual can purchase. And yes I know about reloading. *Most* people will not be doing that, and that activity can be regulated as well.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)If you shoot for target practice you join a Sportsman's or Rod and Gun Club. They don't have the ability to keep records like that.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)I dont think id worry about spending fifty grand on my credit card for five hundred rounds.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)the broad public health approach used to curb smoking, car crashes and poisonings.
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In a viewpoint article published online in the Journal of the American Medical Association the researchers wrote: The media, celebrities, peers, teachers and physicians worked together to "de-glorify" cigarettes -- previously seen as symbols of power, modernity, and sexuality -- an analogous campaign could justifiably equate gun violence with weakness, irrationality, and cowardice and reduce its glorification in movies, television and video games.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2013/01/20/Broad-approach-urged-to-curb-gun-violence/UPI-81061358736783
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)I recently bought a box of 20 30.06 rounds... over a buck a shot. That's real sticker shock to me. I don't fire more than a few rounds a year. 10 or so to sight in and a couple for Bambi.
I realize that's for hunting rounds, but...
1,000 rounds of .45 ACP is $585...
One place advertises the .223 rounds at $410.00 for 420 rounds. A buck a shot. 30 rounds - $30 bucks - in a minute or so, even at slow fire.
Those fucking people just have too much money to burn thru...
Why don't they spend it on their kids... or drugs... or something constructive.
These are probably the same assholes who complain about their taxes being so high.
This fucking country is nuts!
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)see post #6
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)This means that, on any given day, roughly 5 percent of the Sunshine State is traipsing across Disney World or Gulf beaches or maybe even the Stuckeys in Yeehaw Junction (population 240, and an excellent place to get shot), carrying an assortment of compact or subcompact weapons. The majority, it stands to reason, are locked and loaded. This could be a blessing if you happen to be sitting next to one of these folks in the middle of a sticky situation, or the final curse if the guy behind the trigger happens to be a homicidal maniac who has become obsessed with what a hollow point can do to a sternum.
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As we left High Noon for the range, I could tell Eddie was itching to shoot the $1,500 of ammo we had run around town to acquire. I was too. It made me think of the people out there who claim to hate guns but have never fired one, or at least havent fired one as an adult in a controlled environment. If you have and you still abhor firearms, I respect that but dont understand. Shooting guns is fun as long as youre not an idiot about it.
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I asked what hed brought to the range.
Lets see, Big Nick said and took a deep breath as he unpacked his weapons. Bushmaster Predator AR-15, H&K MP5 .22 LR, Springfield Armory XD-S .45, Smith & Wesson Governor .45 ACP/.45 LC/.410 GA, a custom 1911 .45, and a Benelli M2 12-gauge shotgun. Thats just what I brought, the rest is at home.
http://www.vice.com/read/guns-in-the-sun-004469-v19n12