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southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:12 PM Jan 2013

Jindal stops Hospice Care for Medicaid patients - UPDATED!!!

Last edited Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:32 PM - Edit history (4)

Effective February 1, 2013. Apparently, if you are on Medicaid, Fuck dying with dignity, with care and in no pain. (My interpretation of the article). By the way, I got the same letter in my mailbox today. He has also cut physical therapy, occupational therapy, speech therapy, no dental for pregnant woman or special services for HIV patients.

Oh yea, he just bought up a new charity hospital in the state and is privatizing it (in Lake Charles).

Is there ANY National Journalists out there interested in whats happening in deep red Louisiana? Rachel, Ed, Lawrence, Melissa, anybody????

Additional Information from the article
"Louisiana will become one of only two states to eliminate Medicaid hospice. Arizona was in that mix, but has already reinstituted it because it costs more. "You're going to pick them up and bring them to the emergency room, to the hospital, which costs considerably more than the $140/day paid for by the state for the Medicaid program," said Phelps." [Sherrill Phelps with the Louisiana-Mississippi Hospice Association].


<b>There will be a candlelight vigil at the State Capitol steps Wednesday from 4:00 to 6:30 P.M. to protest the elimination of Medicaid hospice.</b>

[link:http://www.kplctv.com/story/20646130/terminally-ill-patients-bracing-for-medicaid-hospice-cuts|

UPDATE:
Gov. Bobby Jindal backs down on Medicaid hospice elimination


But on Wednesday, the administration reversed course. The program will be maintained for the rest of the state's fiscal year, which ends June 30, with the use of "temporary bridge funding," according to a news release from the Department of Health and Hospitals. The release referred to that money as grant funding but did not specify where it came from or how reallocating it to hospice care would affect other state programs.

In the longer-term, the release said the department would work to revamp its hospice program with a greater focus on in-home and community-based care. That could include a greater reliance on non-profit and faith-based organizations and changes to the rates paid to hospice providers, according to the release.


http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/01/gov_bobby_jindal_backs_down_on.html#incart_river_default

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Jindal stops Hospice Care for Medicaid patients - UPDATED!!! (Original Post) southern_belle Jan 2013 OP
Don't worry Sgent Jan 2013 #1
very true. I DID forget to mention that! southern_belle Jan 2013 #4
Do you have a link for this? LukeFL Jan 2013 #77
here is a link southern_belle Jan 2013 #102
I'm for value added or sales taxes if they are in addition to taxes on wealth, JDPriestly Jan 2013 #120
So, you think hurting the poor is OKAY, if the rich pay some pocket-change? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #146
He is in essence proposing the misnamed "fair tax" which is based on consumption..... Swede Atlanta Jan 2013 #135
Can you explain something to me... SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #94
Heartless scum Sugarcoated Jan 2013 #2
My first thought - monsters. CrispyQ Jan 2013 #170
Lift yourself by your own bootstraps, losers. Permanut Jan 2013 #3
Glad you could join us, southern_belle Jan 2013 #6
.. Permanut Jan 2013 #8
.. southern_belle Jan 2013 #10
I see he is a Catholic Botany Jan 2013 #5
+1 Thank You southern_belle Jan 2013 #7
That line needs to be repeated to Fundie voters... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #21
They are materialists. Least meaning smallest, the unborn. After that, sinners deserving punishment. freshwest Jan 2013 #40
aren't fundies against hospice to begin with? maryellen99 Jan 2013 #74
And to think someof your people LukeFL Jan 2013 #9
OMG we have so talked about moving southern_belle Jan 2013 #12
Come to California. tblue Jan 2013 #93
I am so glad to live here.. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #119
... southern_belle Jan 2013 #152
Every time there's some fresh assault on the people by the right wing, Texin Jan 2013 #108
I wholeheartedly agree! Dustlawyer Jan 2013 #174
Yep. NOLALady Jan 2013 #84
He has no chance nationally n2doc Jan 2013 #91
I guess Tree-Hugger Jan 2013 #11
+1000 southern_belle Jan 2013 #13
We should be playing that angle up even more. They_Live Jan 2013 #144
Agreed Tree-Hugger Jan 2013 #172
Thank you all for rec'ing this to the Greatest! southern_belle Jan 2013 #14
I'll send letters, too, southern-belle! pacalo Jan 2013 #24
The "GOP Death Panels" have arrived in Louisiana. nt SDjack Jan 2013 #15
yes, they have, SDjack southern_belle Jan 2013 #16
Why can't they just crawl away and die? 6000eliot Jan 2013 #17
Animals have more respect for life and the living than that. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #65
How sad, how crass.... Historic NY Jan 2013 #18
I HATE these people. Th1onein Jan 2013 #19
Jindal is sicker than the patients Skittles Jan 2013 #20
Sounds suspiciously like Jindal has got his own little Death Panel up and running. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #22
This is unbelievable! pacalo Jan 2013 #23
Me too, pacalo southern_belle Jan 2013 #26
I've got a lot to say about this, let me tell you. pacalo Jan 2013 #33
... southern_belle Jan 2013 #35
Thank you, southern belle. pacalo Jan 2013 #37
... southern_belle Jan 2013 #43
aww barbtries Jan 2013 #85
I am sorry for your loss pacalo siligut Jan 2013 #42
+1000 n/t southern_belle Jan 2013 #45
Thank you, siligut. pacalo Jan 2013 #48
You have a strong voice siligut Jan 2013 #71
Not move to Louisiana formercia Jan 2013 #117
How could he get away with something like that? Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #25
"Follow the money", he's obviously being paid of somehow by someone. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #115
Those people are going to be put under and kept that way until it's over. :-((((((((((((((((((( patrice Jan 2013 #27
It's called "chemical restraints" and it's what they do when staffing is low & underqualified. nt patrice Jan 2013 #29
AND it CAN be legal. nt patrice Jan 2013 #31
Despicable, ugly, evil. jsr Jan 2013 #28
what a horrible human being davekriss Jan 2013 #67
Melissa hates him. EC Jan 2013 #30
I will email her again n/t southern_belle Jan 2013 #36
Even Mark Kirk came around after his stroke. I heard him say in an interview after returning okwmember Jan 2013 #32
Please...please...TELL ME this bastard's popularity is declining... Ken Burch Jan 2013 #34
I know I am still fighting and trying to southern_belle Jan 2013 #41
I'll tell you in 20 months Sgent Jan 2013 #56
Look, if it was Jindal or Landrieu, you know damn well that DU'ers would back Landrieu. Ken Burch Jan 2013 #57
^^^ this ^^^ TDale313 Jan 2013 #66
So does he think people dying in an ICU will save the state money? mucifer Jan 2013 #38
Win-win for him. djean111 Jan 2013 #106
Horrible. I'm so sorry, and my state (NC) is on the same path it looks like. yardwork Jan 2013 #39
Our new NC Budget Policy Director, Art Pope, and Jindal octoberlib Jan 2013 #52
I'm seriously scared about this. alarimer Jan 2013 #156
I know what you mean. How could people be so foolish? yardwork Jan 2013 #171
Thank all of you again. I southern_belle Jan 2013 #44
oh sure very Pro Life PatrynXX Jan 2013 #46
The Rude Pundit hates him too. mountain grammy Jan 2013 #47
didn't realize the RudeOne was from Louisiana. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #62
I didn't realize that either! southern_belle Jan 2013 #127
K&R!!! tilsammans Jan 2013 #49
Mean! oldandhappy Jan 2013 #50
Subhuman Samantha Jan 2013 #51
Not just heartless, but stupid too. This will mean higher costs in the end. NC_Nurse Jan 2013 #53
Which is what confounds me Sgent Jan 2013 #58
higher costs payable to his new pet hospital, perchance? 0rganism Jan 2013 #63
More red state welfare xxqqqzme Jan 2013 #151
THERE'S your fucking "death panel", Caribou Barbie! bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #54
Jindal refused to implement Obamacare, which include hospice services.....n/t radhika Jan 2013 #55
They are just out of their minds.. busterbrown Jan 2013 #59
I just wish there was a hell Zoeisright Jan 2013 #60
I looked it up and he won his 2nd term by a landslide. AnnieK401 Jan 2013 #61
Alan Grayson was right Smilo Jan 2013 #64
What a piece of filth...one state over in Mississippi its just as bad....the American south Rowdyboy Jan 2013 #68
Yes it is. Horse with no Name Jan 2013 #87
Once again I ask... How the fuck does ANYONE vote Republican? world wide wally Jan 2013 #69
K&R ReRe Jan 2013 #70
Thank you ReRe southern_belle Jan 2013 #72
Be strong! ReRe Jan 2013 #75
Just added this from the article southern_belle Jan 2013 #73
What a fucking moron. magical thyme Jan 2013 #76
A sad and sickening thought of having a ward full of patient dying with a room full of weeping DhhD Jan 2013 #167
Here's your death panel, if your poor! ebbie15644 Jan 2013 #78
One of the biggest fraudulent scumbags in American politics. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2013 #79
He is going to pay more when they go to the nursing home. He apparently does not understand why jwirr Jan 2013 #80
I get the distinct feeling that they won't be in the nursing home either Horse with no Name Jan 2013 #88
Unfortunately. jwirr Jan 2013 #90
I really wish I believed in hell right now, so I could visualize Jindal burning in it. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #81
He bugs me. topcat007 Jan 2013 #82
K&R great white snark Jan 2013 #83
Hospice is kind. Hospice gives the patient dignity. Hospice is very cost effective. Horse with no Name Jan 2013 #86
moves me to tears reading this!! beachgirl2365 Jan 2013 #89
I'm sorry about the loss of your mother southern_belle Jan 2013 #99
Stupid with the dental care for pregnant women HockeyMom Jan 2013 #92
Unregulated Capitalism Has No Compassion DallasNE Jan 2013 #95
If a bank is sick . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #96
You can only hope libodem Jan 2013 #97
Ok, so he's a Catholic (he doesn't act like a Christian) Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #98
I had never thought about writing to southern_belle Jan 2013 #105
Where are the bishops on this one? Worried senior Jan 2013 #100
Good question. eilen Jan 2013 #109
beyond sad... ceile Jan 2013 #101
WOW THANKS BOBBY Blue Owl Jan 2013 #103
You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its elderly Hugabear Jan 2013 #104
Actually the elderly are covered under Medicare eilen Jan 2013 #113
how heaven05 Jan 2013 #107
Hospice made my mother's passing much easier on her neffernin Jan 2013 #110
Republicans get more soul-less by the day. merrily Jan 2013 #111
Yup, that would be him. The southern_belle Jan 2013 #123
LOL! Good luck with getting 100% of the vote, Bobby. merrily Jan 2013 #136
How did your state become so red? I always thought it was a blue state. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #112
the only blue part of the state southern_belle Jan 2013 #121
Really sad for the people on medicaid. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #140
There was this little Katrina Diaspora. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #147
I wondered if that anything to do with that. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #149
I am not 100% aligned with the Democratic Party, but the Republicans seem to desire ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #114
Let's just say adieu Jan 2013 #116
I swear the GOP agenda is created by people sitting around making .. Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #118
that is EXACTLY what they do Skittles Jan 2013 #122
and the cuts to physical, occupational and speech therapy southern_belle Jan 2013 #124
Wow, What A lack Of Empathy colsohlibgal Jan 2013 #125
Brewer of AZ murderered OTP patients, Only GOD can render justice for Jindal, hes so depraved. CarmanK Jan 2013 #126
Jindal is the scum of the earth in my book benld74 Jan 2013 #128
Why is Jindal trying to show his stuff, according to the Constitution is not eligible to run Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #129
That's what happens when medically ignorant pricks Warpy Jan 2013 #130
Ugh! horseshoecrab Jan 2013 #131
+1000 southern_belle Jan 2013 #134
Wish I could be there too horseshoecrab Jan 2013 #137
+1000 Thank You southern_belle Jan 2013 #141
So that's the next big thing the Fucking red States... santamargarita Jan 2013 #132
Just another day for the Party of Death, Doom, & Destruction. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #133
the modern GOP is full of cruel people. WI_DEM Jan 2013 #138
Medicaid for hospice patients, that's as ridiculous as volcano monitoring... LW1977 Jan 2013 #139
Or levee-watching. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #148
Now, you know there's just too many people taking advantage of the program Burma Jones Jan 2013 #142
The assault on the people continues....Kick glinda Jan 2013 #143
Whew! I thought for a second he was becoming DECENT! WinkyDink Jan 2013 #145
Nah, Wink... southern_belle Jan 2013 #153
Ugh shenmue Jan 2013 #150
I hate you, you heartless piece of crap. alarimer Jan 2013 #154
Don't worry. I see Jindal as another canary in the coal mine. randome Jan 2013 #169
These people are shameless. Anyone who denies dying people comfort and care in their last days PA Democrat Jan 2013 #155
When his time comes...may he be a homeless x-politician! Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #157
Bobby "Berm" Jindal is a punk: ProSense Jan 2013 #158
Thank You, ProSense!!!! southern_belle Jan 2013 #159
Hat tip to DUer southern_belle littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #160
awww, southern_belle Jan 2013 #165
The Politician Hall of Shame Inductee #5 littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #161
Stop Press: Jindal Reverses Himself Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #162
Yes, I've updated :) eom southern_belle Jan 2013 #164
YAY!!! Maybe we had a little part in his backing down? Thank you southern_belle Jan 2013 #163
UPDATE = VERY GOOD NEWS! MoonRiver Jan 2013 #166
:) southern_belle Jan 2013 #168
doncha see, you have to CUT Medicaid to SAVE it!!! CTyankee Jan 2013 #173

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
1. Don't worry
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jan 2013

his newest tax proposal will help the state grow....

His proposal is to eliminate the inheritance tax and income tax, and replace it with additional sales tax. This would make the sales tax 12-13.5% in most of the state (including 13% in greater New Orleans).

LukeFL

(594 posts)
77. Do you have a link for this?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jan 2013

Has this passed? Would like to share with my not so conservative republican friends who still vote republican because they feel to be " compassionate"

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
102. here is a link
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:36 PM
Jan 2013

It has not passed yet.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/20130123/OPINION/130121017/Your-Mail-Jindal-s-tax-plan-harmful-scheme

From the article:
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal wants to eliminate state income taxes on individuals and corporations and replace that revenue by raising the state sales tax to the highest in the nation.

This will leave Louisiana’s least affluent paying a higher portion of their income in taxes while the highest earners pay a lower portion. In other words, the governor wants to increase taxes on the poorest to fund tax cuts for the richest.
Jindal’s tax increase will hit hardest those who can least afford it: working families, students working their way through school, seniors and anyone living on a fixed income. Make no mistake, this tax hike will also hit middle-class families.
This scheme will make Louisiana a graveyard for retirees. They pay little or no income taxes. The governor’s plan is just a tax increase for Louisiana retirees, most of whom can least afford it. Our state retirees pay no income taxes on their state pension payments. This plan is nothing but a tax increase for them.

The governor’s numbers don’t hold up to scrutiny. In the last fiscal year, the state brought in about $2.9 billion from income taxes on corporations and individuals. The sales tax revenues the same year were about the same $2.9 billion. To keep this swap “revenue neutral” the governor will have double the state sales tax from 4 cents to 8 cents.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
120. I'm for value added or sales taxes if they are in addition to taxes on wealth,
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jan 2013

but not instead of taxes on wealth.

This will hurt business in Louisiana.

To say nothing of the health of the elderly.

Think, patients dying of cancer. This will not work.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
135. He is in essence proposing the misnamed "fair tax" which is based on consumption.....
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jan 2013

This will benefit the wealthy that earn more but don't necessarily spend all of their income. They will only be taxed on the portion they consume - say 85 or 90% of $250K whereas a worker at McDonald's who spends all their income will pay tax on 100% of their $25K income. This is the war on the poor and the middle class in its most base expression.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
94. Can you explain something to me...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jan 2013

If in home hospice care is cheaper than the state paying for transporting & housing sick & dying patients then would it not suggest Jindal is doing this out of spite or revenge? How mean can someone be? All the crying they did over "Death Panels" & then go & do this is DISGUSTING!!

Let me know if I am wrong about it being cheaper for in home hospice vs the other...I dont want to be one of those people who spread incorrect info even if the incorrect info helps support my point.

Thanks!

Permanut

(5,538 posts)
3. Lift yourself by your own bootstraps, losers.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jan 2013

Dying is just another wimpy excuse from the radical leftist Marxist Communist community organizer Muslin tree hugging dirt worshipping democrat party sissies for being lazy and not pulling your weight.



Botany

(70,424 posts)
5. I see he is a Catholic
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:19 PM
Jan 2013

“Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me.” J. Christ

And still the republicans wonder where are all their voters going?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
40. They are materialists. Least meaning smallest, the unborn. After that, sinners deserving punishment.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:16 AM
Jan 2013
All makes sense by their math.





LukeFL

(594 posts)
9. And to think someof your people
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jan 2013

Want to secede from the union and form your own The United Red States of America.

Sorry to hear. You can always relocate. I guess? I know it's not as easy to be done as it sounds.

I send you a group hug.?

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
12. OMG we have so talked about moving
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jan 2013

out of the south!!! If only we could!

Thank you for the hug, LukeFL. I really need it right now

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
119. I am so glad to live here..
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jan 2013

Seriously.. all of those Republicans are just insane. If I were President of the United States, I would require a mental exam and basic educational exam for every Republican..and if they didn't pass.. The world would know about it.

Texin

(2,588 posts)
108. Every time there's some fresh assault on the people by the right wing,
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jan 2013

I tell my husband we need to move. I live in Texas and this fucking state is way worse that LA in my opinion.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
84. Yep.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jan 2013

If only we could.

We didn't leave for Katrina. But, Piyush makes me think its time to pack up. This idiot is clearly out of control.

After he totally destroys whats left of our state, I guess he has plans to run for Prez so that he can try and destroy the country. He's a good little Repub puppet.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
91. He has no chance nationally
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jan 2013

Most of the national repub base are racists who would never vote for an "injun", even if he is one of them. He won't have the luxury of running against weak or nonexistent opposition in the national primaries. But I can easily see him in the cabinet of whomever white boy the repubs nominate next. Never thought I'd see someone who makes Georgia Repubs look moderate.

They_Live

(3,223 posts)
144. We should be playing that angle up even more.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

I know that the Rs think it is only in the womb that "life" counts, but we really need to call them out on their hypocrisy.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
14. Thank you all for rec'ing this to the Greatest!
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jan 2013

I have been writing to Ed, Rachel and the gang for months now with what has been happening here. Happily, Melissa called him out on her show a few weeks ago with one of her "Dear Bobby" letters. I wish she would go back and keep up with him.

2naSalit

(86,289 posts)
65. Animals have more respect for life and the living than that.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:15 AM
Jan 2013

These are just evil people. And theye were the ones squealing about death panels just... how many months ago?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
23. This is unbelievable!
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jan 2013

My mother's hospice care allowed her to die comfortably & peacefully in her own home, so I'm very aware of how vital hospice care is to terminally-ill patients & their families. What does he expect terminally-ill patients to do?

This really angers me.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
26. Me too, pacalo
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:58 PM
Jan 2013

Please just pass this on to twitter, Facebook, etc. Maybe, just maybe, we can shame him into backing off of this cruel, heartless, policy.


southern_belle

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
33. I've got a lot to say about this, let me tell you.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:08 AM
Jan 2013

I'm still in a weird foggy funk after my mom's death in November, so after I collect my thoughts I'm going to do whatever I can to spread the word. I want everyone to have the same level of medical care my mom had when she most needed it. This isn't a luxury -- it's vital!

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
37. Thank you, southern belle.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jan 2013

I'm not someone who cries easily, but tears are streaming down my face right now.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
42. I am sorry for your loss pacalo
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jan 2013

Good you are going to do something good with your grief by working to help those still alive.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
48. Thank you, siligut.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jan 2013

I plan to do just that. I'd be willing to go to the state capitol to speak before the legislature -- that's how strongly I feel about this.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
117. Not move to Louisiana
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:01 PM
Jan 2013

The lack of Taxes might induce people to move there, Jindal is saying "Don't come here if you plan to die soon. We want to get some work out of you first."

patrice

(47,992 posts)
29. It's called "chemical restraints" and it's what they do when staffing is low & underqualified. nt
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:01 AM
Jan 2013

okwmember

(345 posts)
32. Even Mark Kirk came around after his stroke. I heard him say in an interview after returning
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:05 AM
Jan 2013

to the Senate that it was just these types of Medicaid policies he was concerned about when he realized that had he had Medicaid at the time of his stroke, he would have only had a total of 11 physical therapy sessions. Consequently, he'd still be sitting in a wheelchair rather than climbing the capitol steps.

I just can't imagine the goings on in a mind so uncaring as Jindal's.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
34. Please...please...TELL ME this bastard's popularity is declining...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:08 AM
Jan 2013

Even a "deep red" state can't be getting behind something THIS sadistic.

Please tell me that some large group of folks in La. STILL have souls and are fighting this.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
41. I know I am still fighting and trying to
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jan 2013

get the message out. And David Vitter is a GOOD buddy and expects to be able to walk into the Governor's Seat when term limits end Jindal's reign of terror in 2014. Jindal's popularity seems to be going down, but i don't know if it will be enough to stop a David Vitter from stepping right in - he's backing him all the way with these hospital takeovers and medicaid action from what I understand??? Unbelievable, huh?

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
56. I'll tell you in 20 months
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jan 2013

I expect he will run against Mary Landreau for Senate -- and probably win. Then all the DU'ers who hate DINO's will be rid of one of the "worst" DINO's of all, and get Bobby Jindal in her place.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
57. Look, if it was Jindal or Landrieu, you know damn well that DU'ers would back Landrieu.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:06 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:01 AM - Edit history (3)

(and, as my edit above shows, we'd at least learn how to spell her damn last NAME correctly, unlike some people I could mention.)

If you WANT us to back people like her(btw, she's the last one like that we're GOING to need to back, since most of that wing of the party no longer exists)baiting us isn't going to help.

How about...oh, I dunno...making a POSITIVE case for Landrieu? And how about treating the people whose support you're asking for with actual respect?

mucifer

(23,458 posts)
38. So does he think people dying in an ICU will save the state money?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jan 2013

What an idiot!

Hospice saves the government tons of money.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
106. Win-win for him.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jan 2013

Die in the ICU - more money for the private hospital.
Die at home with no care, doesn't cost anything.

yardwork

(61,527 posts)
39. Horrible. I'm so sorry, and my state (NC) is on the same path it looks like.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:14 AM
Jan 2013

What is wrong with these people?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
52. Our new NC Budget Policy Director, Art Pope, and Jindal
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jan 2013

are both from the Koch funded Americans for Prosperity crowd. In fact Pope was a founder.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
156. I'm seriously scared about this.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

As a state employee, with the loss of income tax, I think a lot of us will lose our jobs, or at least our benefits.

I fucking hate Republicans with every fiber of my being.

One of my coworkers was complaining about Perdue before the election, how "corrupt" she was. Well, I hope they'll be happy when they lose their job due to this new crop of bozos.

yardwork

(61,527 posts)
171. I know what you mean. How could people be so foolish?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:11 AM
Jan 2013

On election night I was at a house party with a lot of liberals. When McCrory's win was announced, everybody was complacent. "He's a moderate Republican, right? "Oh, he's moderate." I didn't say anything. I wasn't surprised when he appointed Art Pope as his finance director either.

"Perdue is so corrupt" was a meme brought to us by the Koch Brothers and their boy in North Carolina, Art Pope.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
44. Thank all of you again. I
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:22 AM
Jan 2013

need to get to bed but I'll check the thread when i wake up in the morning. Good night, friends.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
46. oh sure very Pro Life
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jan 2013

idiotic phrase. makes no fucking sense whatsoever. I'll just refer everyone to Carlin for anything there..

called pro life to get votes

mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
47. The Rude Pundit hates him too.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:28 AM
Jan 2013

Rude is from La. and has posted many stories about your governor. What a lunatic, he needs to be in the spotlight (Jindal, not Rude, though Rude might like the spotlight.)

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
62. didn't realize the RudeOne was from Louisiana.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:27 AM
Jan 2013

Love him, so brilliant.

I'm sick to my stomach reading this thread. An ex of mine grew up in LA. so we went to visit often.

I just..I have no words....nothing can express how disgusting this scumbag Jindal is, as well as ANYONE who thinks along the same lines.

And he BOUGHT a charity hospital and is privatizing it?????????????
With whose funds did he buy it? Either way, his or the taxpayers, it's disgusting.

And then, getting rid of inheritance tax and replacing it with sales tax??????????????? That's added burden on poor and middle class. As if he's not whipping them hard enough already. Why doesn't he just hire the KKK to get rid of all the people he doesn't like?


I am so angry and stunned .....disgusted. ...and enraged right now........ omg. OMG

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
127. I didn't realize that either!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jan 2013

I just googled him, and sure enough, this is at the top of his blog:

1/23/2013
Louisiana's Jindal to Abused Women and the Dying: Drop Dead:

Jindal is also cutting funding for women's shelters because "the Jindal administration said the state was moving away from costly residential care for domestic violence victims in favor of short-term hotel stays and family care." You got that? Victims of domestic violence should stay with family where their abusers would never find them, obviously. The funding cut also hits sexual assault centers, too, because compassion costs too much.

Yeah, it's a cruel, cruel life in the Bayou State. But, hey, throw us some more beads, mister.


http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
51. Subhuman
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:37 AM
Jan 2013

That is what it takes to do something like this. It seems like the GOP has a number of them.

Sam

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
58. Which is what confounds me
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:06 AM
Jan 2013

Jindal, whatever else may be the case, knows health policy inside and out -- and I have personal knowledge of this fact. This amount of stupidity is dumbfounding, since hospice actually saves money since it reduces the overall cost of care.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
59. They are just out of their minds..
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:24 AM
Jan 2013

For the rest of us who think we are in “safe states”, beware!!! As long as these guys live in our country and
represent a great deal of the population and wealth.....One never knows if in fact, we are safe.....
This shit could be coming to our world... I’m gonna fight like hell to stop them. Already involved with
2014 elections...

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
61. I looked it up and he won his 2nd term by a landslide.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:26 AM
Jan 2013

That is crazy. However, I can't say much. I live in FL. and look who the people here elected. At least these R. Governor's will be up for reelection next yr. Jindal can't run and the chances for Scott to be reelected don't look good.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
64. Alan Grayson was right
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:48 AM
Jan 2013

the GOP's own death panels want people to hurry up and die. No mollycoddling in hospice, why that takes away $$$ from important things like the Louisiana Sand Barriers.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
68. What a piece of filth...one state over in Mississippi its just as bad....the American south
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:00 AM
Jan 2013

my region, my home is turning into a depressing, uninhabitable cesspool far worse than it was even 10 or 15 years ago.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
70. K&R
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:37 AM
Jan 2013

That little rat. I think he's the one that needs to be exorcized!
A Catholic one-man death panel. Now when the families of these poor suffering and dying medicaid patients take things into their own hands, they will be held responsible for their death. But not Bobby Jindal. Not Bobby Jindal. I don't care if there is a God or there is no God, PRAY that the Pope himself intercedes!!!!! Bobby Jindal needs to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church and ostracized out of politics forever. And every other Catholic politician who calls himself a Republican deserves the same.

I'm so sorry, southern_belle. I hope there will be a giant groundswell uproar over this. We really do need a good investigative news source that just flies around the country documenting atrocities like this on a daily basis. Either that or get DemocracyNow.org on cable. Yeah, call it CDNN: Cable Democracy Now News.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
72. Thank you ReRe
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jan 2013

Hopefully, the groundswell is happening now! I feel a lot more encouraged hearing from all of you. Maybe this will make the national news.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
75. Be strong!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jan 2013

... and keep doing what you're doing! We must not stand idly by and watch complacently as these red-state governors continue to eviscerate common sense fundamental American values.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
73. Just added this from the article
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:57 AM
Jan 2013

Louisiana will become one of only two states to eliminate Medicaid hospice. Arizona was in that mix, but has already reinstituted it because it costs more. "You're going to pick them up and bring them to the emergency room, to the hospital, which costs considerably more than the $140/day paid for by the state for the Medicaid program," said Phelps [Sherrill Phelps with the Louisiana-Mississippi Hospice Association].

There will be a candlelight vigil at the State Capitol steps Wednesday from 4:00 to 6:30 P.M. to protest the elimination of Medicaid hospice.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
76. What a fucking moron.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:18 AM
Jan 2013

At least the article goes where I was headed straight to.

Now, they'll be forced to go to ER and then admitted to ICU, where some doctor or other will feel the need to monitor all chemistries all the way down, and some poor phlebotomist will be forced to wake you every so many hours and vainly poke around searching for a vein that is still running.

Far, far more expensive. Far, far less comfort in your final hours.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
167. A sad and sickening thought of having a ward full of patient dying with a room full of weeping
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jan 2013

family member and friend visitors. What a nightmare of disgust and indignity brought on by that Vampire Jindal.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
79. One of the biggest fraudulent scumbags in American politics.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

I wish him nothing but the worst. What a piece of shit. Using the sick and frail as a means to make whatever political point you're trying to make is unacceptable. He is subhuman garbage, and that's being charitable.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
80. He is going to pay more when they go to the nursing home. He apparently does not understand why
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jan 2013

we created these at home services in the first place.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
81. I really wish I believed in hell right now, so I could visualize Jindal burning in it.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jan 2013

Along with every other humanity-hating rethuglican.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
83. K&R
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:38 PM
Jan 2013

Compassionate conservatism strikes again.

Walking, talking hypocrites-the lot of 'em.

Thank you southern belle.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
86. Hospice is kind. Hospice gives the patient dignity. Hospice is very cost effective.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jan 2013

I guess that is why they hate it.

People dying in the streets in America.

I imagine Jindal wishes he could just have a hurricane ethnically cleanse his state every so often.

I hate these rat fuckers.

 

beachgirl2365

(111 posts)
89. moves me to tears reading this!!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:14 PM
Jan 2013

Hospice was a God send in my mother's final moments of her cancer fight. I can't even begin to fathom or imagine how things would have went if they were not there for her,.... for us................ God bless those people that do this work,..................AND I have to believe that there is a special HELL for politicians that pull crap like this..............are you listening Rethuglicans?

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
99. I'm sorry about the loss of your mother
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jan 2013

but glad that she had the dignity and support of hospice care when it was needed.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
92. Stupid with the dental care for pregnant women
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jan 2013

I guess he doesn't realize that the infection from an abscessed tooth can get into the woman's bloodstream and then affect her fetus too.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
95. Unregulated Capitalism Has No Compassion
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jan 2013

Jindal is trying to run the State like a corporation and that means going for what is best for those at the top. And in this case that means ending Hospice care under Medicaid so he can give another tax cut to the already filthy rich. This total lack of compassion is the core principle of modern Republicanism so we can expect this assault on common decency to continue until they are crushed at the polls.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
97. You can only hope
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jan 2013

He gets untreatable cancer, that no pain meds can manage, and suffers a long lingering death. Or he could fix things.

He must be planning on tossing people in the street to die. Talk about your DEATH PANELS. This is it.

I've done hospice. Keeping someone comfortable and free of anxiety during their passing, is a privledge. I can't imagine letting someone suffer to death, even, Jindle, despite, my maniacal ravings.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
98. Ok, so he's a Catholic (he doesn't act like a Christian)
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jan 2013

Here's what I, a lapsed Catholic would do:

Write to his bishop
Get Sister Simone and the Nuns on the Bus group involved

And yes, I say write to the Pope.

Dirt wads like him want to hide behind their church, or parade it around when convenient. Well, I think there is a whole lot of "inconvenient" you could find for him in his church.


Just my two cents, and I am very sorry to hear this.

Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
100. Where are the bishops on this one?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:34 PM
Jan 2013

They are so quick to jump on the anti-gay and anti-birth control band wagon, why aren't they jumping on this.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
109. Good question.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

I think they are too busy making sure gays can't marry and that they or their friends pedestry is settled out of court-- oh yeah, and that anyone with a uterus is shamed for owning it.

That and it takes time and energy to shut nuns up.. those uterus bearing troublemakers; doing Christ's work-- who do they think they are?

Thus another one of the reasons I have big problems with my inherited religion and don't observe.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
104. You can tell a lot about a society by the way it treats its elderly
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jan 2013

I forget where I heard that from, but it is very true.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
113. Actually the elderly are covered under Medicare
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jan 2013

it's those of us under 65.

Cancers highest incidence of detection are in 40's-50's . And that is only one type of terminally ill-- there is kidney failure, congestive heart failure, liver failure, as well as some neuro-muscular diseases that send people to an earlier grave than usual.

Theses patients will be in hospitals, not nursing homes because the nursing homes won't take them. There are hospice nursing home beds but these patients (medicaid) will not qualify for them. How will the nursing home be paid and on what criteria? If the diagnosis is end of life care, that is hospice. Hospice educates family on end of life too. I've seen so much end of life planning fuck ups by regular medical personnel I have little confidence the great state of Louisiana will be able to sustain the length of these admissions and for sure, the suffering of the patient will increase as well as their susceptibility to hospital acquired infections. This will bring scores down in LA hospitals for customer satisfaction which decreases their overall Medicare reimbursement. I think you will see a reversal.

On the estate tax/sales tax-- people will be driven out of the state for that alone. They will shop for cars elsewhere and home purchases will decline.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
107. how
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jan 2013

in the hell can sensible, rational, thinking adults vote these evil people in and just cower as they are getting the shaft? I just don't understand the stupidity it takes to vote against ones own self interest. Synder in my state same kind of evil.

neffernin

(275 posts)
110. Hospice made my mother's passing much easier on her
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jan 2013

At the age of 49 she was losing the battle to breast cancer and it gave her the option to at least be around those she loved and be at home during the last few weeks of her life. It also made it more comfortable for the rest of us, as being at home is much more comfortable both physically and emotionally than being at the hospital.

Some people are just plain evil, and wish the worst upon everyone else if it will benefit them. It is these people who are not only doing their best to destroy America, but humanity in general.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
111. Republicans get more soul-less by the day.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:00 PM
Jan 2013

And this is the turd they cite as a possible Presidential candidate for 2016?



southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
123. Yup, that would be him. The
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jan 2013

same one the MSM gave kudo's to for being so reasonable back on November 15, 2012!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2012/11/15/jindal-walker-denounce-romneys-gifts-comments/

Two Republican governors shot down Mitt Romney’s comments about the “gifts” President Obama gave key constituencies to ensure their votes.
Those remarks were “absolutely wrong. We have got to stop dividing American voters,” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said Wednesday at a news conference at while attending the Republican Governors Association Conference in Las Vegas. “I absolutely reject that notion, that description. . . . We’re fighting for 100 percent of the vote.
“That’s not who we are as a party,” Jindal added. ”We shouldn’t view individuals as members of interest groups.”

Yea, right!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
112. How did your state become so red? I always thought it was a blue state.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:10 PM
Jan 2013

Remember when the representative from FL said that the republicans wanted you to hurry up and die. All hell broke loose. Republicans were on their high horse in congress. Well turns out he is right.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
121. the only blue part of the state
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jan 2013

is parts of South East Louisiana, including the city of New Orleans. Going north, it stops at Lake Ponchartrain as north of the Lake is very red.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
114. I am not 100% aligned with the Democratic Party, but the Republicans seem to desire
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jan 2013

the exact opposite of everything I desire on the topic of politics. From my political perspective, they're like some twisted joke. WTF?

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
118. I swear the GOP agenda is created by people sitting around making ..
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jan 2013

a list of the most mean heartless things they can think of.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
122. that is EXACTLY what they do
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jan 2013

like a bunch executives sitting around a table coming up with ways to lay people off - it's all "STRICTLY BUSINESS" with these bastards

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
124. and the cuts to physical, occupational and speech therapy
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jan 2013

I was doing physical therapy for the six weeks allowed every year as I have a degenerative, neurological, progressive disease and when the pain gets too bad or my legs or arms are getting weaker or it gets harder to walk any distance. It really helped. I'm angry, I'm upset. Sometimes it feels hopeless though I am feeling more encouraged with all the support from all of you.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
125. Wow, What A lack Of Empathy
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jan 2013

Cold, cold hearts over on the right - this is politically sociopathic. It's like the human beings impacted by this are only bugs to Jindal.

The eight wingers like to hit people over the head with bibles, but if there is really a Hell Bobby will be spending eternity down there.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
129. Why is Jindal trying to show his stuff, according to the Constitution is not eligible to run
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

for President anyhow. He was born in the US but not to parents who was citizens at the time of his birth, neither parent was a citizen.
I tried to tell kin folks in Louisiana they was making a mistake but they did not listen, now I don't have to try very hard to show he is not a good person.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
130. That's what happens when medically ignorant pricks
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jan 2013

get into power and try to practice medicine.

Somebody needs to grab him by the tie and not let go until he learns that hospice is the cheap way out, keeping people at home with drugs and occasional visits to help the family out. It's one hell of a lot cheaper than the alternative, hospitalizing people when the families can no longer cope.

Jindal is an idiot. He should be tarred and feathered for this one.

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
131. Ugh!
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jan 2013

What a horrid little man Jindal is. His cruel decision is impossible to fathom.

May this dark deed put an end to his aspirations for national office forever.


Hugs to you southern_belle.

Hope to read more about the vigil on the Capitol steps later.

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
137. Wish I could be there too
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

I hope the vigil today begins to shed a bright light on just what this jerk Jindal has in mind for the most vulnerable among us
-- the teminally ill.

Seriously, is this all he's got? Beating up on dying fellow citizens? Pathetic.

As you point out southern_belle a good and bright light of truth could help out here. Surely someone in the media could
speak up on behalf of hospice patients by simply publicizing this tragedy.

Hope that media folks are looking at this one.

The exorbitant and regressive sales tax is beyond belief as well. They just can't keep themselves from trying to punish
those who least deserve it, can they?

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
132. So that's the next big thing the Fucking red States...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

are going screw up!
You have to be one mean spirited, cold hearted sonuvabitch to be a goddamned Republican.

LW1977

(1,231 posts)
139. Medicaid for hospice patients, that's as ridiculous as volcano monitoring...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jan 2013

..but in all seriousness, what a f••kstick!

Burma Jones

(11,760 posts)
142. Now, you know there's just too many people taking advantage of the program
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:42 PM
Jan 2013

Why, some of them take more than a week to die, a week loungin' around in luxury on my dime....

Let 'em go die in a church somewhere...







just in case.....

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
154. I hate you, you heartless piece of crap.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

In fact, I will state for the record that I HATE Republicans. I hate them all.

Heartless fucks, the lot of them.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
169. Don't worry. I see Jindal as another canary in the coal mine.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:02 PM
Jan 2013

Republicans are self-destructing before our very eyes!

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
155. These people are shameless. Anyone who denies dying people comfort and care in their last days
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jan 2013

can burn in hell.

"Pro-life"????? Don't insult our intelligence.

southern_belle

(1,647 posts)
163. YAY!!! Maybe we had a little part in his backing down? Thank you
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jan 2013

my friends. Either way, I'm thrilled he is not going to cut it. Reading this has my crying (with relief) at the moment.

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