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It would be funny if Obama gets assassinated ? ...
... on MLK Day ? ...
just saying ? ...
Sheeesh .... a nation full of blood thirsty halfwits ....
Yeah ... unleash the gun lockers .....
Plenty more where that came from ....
How did half the nation acquire this blood lust ?
Unfuckingbelievable ....
(Add link: http://www.classwarfareexists.com/it-would-be-funny-if-obama-gets-assassinated-on-mlk-day-just-sayin/)
TDale313
(7,820 posts)bayareamike
(602 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And absolutely unjustified.
And racist.
And, I hope, worthy of attention of the Secret Service.
JI7
(89,241 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)I know a few libertarians and republicans and not one would indulge in such sick fantasies. They are moving on. Most are our political foes; a minority want to be our personal enemies.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Really; I don't care what you think about it ....
I'll use the analogy of 'half the voters voting for either party' as a cast, give or take two or three points either way ....
Nice that you try to blunt the message, though .... This message needed blunting, and there you were ...
Nice that your friends are moving on, too ... You just need more friends ....
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)go for it. I find hyperbole tedious.
There is no room to blunt the message in the OP but I refuse to paint an entire half of the population as reactionary extremists.
I have many many friends... most are democrats, socialists, and anarchists... and a few are libertarians and republicans. Fortunately, my liberal and leftist friends understand the power of gentle persuasion and, in social situations, never jumped to "you are a racist!", but engaged in thoughtful dialogue over specific issues and, in the process of doing so, managed to get a few of those libertarians and republicans to vote for Obama.
I do both phone and door to door canvassing during every election cycle... local, state, and federal... I'll take the time to talk issues with anyone from any political affiliation but what I won't do is walk away from a discussion with a republican because of a knee-jerk assumption that they are my enemy. There are other DUers who do this too. And they've posted their successes in perhaps moving a republican to the democrat side.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)is just a few percentage points.
Never mind that roughly half the people didn't even vote, and a significant chunk of people can't name the current president (I guess those people just wish this on "whatzhisname" .
Perhaps another analogy will help. Imagine you're playing horseshoes and you're trying to hit the stake 40' in front of you, but instead you throw it 100 miles in front of you. Close enough to measure, right?
These people are disgusting assholes of the highest level, but nothing truly "blunts the message" like ridiculous hyperbole.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)What is this ?... a court of law ?
I stand at opposition to the GOP .... As far as I am concerned; they ALL think like that .... Until proven otherwise: ANY of them that does not condemn vocal threats to the President, his cabinet, Liberals in general ... If they do not condemn that talk, then they tacitly condone it (much like Colin Powell noted last weekend) .... There have been little if any voice in the GOP that stands against violent threats to the President and his party ....
You go be mister nice guy ..... I'll stick to the 'ridiculous hyperbole', and shove it back in their face ...
They do nothing but shove your face in the mud anytime they have power, and YOU wanna be decent and respectful ??? ...
They, at long last, deserve polemic and ridicule .... I don't care if it's 'a few tweets' ....
I have been on this earth a long enough time to know that MANY I have come in contact with over the years think the same way ... MANY talk of using violence to rid themselves of Liberals/Democrats .... I have heard it all my life ...
Two are my brothers and one is my sister ... and countless acquaintances who lean right ....
You can lighten up on them, if you wish, but I am not beholden to believe these thoughts inhabit only 'a handful of tweets' ...
I know better than that .... They are everywhere ....
As a final note: I will never visit my sister's house again - She threatened to shoot any Obama supporter who crossed onto her property .... Even after pointing out that her own brother and sister support the President, she simply repeated her threat ...
How do you like them apples ? .... Sweet and nice !
trumad
(41,692 posts)And my opinion of your opinion that half the country wants to see Obama assassinated is pure hyperbole.
In trumad terms---pure bullshit.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I don't want to sound like a fool. I don't want to broad brush half of Americans (or more precisely, less than half of the people who voted which is only about half of the people in this country) by assuming they think exactly the same as a handful of psychos on twitter.
Such hyperbole sometimes has the unintended effect of making one sound close enough to the unbalanced people on the other side that it can be difficult to tell the two sides apart.
I don't expect repukes to comment on some 16 year old girl or some keyboard cowboy's idiotic tweets any more than I expect our president to comment on them. It would be nice to see them defend them, though, because then they'd be in a position of having to defend EVERYONE who doesn't like the president, and that could take up a lot of their time that would otherwise be spent fucking up the country.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Your philosophy appears to be guilty until proven innocent. Good thing you didn't/don't write the criminal laws.
Bake
Republican BAD
Democrat GOOD
You got a problem with that?
Too damned bad ... I'll leave it to you to be the republican apologist ...
Bake
(21,977 posts)But I'm intelligent enough not to paint with too broad a brush. Repub politicians? I lump most of them in the same pile ... the trash. Private citizens? Not so much, until they demonstrate they need to be in that pile.
All you're doing is coming off as an absolutist. Like the President said, being an absolutist doesn't necessarily mean principle.
Bake
VenusRising
(11,252 posts)No, really. I wish I could figure it out. So many people take pride in their ignorance these days. It's sickening.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)There. Now no one will think he's not a damned sociopath.
Claybrains
(132 posts)You ever what other people were thinking? Well thanks to social media we can. Keeping posting idiots.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)How many people are on.that list.
0rganism
(23,932 posts)my nightmare is their jackoff fantasy.
oh well, i hope these sick fucks enjoy their richly deserved notoriety and occasional visits from Agent Smith.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Arguing with the JennaRose Chadwick's of the world is a waste of effort. It's really better to just keep them away from sharp objects and nod at them approvingly.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)One we can ignore, the other we cannot.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Hopefully, when the secret service pays a friendly visit, they'll ask a few questions about any firearms present in the household.
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Trajan
(19,089 posts)These dangerous fools need to be exposed ...
I have no fear bringing this to light ... my political leanings are worn on my sleeve ... I am appalled by these postings ... they turn my stomach ...
Socal31
(2,484 posts)The flag would be cleared immediately after review. I was referring to the idiots posting the original content on Twitter, as if the NSA hasn't flagged grouped key-words for decades. Not the people here shedding light on it.
You don't need to be a conspiracy nut to believe it, it is published.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...from humorless men in bad suits.
Initech
(100,043 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)What is these people's problem?
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)really wish for them to come true. I believe they are just idiots who think they're clever, cute, and funny. It's amazing how stupid some people are. The difference between these people and their parents is that when their parents were their age, only their teachers and smart friends knew how stupid they really were. Social media exposes the lowest of the low in the brains/common sense of people.
An aside, I find it amazing how dense some people are. On the Jaywalking segment of the Tonight Show, Jay asked a young schoolteacher how many stars were on a flag, the camera then panned up to an American flag waving in the breeze. She responded with "I can't tell, it's moving around too much".
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Even in private ? ....
I am a pacifist by nature, and would never consider resorting to violence .... Nor have I ever condoned it, in public or in private ...
I have never wished anybody dead in my whole life .... Have you ? ... Have you ever threatened anybody with homicidal violence ? ... Why do you think it's so natural ?
I'll let you be the nice person ... I am done with their bullshit .... Let them own it ...
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)to be assassinated. I don't wish a lot of people dead. I had a friend get raped in 1992 and I wished that guu dead. He ended up in prison buy I have no idea if he's still there.
I just don't think the people sending these Tweets are necessarily homicidal or even Republican.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but never wished such a thing.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I was as digusted by Craig Kilborn when he made a joke about killing Bush (he showed a picture of Bush with "Snipers Wanted" flashing on it, if I remember correctly), as I am by this crap.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:13 AM - Edit history (1)
they sound like barbarians from the middle ages, itching for the kill.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Or twitter inc may have some 'splainin to do....
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)enjoying that they are so miserable that hate rules & ruins their lives. I had that hate myself when Raygun was president and now I look back and am disgusted, I let myself become so bitter for so many years. It was such a waste, I only hurt myself.
cali
(114,904 posts)their schools. I want them to suffer job loss and getting kicked out of school and being ostracized. I want the Secret Service crawling up their vile bigoted asses. I want their twitter remarks to destroy their lives. completely.
yes, it makes me that angry.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)have ever lived through a presidential assassination, and understand how deeply disturbing it can be. I was a young child when JFK was assassinated, but I can still remember the shock and fear that was in the air. And of course RFK and MLK as well. And I'll stand behind no one in my loathing for Reagan, but on the day that he was shot I was stunned and sickened until it became clear that he'd survive. There is nothing as devastating to the national psyche than an assassination.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)and got a LOT of grief, so there are some good people out there who answered her vile tweet.
https://twitter.com/search?q=its_jennarose&src=tyah
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)malaise
(268,724 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)No, I just can't imagine why they would be posted on a Democratic talk site, where they might be noticed and receive the sort of official action they so richly deserve.
(Sarcasm alert, for those in need.)
malaise
(268,724 posts)appropriate
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)You have reposted dangerous, illegal calls to assassinate the President. The only place this belongs is with the Secret Service.
Turbineguy
(37,296 posts)having to live in your Mom's basement and watching Fox News will do that to you.
The first doesn't know what irony is, the second is ironic (Someone named LittleWayne is a racist), the third it's pretty much even odds that's a Tapout wifebeater he's wearing.
BTW, you might want to either self-delete or edit your title. The question mark won't stop you from being flagged right along with these hateful idiots.
I don't really fear being "flagged" in that all of my postings in DU and elsewhere condemn violence explicitly ... I am pacifist, and have always been pacifist throughout my life ... My record is clear of any use of threatening language when referring to the government, or of any officials of any organisation of any type ...
Threats like those displayed have never been expressed by me towards anybody .. ever ...
That being said; I will resist calls to remove them wholesale from this thread ... Everybody should be aware of what is being said and by whom ... These are real threats from real people, and I find them absolutely chilling when we consider the ease at which they are cast out in public .... Each of those tweets should be shown, not only to the authorities, but to every Democrat and republican so we are all aware of what kind of threats are being made and by whom, so nobody can pretend this level of rancor and hatred does not exist.
These cockroaches need the light of day to shine on their hateful little lives ...
I changed the title, but the thread stands as testament to the reality of this hatred ...
I will remove the thread if requested by David, Dave or Brian.
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)by editing your OP to talk about threats rather than visually reproducing them. What you have done is give greater voice to those calling for the murder of the President.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)and I do not agree with your opinion
Feel free to have that opinion ...
That notion that we must hide the vicious threats of our opponents so we don't inflame them runs counter to the notion that we need to expose them in order to reveal them ...
Let's not hide from this ... Let's show what they are made of ...
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)I fear that advertising those threats as you have spreads their readership. Tweets are not searchable on Google. DU threads are. The more people who see these things, the more dangerous it is to the President. You could present the same information by taking a few minutes to compose a thread and not further endanger the President's life. If the threats are dangerous, spreading them to a wider readership is dangerous as well.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Luckily most young adults don't parrot their parents like these unfortunate twits. Their parents obviously failed them and now they are polluting society. In this day and age, there is no excuse for this kind of ignorance.
DinahMoeHum
(21,776 posts). . .'cause employers/potential employers DO look at Facebook and Twitter accounts, looking for excuses to fire or not to hire assholes like yourselves.
Just sayin'.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)The day JFK was assassinated, a biology teacher at our school, a Mr. Vanlandingham, said that it was the best thing that could have happened to the country to get rid of the Kennedys. There were a lot of happy conservatives that day. Elated even.
It was common to hear speeches imploring the Congress to "Impeach Earl Warren" because the Warren Court upheld Brown vs. Board. The racial hate is baked into the minds of the insecure haters who need to feel "superior" in a very sick way; but they out themselves to the sane world.