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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:20 PM Jan 2012

Mittens: I’ve performed ‘posthumous Mormon baptisms’…but not recently

http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2012/01/26/mittens-ive-performed-posthumous-mormon-baptisms-but-not-recently/

‘I have in my life, but I haven’t recently.’

–Mitt Romney to Newsweek magazine when asked if he personally had performed ‘posthumous baptisms’ on anyone.

Man, when the sh*t hits the fan, GOP Clown Car occupant Mittens is right there in the path of flying feces. He has studiously avoided speaking about his Mormon faith lest he bring on the wrath of the evangelicals (as we saw in SC, avoidance didn’t quell fundie suspicions about him), but the circus elephant is still in the room.

It’s in the news because now that the Florida primary is next — and it is a state that is home to a significant Jewish population; I don’t see how this story at Huffington Post is going to help Romney, since he’s on the record as a devout Mormon — and he admits that he has performed posthumous baptisms as part of his faith.

The religious rite is proxy baptism for the dead. According to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormon Church, these posthumous “blessings” are intended to “save” ancestors and others who weren’t baptized in life or were baptized “without proper authority.”

…In 2007, when Romney made his first run for the Republican nomination, NECN in Hartford, Conn., asked him about baptizing the dead. He said he is “not a cafeteria Mormon” and adheres to all tenets of his faith. But Romney, a former bishop and top church official in Boston, referred specific questions to religious leaders.

When Newsweek magazine asked Romney if he personally had performed posthumous baptisms on anyone, author Jonathan Darman wrote, “he looked slightly startled and answered, ‘I have in my life, but I haven’t recently.’ The awareness of how odd this will sound to many Americans is what makes Romney hesitant to elaborate on the Mormon question.”

There was no mention, and it is not known, whether the people that Romney personally baptized were Jewish.

Requests for comment by Romney campaign and the Mormon Church were not answered.

Complicating matters is that the practice has been the focus of negotiations between Mormon and Jewish leaders to stop the posthumous baptism of all Jews for some time, leading to an agreement in 1995. The problem is that the baptisms/Mormon conversions continued.
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Mittens: I’ve performed ‘posthumous Mormon baptisms’…but not recently (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2012 OP
If Mittens posthumously Babtized Holocaust dead, I promise it won't do much for him MidwestTransplant Jan 2012 #1
"WTF? Where am I? I was perfectly happy with the heaven I was in!" n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #2
Whether they're Jewish or not, this will piss off a lot of people. Brickbat Jan 2012 #3
Paticularly, dead ones. immoderate Jan 2012 #4
"Joseph Smith was called a prophet, dum dum dum dum dum". . . Journeyman Jan 2012 #5
I guess if you have tons of money, are white and conservative, you can pretty much get away with WCGreen Jan 2012 #7
CULT Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #6
Just like all organized religion. Arugula Latte Jan 2012 #10
Heh. Yup. Shadowflash Jan 2012 #12
I doubt this is going to be a huge deal. WI_DEM Jan 2012 #8
Actually Jewish people and Fundy Christians MattBaggins Jan 2012 #9
As a jew, I despise the moron church. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #11
Bwahahaha GOP is the "circus elephant". snagglepuss Jan 2012 #13
I betcha anything he has posthumously baptized some Jews. kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #14

MidwestTransplant

(8,015 posts)
1. If Mittens posthumously Babtized Holocaust dead, I promise it won't do much for him
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jan 2012

with Evangelicals and Jews. Florida would be out of play in the General Election.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
7. I guess if you have tons of money, are white and conservative, you can pretty much get away with
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jan 2012

anything if you sprinkle in just enough Jesus between the Old Testament and Revelation

MattBaggins

(7,898 posts)
9. Actually Jewish people and Fundy Christians
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jan 2012

are quite angry about this practice.

The question though is were they considering voting for him?

Muskypundit

(717 posts)
11. As a jew, I despise the moron church.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jan 2012

It's sacrilege and insulting for them to baptise my people when they have no choice. They have no respect for anything, and while maybe I feel like I might be being discriminatory, it was also the Mormon church that officially hated blacks until the 80's I believe. It's only unofficial hate now.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
14. I betcha anything he has posthumously baptized some Jews.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jan 2012

It was ALL the rage among TBMs for a long time.

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