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Look them in the eye,say please and thank you.
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Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)I was a server as my husband and sons. We do give good tips..usually 20 percent or more.
There are some poor servers, those who seem to not get things right or are very grouchy but even those I give a smile to and a 15 percent tip.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)monmouth
(21,078 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)They don't turn into vile specimens just because they are standing on a different side of the counter than you are.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Remember Me
(1,532 posts)rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)My daughter works at a movie theater and she has said that people who are scurrying across the lobby to get to their movie pretty much act like that she and her co workers are in their way, run into them, don't make any kind if attempt at eye contact or real communication with them.
She just wants a happy medium between normal polite acknowledgement and prolonged awkward conversations....the workers are told by their management to do "upsell" offers when ringing up a customer's order. Problem is, whenever my daughter suggests a large instead of the ordered medium drink, every other customer feels a need to explain their BLADDER habits...saying "no or no thank you" doesn't suffice..they have to explain in somewhat nasty details about their bladder habits/ bladder size and how getting a large drink would make it impossible for them to sit thru the movie without frequent bathroom trips and missing parts of the movie...
mythology
(9,527 posts)If nothing else, it reduces the likelihood of somebody messing with my food and it makes them more likely to get my various alterations correctly.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)And I absolutely HATE being with someone at a restaurant who does not follow the same protocol. To me, it is exceedingly rude and small to take out frustrations and anger on the wait staff, yet I have known people to do just that.
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I tip a minimum of 20%-25%.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)I know how hard they work and how much they depend on my tips for a living. They sure don't work there for the bare minimum wages.
Spazito
(50,283 posts)It is the least one can do to be courteous and polite. Serving is very physical, hard on the feet to say the least.
but you get the manners and tips you earn. Just like everybody else.
Swede
(33,233 posts)What a rotten world you must inhabit.
kctim
(3,575 posts)if they are not, rudeness in response to your own rudeness is warranted.
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)she was sour, slow, and careless.
I choose a little differently than you though. I figure I'm not letting anyone really ruin my day by way of allowing myself to become rude, but I consider the patience with their rudeness + 3 pennies their entire tip.
Kellerfeller
(397 posts)"Do unto other as they do unto you". That's how it goes, right?
Unfortunately, the lowest common denominator wins on that one.
Just be friendly. If they don't respond, so what? I've talked to people who've said that sometimes the impact of that friendly and polite interaction doesn't manifest a response until minutes or hours after we've left. I've seen it happen as well.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)How someone else acts is a reflection on them.
If other people want to be assholes, that's their prerogative.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)someone might be worrying about a sick child or spouse or parent.
Maybe the person actually has a disabled parent living at home with him/her and s/he is tired and stressed and doesn't realize the rude demeanor.
We never know what someone else might be going through, and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
My daughter learned that one day years ago when she confronted a man who lived in the same apartment complex. Had a nasty argument with him out in the parking lot over something or other he said or did. He apologized and said he didn't mean whatever it was he said or did, but he had just recently found out he had lung cancer or something.
She felt awful for having called him some nasty names during the argument.
We just never know what's going on with people, and how we treat others is a huge reflection on our own characters.
REP
(21,691 posts)Well, really anyone working in a service job - all deserve courtesy at a minimum, even if they do a less than stellar job.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)K&R
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Who would ever treat people otherwise? Serving staff or whoever... why?
The only reason I can think of is that the person being rude that way is an arrogant jerk.
Swede
(33,233 posts)No "thank you" when they refill the water glass,no eye contact. It's really quite common,once you take note of it.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Some people are desperate for status, and if they can look down their nose at someone and demand to be treated as their 'better', many will do just that. It's sickening, and I do consider them all arrogant jerks.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)If you don't want to interrupt a dining companion.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)a woman said that she judged men she dated by how they treated the wait staff. If they were dismissive or rude, she wouldn't go out with them again. (Was that you? ~lol)
I used to go to lunch with a co-worker who was dismissive with the wait staff. When she got promoted, the employees that reported to her hated her. I wasn't surprised.
Swede
(33,233 posts)I use it to judge folks.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)but I would definitely dump a guy for acting like a jerk, and that's definitely jerk behavior.
And yeah, I'm sure she treated the people who reported to her with that same dismissive attitude. Bleah.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, they tip really well.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)Tikki
(14,556 posts)overtime and great on that. Some don't.
But in most cases they have given up time with family and friends.
"Hey, thanks for working today, I don't know what I would
have done if I didn't have a place to go to get extra (___) today."
Tikki
nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)to thank and compliment the techs, the nurses and the dr. Bad enough having to work on a holiday, worse having to care for a grown ass adult who drank too much.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)Noodleboy13
(422 posts)As a cook I have amazing respect for servers. They have to move fast, be efficient and polite, despite often being treated like servants by their tables. Cooks have to work fast and efficiently, but we are somehow allowed to throw tantrums and say "motherfucker" as much as we want.
Peace
Noodleboy
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)By your command, SIR!
Swede
(33,233 posts)nt
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)... I just thought that your command to be polite was a little ironic and struck me as funny.
And I agree with you. I am always polite and gracious to those who are helping me. I do say thank you when the server pours my water or brings the check. That's just the way I am and was taught. It even brought some strange comments from some colleagues when traveling in Europe, who said I was being way too respectful to servants.
Sorry if you thought I was disagreeing. The SIR, YES SIR! thing is just a relic of my military days.
Swede
(33,233 posts)I apologise.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Unless they physically assault you, you owe them at least 15%
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Cause times are hard, but also because I think that's the current standard for gratuity in major cities.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Regrettably, it's usually not good manners.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)We always treat wait staff nicely. We only stop acting nice when they are just plain bad. We still tip, but we're not close to as sociable.
Other than that, it's always pleasntries and cordial conversation.
GAC
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Based upon the way he treats debate moderators who, like servers, must sit and take it, it can't be pretty.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)It seems as though they are in short supply nowadays.
Dragonbreathp9d
(2,542 posts)Sick and tired of people not acknowledging I am a human being and asking for a million little things every time I come up to the table- seriously- when you asked for that lemon you didn't know you needed mustard? And then mayo? And then ketchup? And then- .... I coul bring them
All at once instead of making other people wait for their service. Also- if the bar is busy- don't snap your fingers, don't go "hey hey hey! Can I get uuuuuuuhhhhhh" know what you want when you get my attention if we're slammed. Most of the time a single raised fonger or eye brow up head nodded back is enough And have your money ready to go. Serving 3000 people in a night is hard work.
More than anything: IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO TIP YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO GO OUT!!!!!!
20% is for good service
15% for good but mediocre
25% for amazing!
Bar tip rates- $ a drink. 1 measly dollar per drink you order- an I garuntee you will probably get priority if not hooked up
YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)It's how you repay that niceness as to how far you get. And that goes for anyone.
upi402
(16,854 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)Always 'around' 15% tips, good or bad, I don't care. (Although, very rarely bad.)
MissB
(15,805 posts)"Oh, Thank you verymuch" with a smile and eye contact because I don't take them for granted.
Iggo
(47,549 posts)Edweird
(8,570 posts)Ok, seriously - I've worked in the service industry and I know what it's like to be on that end. I treat them with the same respect and understanding I like to receive.
upi402
(16,854 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)is cleaning or has just cleaned, thank him/her/them.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I've been on both sides of the table and they are as human as you are, sometimes, they are even better humans that we can manage to be but at least fake it til you make it. Golden rule, through and through. And if you have to explain this to a repub who thinks the wait staff is beneath him, then just remind him that these people have access to his food before he does and he might just get a little something extra.It's better to be nice to people because we're all somewhat human but when all else fails, go for the self preservation angle.