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Show your manners to serving staff. (Original Post) Swede Jan 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #1
I agree, and I always do. They're not slaves. They're employees. I'm a very good tipper. nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #2
Always. Respect. nt gateley Jan 2012 #3
I always do riverbendviewgal Jan 2012 #4
K&R Treat them, and everyone else, with dignity and respect. Scuba Jan 2012 #5
If possible,let their manager know you were pleased with their service...n/t monmouth Jan 2012 #6
Agree fully. They are employees just like you are Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #7
Reminds me of a photo I saw today. Life Long Dem Jan 2012 #8
I love that pic! redqueen Jan 2012 #23
Aww, very cool nt Remember Me Jan 2012 #48
I try to make a point of doing that with all workers...cashiers, movie theater workers rainbow4321 Jan 2012 #9
I always try my best to do that mythology Jan 2012 #10
Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. hamsterjill Jan 2012 #11
That's good advice for anyone that you interact with. Common courtesy is a good thing. Arkansas Granny Jan 2012 #12
15% is what I give when the service is not good. If it's horrible I go to the manager else... LynneSin Jan 2012 #13
+100000000 Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #43
Same here. Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #50
Absolutely! Spazito Jan 2012 #14
Sorry kctim Jan 2012 #15
Sorry,nobody has to earn manners,they should be given freely. Swede Jan 2012 #16
Manners should be "given freely" AND RETURNED kctim Jan 2012 #19
Yep, we had one last eve. Tried and tried to be cheerful and compliment her, but nope, Lionessa Jan 2012 #21
Oh, I remember that one Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #27
No it's not. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #35
I am polite to everyone. How I act is a reflection on me. NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #28
I agree...plus... pipi_k Jan 2012 #52
And sales staff - another hard job REP Jan 2012 #17
Yes, always do. closeupready Jan 2012 #18
Shouldn't that be "Please, show your manners to serving staff. Thank you" ? Lionessa Jan 2012 #20
My first thought: Why wouldn't I? redqueen Jan 2012 #22
Watch how many people don't even acknowledge waiting staff. Swede Jan 2012 #24
Oh yes, I know it is. redqueen Jan 2012 #25
Even just a nod and a smile os fine obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #56
In a thread on manners on the old DU, CrispyQ Jan 2012 #39
It is a measure of the man,or woman. Swede Jan 2012 #57
LOL... I dunno, I don't remember saying it... redqueen Jan 2012 #62
Lobbyists have perfected the art of doing so with politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #26
Good one! CrispyQ Jan 2012 #59
I try to always thank those who work on Holidays...I know some get... Tikki Jan 2012 #29
I was an idiot and ended up in the ER this past Christmas, I made it a point nadine_mn Jan 2012 #58
That made me laugh. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #61
Agreed. There's a reason I work Back of the House (BOH) rather than the front. Noodleboy13 Jan 2012 #30
Yes SIR! oldhippie Jan 2012 #31
You don't have to be a jerk. Swede Jan 2012 #32
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be a jerk .... oldhippie Jan 2012 #41
I was a little snippy. Swede Jan 2012 #53
And always tip AT LEAST 15% Taverner Jan 2012 #33
I usually tip 20%. redqueen Jan 2012 #34
I see people show their manners all the time. gkhouston Jan 2012 #36
No Problem From Me ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #37
Imagine how Newt must treat the wait staff pokerfan Jan 2012 #38
I agree... tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #40
THANK YOU! And know EVERYTHING you need when you ask for something Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #42
I start out nice to everyone. YellowRubberDuckie Jan 2012 #44
^ upi402 Jan 2012 #55
Second nature for moi, monsieur. Amonester Jan 2012 #45
I always say MissB Jan 2012 #46
Goddam fuckin-A right. Iggo Jan 2012 #47
Damn straight. The urine content of my soup is important to me. Edweird Jan 2012 #49
^ Wilms Jan 2012 #51
... and eat less spit.. n/t upi402 Jan 2012 #54
And when you enter a public restroom and the janitorial staff joeybee12 Jan 2012 #60
I'm very, very sorry this needed to be a subject actually up for discussion tavalon Jan 2012 #63
K and R bigwillq Jan 2012 #64

Response to Swede (Original post)

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
4. I always do
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jan 2012

I was a server as my husband and sons. We do give good tips..usually 20 percent or more.

There are some poor servers, those who seem to not get things right or are very grouchy but even those I give a smile to and a 15 percent tip.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
7. Agree fully. They are employees just like you are
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jan 2012

They don't turn into vile specimens just because they are standing on a different side of the counter than you are.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
9. I try to make a point of doing that with all workers...cashiers, movie theater workers
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jan 2012

My daughter works at a movie theater and she has said that people who are scurrying across the lobby to get to their movie pretty much act like that she and her co workers are in their way, run into them, don't make any kind if attempt at eye contact or real communication with them.

She just wants a happy medium between normal polite acknowledgement and prolonged awkward conversations....the workers are told by their management to do "upsell" offers when ringing up a customer's order. Problem is, whenever my daughter suggests a large instead of the ordered medium drink, every other customer feels a need to explain their BLADDER habits...saying "no or no thank you" doesn't suffice..they have to explain in somewhat nasty details about their bladder habits/ bladder size and how getting a large drink would make it impossible for them to sit thru the movie without frequent bathroom trips and missing parts of the movie...





 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
10. I always try my best to do that
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jan 2012

If nothing else, it reduces the likelihood of somebody messing with my food and it makes them more likely to get my various alterations correctly.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
11. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jan 2012

And I absolutely HATE being with someone at a restaurant who does not follow the same protocol. To me, it is exceedingly rude and small to take out frustrations and anger on the wait staff, yet I have known people to do just that.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
13. 15% is what I give when the service is not good. If it's horrible I go to the manager else...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:15 PM
Jan 2012

I tip a minimum of 20%-25%.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
50. Same here.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jan 2012

I know how hard they work and how much they depend on my tips for a living. They sure don't work there for the bare minimum wages.

Spazito

(50,283 posts)
14. Absolutely!
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jan 2012

It is the least one can do to be courteous and polite. Serving is very physical, hard on the feet to say the least.

Swede

(33,233 posts)
16. Sorry,nobody has to earn manners,they should be given freely.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:40 PM
Jan 2012

What a rotten world you must inhabit.

 

kctim

(3,575 posts)
19. Manners should be "given freely" AND RETURNED
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jan 2012

if they are not, rudeness in response to your own rudeness is warranted.

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
21. Yep, we had one last eve. Tried and tried to be cheerful and compliment her, but nope,
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:35 PM
Jan 2012

she was sour, slow, and careless.

I choose a little differently than you though. I figure I'm not letting anyone really ruin my day by way of allowing myself to become rude, but I consider the patience with their rudeness + 3 pennies their entire tip.

 

Kellerfeller

(397 posts)
27. Oh, I remember that one
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jan 2012

"Do unto other as they do unto you". That's how it goes, right?

Unfortunately, the lowest common denominator wins on that one.

Just be friendly. If they don't respond, so what? I've talked to people who've said that sometimes the impact of that friendly and polite interaction doesn't manifest a response until minutes or hours after we've left. I've seen it happen as well.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
28. I am polite to everyone. How I act is a reflection on me.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jan 2012

How someone else acts is a reflection on them.

If other people want to be assholes, that's their prerogative.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
52. I agree...plus...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jan 2012

someone might be worrying about a sick child or spouse or parent.

Maybe the person actually has a disabled parent living at home with him/her and s/he is tired and stressed and doesn't realize the rude demeanor.

We never know what someone else might be going through, and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

My daughter learned that one day years ago when she confronted a man who lived in the same apartment complex. Had a nasty argument with him out in the parking lot over something or other he said or did. He apologized and said he didn't mean whatever it was he said or did, but he had just recently found out he had lung cancer or something.

She felt awful for having called him some nasty names during the argument.

We just never know what's going on with people, and how we treat others is a huge reflection on our own characters.

REP

(21,691 posts)
17. And sales staff - another hard job
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jan 2012

Well, really anyone working in a service job - all deserve courtesy at a minimum, even if they do a less than stellar job.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
22. My first thought: Why wouldn't I?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jan 2012

Who would ever treat people otherwise? Serving staff or whoever... why?

The only reason I can think of is that the person being rude that way is an arrogant jerk.

Swede

(33,233 posts)
24. Watch how many people don't even acknowledge waiting staff.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jan 2012

No "thank you" when they refill the water glass,no eye contact. It's really quite common,once you take note of it.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
25. Oh yes, I know it is.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jan 2012

Some people are desperate for status, and if they can look down their nose at someone and demand to be treated as their 'better', many will do just that. It's sickening, and I do consider them all arrogant jerks.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
39. In a thread on manners on the old DU,
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jan 2012

a woman said that she judged men she dated by how they treated the wait staff. If they were dismissive or rude, she wouldn't go out with them again. (Was that you? ~lol)

I used to go to lunch with a co-worker who was dismissive with the wait staff. When she got promoted, the employees that reported to her hated her. I wasn't surprised.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
62. LOL... I dunno, I don't remember saying it...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jan 2012

but I would definitely dump a guy for acting like a jerk, and that's definitely jerk behavior.

And yeah, I'm sure she treated the people who reported to her with that same dismissive attitude. Bleah.

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
29. I try to always thank those who work on Holidays...I know some get...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jan 2012

overtime and great on that. Some don't.
But in most cases they have given up time with family and friends.

"Hey, thanks for working today, I don't know what I would
have done if I didn't have a place to go to get extra (___) today."



Tikki

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
58. I was an idiot and ended up in the ER this past Christmas, I made it a point
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:46 AM
Jan 2012

to thank and compliment the techs, the nurses and the dr. Bad enough having to work on a holiday, worse having to care for a grown ass adult who drank too much.

Noodleboy13

(422 posts)
30. Agreed. There's a reason I work Back of the House (BOH) rather than the front.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jan 2012

As a cook I have amazing respect for servers. They have to move fast, be efficient and polite, despite often being treated like servants by their tables. Cooks have to work fast and efficiently, but we are somehow allowed to throw tantrums and say "motherfucker" as much as we want.


Peace
Noodleboy

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
41. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be a jerk ....
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jan 2012

... I just thought that your command to be polite was a little ironic and struck me as funny.

And I agree with you. I am always polite and gracious to those who are helping me. I do say thank you when the server pours my water or brings the check. That's just the way I am and was taught. It even brought some strange comments from some colleagues when traveling in Europe, who said I was being way too respectful to servants.

Sorry if you thought I was disagreeing. The SIR, YES SIR! thing is just a relic of my military days.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
34. I usually tip 20%.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jan 2012

Cause times are hard, but also because I think that's the current standard for gratuity in major cities.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
37. No Problem From Me
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jan 2012

We always treat wait staff nicely. We only stop acting nice when they are just plain bad. We still tip, but we're not close to as sociable.

Other than that, it's always pleasntries and cordial conversation.
GAC

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
38. Imagine how Newt must treat the wait staff
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:59 PM
Jan 2012

Based upon the way he treats debate moderators who, like servers, must sit and take it, it can't be pretty.

Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)
42. THANK YOU! And know EVERYTHING you need when you ask for something
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jan 2012

Sick and tired of people not acknowledging I am a human being and asking for a million little things every time I come up to the table- seriously- when you asked for that lemon you didn't know you needed mustard? And then mayo? And then ketchup? And then- .... I coul bring them
All at once instead of making other people wait for their service. Also- if the bar is busy- don't snap your fingers, don't go "hey hey hey! Can I get uuuuuuuhhhhhh" know what you want when you get my attention if we're slammed. Most of the time a single raised fonger or eye brow up head nodded back is enough And have your money ready to go. Serving 3000 people in a night is hard work.

More than anything: IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO TIP YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO GO OUT!!!!!!
20% is for good service
15% for good but mediocre
25% for amazing!

Bar tip rates- $ a drink. 1 measly dollar per drink you order- an I garuntee you will probably get priority if not hooked up

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
44. I start out nice to everyone.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 07:57 PM
Jan 2012

It's how you repay that niceness as to how far you get. And that goes for anyone.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
45. Second nature for moi, monsieur.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:03 PM
Jan 2012

Always 'around' 15% tips, good or bad, I don't care. (Although, very rarely bad.)

MissB

(15,805 posts)
46. I always say
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jan 2012

"Oh, Thank you verymuch" with a smile and eye contact because I don't take them for granted.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
49. Damn straight. The urine content of my soup is important to me.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:01 PM
Jan 2012

Ok, seriously - I've worked in the service industry and I know what it's like to be on that end. I treat them with the same respect and understanding I like to receive.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
60. And when you enter a public restroom and the janitorial staff
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jan 2012

is cleaning or has just cleaned, thank him/her/them.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
63. I'm very, very sorry this needed to be a subject actually up for discussion
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:36 PM
Jan 2012

I've been on both sides of the table and they are as human as you are, sometimes, they are even better humans that we can manage to be but at least fake it til you make it. Golden rule, through and through. And if you have to explain this to a repub who thinks the wait staff is beneath him, then just remind him that these people have access to his food before he does and he might just get a little something extra.It's better to be nice to people because we're all somewhat human but when all else fails, go for the self preservation angle.

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