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blm

(113,044 posts)
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:29 PM Jan 2013

Were the 'security experts' in charge of embassy security appointed by SecOfState or in career jobs?

I really hope some policy wonks familiar with State Department infrastructure can answer that question. From HRC's testimony it seems that the security experts were relied upon heavily and given considerable say over priorities and procedure.

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blm

(113,044 posts)
4. I mean the security team AT the State Dept. who are in charge of overseas security decisions.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jan 2013

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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. From memory
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jan 2013

from previous mention here they were the reponsibility of the State Dept. Not sure if that answers your question or not.

blm

(113,044 posts)
3. Yes, but, many at State are career personnel, just like Dept of Justice and ATF.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:12 PM
Jan 2013

That is why I am wondering specifically about the security experts in charge.

Luciferous

(6,078 posts)
5. I don't know about Libya, but my father-in-law used to work for the
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jan 2013

State Department as head of security at various embassies, and he had a lot of say in the security procedures of the embassies he worked in.

blm

(113,044 posts)
6. My question is whether or not these top security experts are in CAREER positions or get appointed
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jan 2013

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by Sec of State. Do you know if your father-in-law was appointed to his position or was he a career state department worker? Could you ask him how these current security experts get placed in these jobs?

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moondust

(19,972 posts)
9. Does it matter?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jan 2013

Somebody estimated the security needs but in this case it turned out to be inadequate. Shit happens sometimes.

I doubt that the SoS appoints security professionals since those are not political positions.

blm

(113,044 posts)
10. That's why it does matter. GOP insists on placing blame on HRC and Obama for decisions that are NOT
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jan 2013

historically their decisions IF the security experts were career positions with the autonomy to make these decisions as they see fit.

And, one would expect, that GOP lawmakers would be plenty aware of this by now.

Response to blm (Reply #10)

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
12. State has security experts, but local security is contracted out
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jan 2013

State's budget for security is authorized by Congress, and Republicans have consistently underfunded the department's requests. SoS Clinton today called for Congress to drop 'lowest bid' requirements and allow State to consider other factors.

blm

(113,044 posts)
13. Thanks. Still curious if the security experts who DID make the decisions at State for overseas
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jan 2013

security, were hired or appointed before or after 2009.

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