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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 01:56 PM Jan 2012

Jamie Oliver sucessfully forces McDonalds to stop using ammonium hydroxide in burgers/

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McDonald's have altered the ingredients after the Naked Chef forced them to remove a processed food type that he labelled 'pink slime'.

The food activist was shocked when he learned that ammonium hydroxide was being used by McDonald's to convert fatty beef offcuts into a beef filler for its burgers in the USA.

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'Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold at the cheapest form for dogs and after this process we can give it to humans' said the TV chef.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092127/Jamie-Oliver-Victory-McDonalds-stops-using-pink-slime-burger-recipe.html#ixzz1kaWotNuk











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Jamie Oliver sucessfully forces McDonalds to stop using ammonium hydroxide in burgers/ (Original Post) snagglepuss Jan 2012 OP
What about Taco Bell and the many other fast food restaurants doing the same? hlthe2b Jan 2012 #1
Yah, he makes McD do the Oliver twist. WingDinger Jan 2012 #2
I guess Jamie is not going to be fixing lutefisk... izquierdista Jan 2012 #3
Hu? Lye is not ammonia n/t FreeState Jan 2012 #16
"converting fatty beef offcuts" izquierdista Jan 2012 #18
Uffda. TahitiNut Jan 2012 #21
Don't have time to read now, but GREAT news. I stopped eating.... chaska Jan 2012 #4
I too gave up eating burgers years ago but I always assumed that snagglepuss Jan 2012 #5
... progressoid Jan 2012 #6
That's an interesting clip. Is Kenndey saying that pink slime is also in regular ground snagglepuss Jan 2012 #9
Yes, it often is obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #12
I very rarely eat meat but others in my family do. I'm shocked this is allowed. snagglepuss Jan 2012 #15
We don't eat that crap upi402 Jan 2012 #7
Gross! Quantess Jan 2012 #8
Now let's stop feeding it to dogs too. eom KurtNYC Jan 2012 #10
Oliver is a hypocrite. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #11
Did you read the Daily Mail article? snagglepuss Jan 2012 #14
Yes. And it's the DM, not exactly a bastion of fact and reason. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #17
I read both Daily Mail articles. And Ikonoclast is correct. Oliver should pay more attention to yellowcanine Jan 2012 #19
Not sure what meat is worse, Mcdonalds or Taco Bell. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #13
Aw... That was the tastiest part! :( leeroysphitz Jan 2012 #20

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
1. What about Taco Bell and the many other fast food restaurants doing the same?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jan 2012

It is obscene that they are allowed to do so. But AG is the oldest, largest, and among the most powerful lobbies in Congress--and USDA was, after all, originally established to promote the AG industry, not to protect public health or consumer interests. Some habits are hard to break, it seems.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
18. "converting fatty beef offcuts"
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jan 2012

Any strong base will do when you know your food chemistry! If you use enough ammonia, you can give it that unmistakable hakarl aroma. Quick, chase it down with a before you

chaska

(6,794 posts)
4. Don't have time to read now, but GREAT news. I stopped eating....
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jan 2012

all hamburger products a couple of years ago after hearing about pink slime.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
5. I too gave up eating burgers years ago but I always assumed that
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jan 2012

pure beef patty meant there were no additives.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
9. That's an interesting clip. Is Kenndey saying that pink slime is also in regular ground
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:26 AM
Jan 2012

beef bought in a supermarket?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
17. Yes. And it's the DM, not exactly a bastion of fact and reason.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jan 2012

Still doesn't change the fact that Oliver's own eating establishments were violating health and food safety codes.

Guess he was too busy desperately trying to be famous to notice, or care.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
19. I read both Daily Mail articles. And Ikonoclast is correct. Oliver should pay more attention to
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

what his own restaurants are doing. Citing how many safety inspections they have passed is not persuasive when there are documented cases of undercooked meat, out of date meat, improper storage of ingredients, and dirty equipment being used. Also not having proven cases of food poisoning is a pretty low bar - food poisoning, particularly in restaurants, is very difficult to prove because the food which caused the poisoning has likely been completely consumed or it was thrown out as waste at the end of the shift. And most restaurant cases go unreported because the patrons don't always associate their symptoms with food poisoning or with the restaurant where they were in fact poisoned. Or they just don't want to bother because they recovered and they can't prove the connection anyway. It is only when someone gets hospitalized that an investigation is usually done and even when someone dies it is not always possible to track down the source.

MacDonald's using ammonium hydroxide in hamburgers is not a good thing either but the documented conditions in some of Oliver's restaurants have probably caused more illness.

I also find it a bit amusing that a Brit would go after McDonald's for its hamburgers and keep quiet about Fish and Chips, which have 500-700 or more calories per serving with about half of that from fat and there can be a tremendous variation in quality depending on how much corner cutting is done on timely changing of the frying oil.

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