Ed Schulz says the Reid capitulation is about guns.

[grasswire]

He says Reid bargained with McConnell from a position of weakness due to Reid's need to collect GOP support for gun control laws.

If I understand this, it means that DiFi and Boxer etc. traded their votes on filibuster for some GOP support for DiFi's weapons bill.

Dirty sausage making.

[BainsBane]

1. I don't believe it

and how would Schultz know?

[grasswire]

2. how else do we explain Boxer voting against the talking filibuster? nt

[grasswire]

3. and how else do we explain Reid's total reversal of position on filibuster?

people are asking who got to Reid, who threatened him or paid him off.

[BainsBane]

4. reports were she was against it earlier this month

and I don't know why. A DUer from Cali called her office and they assured the voter she was on board.

Seems to me folding on the filibuster makes it less likely gun control will pass.

[grasswire]

6. I can see that likelihood, too.

Could be a trick. Not the first time Harry has been suckered.

[MurrayDelph]

8. Feinstein is not a public servant

When I lived in California, I wrote many letters asking her to explain actions she had taken, or asking her to take particular actions that would have benefitted the country, and when I did get an answer it could be summed up as

"Back off, sonny. I'm a Senator. I know more than you do."

[truebluegreen]

10. DiFi has always been a DINO

Imagine Harvey Milk in that seat....

[EastKYLiberal]

5. If true, it'd be one hell of a bargain. nt

[libtodeath]

20. Don`t bet on it

if a bargain of such was made it was to let a worthless bill pass,Reid is not anti gun.

[elleng]

7. Jeeze I hate this shit.

[graham4anything]

9. LBJ said-Any jackass can kick down a barn but it takes a good carpenter to build one

and LBJ would have been praising the great one-upmanship Harry Reid did yesterday.

too bad all can't see it, but, well, they will down the road.

President Obama roped the dopes again.It's that 9 step ahead program that gets those that only see in front of their nose every single time.

and btw, I don't care what Ed says either way, since the night of the first debate. He and Rachel lost me forever with their astute acute blindness that night bloviating away. That night, couldn't tell if they were Rush and Sean or Ed and Rachel. Being that they sure sounded like Rush and Sean even if they didn't look like them.

[KharmaTrain]

11. So...

...if they made a deal with the rushpublicans to waive the talking filibuster for votes on some type of gun control measures? Considering how little people are expecting out of the legislature, I'd say that's not a bad deal...or one that will/can save lives. If this means getting some votes on gun control in the upcoming session, is that a bad thing? As it stood, surely some yokel rushpublican would put a hold on any gun control legislation and it'd fade into the darkness. Here there may actually be some light. I'm disappointed that the talking filibuster fell short and don't trust Turtleman...but the real log jam remains the House that is unlikely to pass any Democratic proposed or sponsored legislation.

[libtodeath]

21. What if it a wink to let a terrible an inneffective bill through?

[awoke_in_2003]

12. It isn't about guns...

It about Harry's total lack of spine. Maybe he should get rid of his magic underwear.

[rucky]

13. Now we're sure to accomplish between 1 and Zero things this session.

[MadHound]

14. Well, if Reid and Obama can't muster the support within their own party for gun control,

Then they've simply proven, once again, how ineffective they are in their respective leadership roles.

[jeff47]

15. Why would they need Republican votes?

This theory falls apart when you note Reid already has a majority, and could pass such laws if there was no filibuster, or if it was weaker.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

19. Because not every senator from the party is on board

[jeff47]

30. He's got 5 free votes - he only needs 50 + VP.

And if a Democrat isn't going to vote for a gun control bill, what makes you think a Republican would?

[bullwinkle428]

17. I think you're misinterpreting what Ed was trying to say. It sounded to me like

Ed thought that Reid knew that most of the gun-control measures being discussed could not possibly pass due to some of the Democratic senators from more "rural"-type states refusing to back them. This would ultimately result in a vote total of less than 50 once people like Baucus, Manchin, etc. voted "no". Ed said it was essentially about giving Blue Dogs political cover.

[kenny blankenship]

18. McConnell asked Reid to change a dollar

and obliging ol' Harry gave him five quarters, a buffalo nickel, and a 1965 40% silver JFK 50 cent piece.
Fucking dumbass.

[duffyduff]

22. I am such a cynic, I don't believe a word they say anymore.

Like others have said, this is kabuki theater. Congress has no intention of rocking the boat of their rich supporters by doing what is right for everybody else.

The "filibuster fight" is all show, no substance.

[A Simple Game]

25. Yup, what you said. n/t

[derby378]

23. That doesn't seem likely...

...since there are still a few Democratic Senators who will vote against Feinstein's bill. Six of one and half a dozen of the other?

[regjoe]

24. Doesn't make sense at all

If the Republicans fold on the 2nd Amendment, they are done.

[Purveyor]

26. Doesn't matter on damn wit what the Senate wants to do on gun control as NOTHING will get

through the House.

[grahamhgreen]

27. NO, it's about anything the Dems manage to squeak through the house.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

28. DiFi's bill will die in the House, so why would Reid make this deal?

I'm guessing that Reid didn't want to change the filibuster, and is trying to divert blame.

[hack89]

29. It will not see a vote in the House until the Senate votes,

the republicans are not going to go on record on gun control unless they absolutely have to. They will sit back and see what Senate democrats can pass first. Since an AWB is opposed by a dozen or so Dems from pro-gun conservative states, Boehner is betting the AWB will die in the Senate.