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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:24 AM Jan 2013

New wingnut scurrilous claim: Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens”

2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.

Garrow was nominated three years ago for the prestigious Nobel Peace Prize and is the founder of The Pink Pagoda Girls, an organization dedicated to rescuing baby girls from “gendercide” in China. Garrow has been personally involved in “helping rescue more than 36,000 Chinese baby girls from death.” He is a public figure, not an anonymous voice on the Internet, which makes his claim all the more disturbing.

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”

Garrow’s claim is even more explosive given that the country is in the throes of a national debate about gun control, with gun rights advocates keen to insist that the founders put the second amendment in the Constitution primarily as a defense against government tyranny.

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http://1800guntrader.com/article/obama-asks-military-leaders-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens/

http://www.examiner.com/article/shock-claim-obama-only-wants-military-leaders-who-will-fire-on-u-s-citizens

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New wingnut scurrilous claim: Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens” (Original Post) cali Jan 2013 OP
lol EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #1
Info on th scumbag Garrow: cali Jan 2013 #2
Mr. Garrow, Oily Taintz. Oily Taintz, Mr Garrow.... oh08dem Jan 2013 #11
Riight! And for his next magical claim? hobbit709 Jan 2013 #3
Pssst! Anyone can be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize... JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #4
Snopes says it's probably false Lasher Jan 2013 #5
Our drone kills included American citizens. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #6
Just ask Pat Tillman.... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #9
Yeah, there was that. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #12
(but a lot of people around here kinda thought it was okay) Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #13
Reading some of the responses in the examiner article... oh08dem Jan 2013 #7
It's all part of the "cold, dead hands" attitude. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #8
Kickin' it. In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #10
If that question was asked at any time michreject Jan 2013 #14
Been hearing this all week from my freeper cubby-mates. UGH!!! woodsprite Jan 2013 #15
From a historical perspective, how many times have US troops/National Guardsmen... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #16
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. Info on th scumbag Garrow:
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:34 AM
Jan 2013

Proven Liar Says Obama Firing Military Leaders Who Won’t Kill U.S. Citizens? Take a Closer Look
Posted on January 22, 2013 by willyloman

by Scott Creighton

Word is out that President Obama is firing military leaders who refuse to give the order to shoot U.S. citizens. Places like InfoWars (get it?), IntelHub, and Before It’s News are already out on top of this one.

It’s called a campaign of tension. The point it too create unrest and FEAR. Terrorism by another name. One aspect is the ground attack like the American Gladio campaign. The complimentary assault is called the Information Wars, propaganda designed to keep us fearful and turning against one another.

Come on folks, it’s all based on the say-so of “Dr.” Jim Garrow, a guy who is

an admitted child trafficker
proven liar on multiple fronts
professional shyster running a couple unregistered “not-for-profit” rackets

… and his information comes from an “undisclosed’ former U.S. military leader/ “hero” (Patreaus? Ollie North? John McCain?)

It’s bullshit folks. Don’t get sucked into it.

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http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/proven-liar-says-obama-firing-military-leaders-who-wont-kill-u-s-citizens-take-a-closer-look/

oh08dem

(339 posts)
11. Mr. Garrow, Oily Taintz. Oily Taintz, Mr Garrow....
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:57 AM
Jan 2013

I now pronounce you insane. You may now exchange box top degrees.

 

JoeBlowToo

(253 posts)
4. Pssst! Anyone can be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize...
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:36 AM
Jan 2013

that doesn't mean that this idiot had a snowball's chance in Hell of actually winning it.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
6. Our drone kills included American citizens.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:50 AM
Jan 2013

This story is bullshit, but our current policy permits assassination of us citizens.

oh08dem

(339 posts)
7. Reading some of the responses in the examiner article...
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:51 AM
Jan 2013

Why do they always cite some bullshit anecdotal evidence? "My wife's friend who has a son, that has a friend, that once met a guy in a movie theater line said Obama's gonna shoot anyone who has a gun"....



woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
15. Been hearing this all week from my freeper cubby-mates. UGH!!!
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jan 2013

I didn't research it much - other than to find the only people talking about it on the net at the time were freeper-ish sites. I figured if they're spouting it, then it's probably out right fabricated or spun out of context.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
16. From a historical perspective, how many times have US troops/National Guardsmen...
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jan 2013

...fired on US citizens in the past? The answer is a lot more times than anyone realizes. So what the heck is Garrow trying to do besides stirring up crap?

Another quick point...the oath taken when joining the US military is to defend the US from all enemies, foreign or domestic. What "litmus test" is Garrow talking about?

I call bs on Garrow and his so-called story.

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