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malaise

(268,952 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:23 PM Jan 2013

This Arizona Sheriff on Al Sharpton is stupid beyond

belief. He cannot present one argument showing that Obama's Executive Orders re gun control is unconstitutional - just opinionated bullshit.

Al Sharpton just stole his lunch - not one example - what a fool.

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This Arizona Sheriff on Al Sharpton is stupid beyond (Original Post) malaise Jan 2013 OP
That guy is an arrogant dumb fuck. BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #1
Not stupid, just obstinately clinging to the right wing memes... JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #2
Was it Joe Arpaio? Yeah he's an arrogant blow hard. Initech Jan 2013 #3
Nope...another, younger skinhead type. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #6
Is there any Arizona sheriff who's not a complete ass?? Initech Jan 2013 #11
I don't think so... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #13
Yes...Pima County (Tucson) Sheriff Clarence Dupnik KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #18
No, not Arpaio. It was Pinal Country Sheriff Paul Babeu. n/t BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #8
Ah. He's another weapons-grade asshole. n/t backscatter712 Jan 2013 #9
A homophobic GAY sheriff. Hard Assets Jan 2013 #14
Huh? Where? When? virgogal Jan 2013 #4
He's in competition with Arpaio n/t Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #5
Al handled him pretty good though. What an ass that guy was. nc4bo Jan 2013 #7
Al really tore him a new one malaise Jan 2013 #10
Same guy who threatened his Mexican boyfriend to keep him quiet. Archae Jan 2013 #12
Didn't remember that malaise Jan 2013 #15
Yes he did. Archae Jan 2013 #16
He's not very bright malaise Jan 2013 #17
For the record, Obama did not specifically issue any EO's regarding firearms or gun control SayWut Jan 2013 #19
 

JoeBlowToo

(253 posts)
2. Not stupid, just obstinately clinging to the right wing memes...
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jan 2013

which become articles of faith and no facts will change their minds.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
7. Al handled him pretty good though. What an ass that guy was.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:30 PM
Jan 2013

Get on a national tv show to look like an pure fool. He needs to go sit down somewhere.

Al stole his lunch, dinner and dessert.

malaise

(268,952 posts)
10. Al really tore him a new one
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jan 2013

Hilarious - I love how confidently these buffoons spew this shite.

 

SayWut

(153 posts)
19. For the record, Obama did not specifically issue any EO's regarding firearms or gun control
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

In his speech to the nation, he spoke of 23 "executive actions"...

These are a few of the 23 executive actions that I’m announcing today. But as important as these steps are, they are in no way a substitute for action from members of Congress. To make a real and lasting difference, Congress, too, must act -- and Congress must act soon. And I’m calling on Congress to pass some very specific proposals right away.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/remarks-president-and-vice-president-gun-violence


He did however, issue 3 Presidential Memoranda on the issue...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-engaging-public-health-research-causes-and-pre-0

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-improving-availability-relevant-executive-branch

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-tracing-firearms-connection-criminal-investigati

The difference between the two (executive order, presidential memoranda), is a subtle one, issued for the purpose of being less controversial and easier to swallow.

Another executive tool which has raised many questions is the presidential memoranda. Although they possess a different title than executive orders, it appears as though these instruments are very much alike. Both are undefined, written instruments by which the president directs, and governs actions by, Government officials and agencies. They differ in that executive orders must be published in the Federal Register whereas presidential memoranda are similarly published only if the President determines that they have a "general applicability and legal effect." .... In at least one instance, a federal district court seemed to use the two terms interchangeably.


Basically, for all intents and purposes, a memorandum is an executive order. However, since executive orders are a particularly controversial and politically charged lever of presidential power (the mere mention of them has inspired talk of impeachment among some of Congress's more firebrand Republicans), it's important to note that they (or something exactly like them) comprised only three of the items on Obama's list of 23 "executive actions."


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/obama-23-executive-orders-actions-gun-control.html

So, are these 3 "Presidential Memoranda" unconstitional?
IMHO, no (disclaimer, I'm neither a Constitutional scholar or lawyer, and for that matter neither am I a Western sheriff or talk show Reverend).

They're simply instructions/orders to the relevant agencies of the Executive branch to carry out new guidelines.

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