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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis Arizona Sheriff on Al Sharpton is stupid beyond
belief. He cannot present one argument showing that Obama's Executive Orders re gun control is unconstitutional - just opinionated bullshit.
Al Sharpton just stole his lunch - not one example - what a fool.
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This Arizona Sheriff on Al Sharpton is stupid beyond (Original Post)
malaise
Jan 2013
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BumRushDaShow
(128,895 posts)1. That guy is an arrogant dumb fuck.
JoeBlowToo
(253 posts)2. Not stupid, just obstinately clinging to the right wing memes...
which become articles of faith and no facts will change their minds.
Initech
(100,065 posts)3. Was it Joe Arpaio? Yeah he's an arrogant blow hard.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)6. Nope...another, younger skinhead type.
Initech
(100,065 posts)11. Is there any Arizona sheriff who's not a complete ass??
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)13. I don't think so...
I am soooooo happy I don't live there.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)18. Yes...Pima County (Tucson) Sheriff Clarence Dupnik
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/sheriff-clarence-dupnik-a_n_806303.html
This man has stood up to the goons and the NRA...
This man has stood up to the goons and the NRA...
BumRushDaShow
(128,895 posts)8. No, not Arpaio. It was Pinal Country Sheriff Paul Babeu. n/t
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)9. Ah. He's another weapons-grade asshole. n/t
Hard Assets
(274 posts)14. A homophobic GAY sheriff.
He was outed a few years ago.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)4. Huh? Where? When?
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)5. He's in competition with Arpaio n/t
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)7. Al handled him pretty good though. What an ass that guy was.
Get on a national tv show to look like an pure fool. He needs to go sit down somewhere.
Al stole his lunch, dinner and dessert.
malaise
(268,952 posts)10. Al really tore him a new one
Hilarious - I love how confidently these buffoons spew this shite.
Archae
(46,323 posts)12. Same guy who threatened his Mexican boyfriend to keep him quiet.
malaise
(268,952 posts)15. Didn't remember that
He threatened him with deportation right????
Archae
(46,323 posts)16. Yes he did.
And this isn't the only person Babeau has pulled stuff on.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/25/paul-babeu-scandal_n_1301185.html
malaise
(268,952 posts)17. He's not very bright
Sharpton tore him to shreds
SayWut
(153 posts)19. For the record, Obama did not specifically issue any EO's regarding firearms or gun control
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders
In his speech to the nation, he spoke of 23 "executive actions"...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/remarks-president-and-vice-president-gun-violence
He did however, issue 3 Presidential Memoranda on the issue...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-engaging-public-health-research-causes-and-pre-0
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-improving-availability-relevant-executive-branch
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-tracing-firearms-connection-criminal-investigati
The difference between the two (executive order, presidential memoranda), is a subtle one, issued for the purpose of being less controversial and easier to swallow.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/obama-23-executive-orders-actions-gun-control.html
So, are these 3 "Presidential Memoranda" unconstitional?
IMHO, no (disclaimer, I'm neither a Constitutional scholar or lawyer, and for that matter neither am I a Western sheriff or talk show Reverend).
They're simply instructions/orders to the relevant agencies of the Executive branch to carry out new guidelines.
In his speech to the nation, he spoke of 23 "executive actions"...
These are a few of the 23 executive actions that Im announcing today. But as important as these steps are, they are in no way a substitute for action from members of Congress. To make a real and lasting difference, Congress, too, must act -- and Congress must act soon. And Im calling on Congress to pass some very specific proposals right away.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/remarks-president-and-vice-president-gun-violence
He did however, issue 3 Presidential Memoranda on the issue...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-engaging-public-health-research-causes-and-pre-0
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-improving-availability-relevant-executive-branch
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-tracing-firearms-connection-criminal-investigati
The difference between the two (executive order, presidential memoranda), is a subtle one, issued for the purpose of being less controversial and easier to swallow.
Another executive tool which has raised many questions is the presidential memoranda. Although they possess a different title than executive orders, it appears as though these instruments are very much alike. Both are undefined, written instruments by which the president directs, and governs actions by, Government officials and agencies. They differ in that executive orders must be published in the Federal Register whereas presidential memoranda are similarly published only if the President determines that they have a "general applicability and legal effect." .... In at least one instance, a federal district court seemed to use the two terms interchangeably.
Basically, for all intents and purposes, a memorandum is an executive order. However, since executive orders are a particularly controversial and politically charged lever of presidential power (the mere mention of them has inspired talk of impeachment among some of Congress's more firebrand Republicans), it's important to note that they (or something exactly like them) comprised only three of the items on Obama's list of 23 "executive actions."
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/obama-23-executive-orders-actions-gun-control.html
So, are these 3 "Presidential Memoranda" unconstitional?
IMHO, no (disclaimer, I'm neither a Constitutional scholar or lawyer, and for that matter neither am I a Western sheriff or talk show Reverend).
They're simply instructions/orders to the relevant agencies of the Executive branch to carry out new guidelines.