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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:01 AM Jan 2013

The Most Ridiculous Law of 2013 (So Far): It Is Now a Crime to Unlock Your Smartphone

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013-so-far-it-is-now-a-crime-to-unlock-your-smartphone/272552/



This is now the law of the land:

ADVISORY

BY DECREE OF THE LIBRARIAN OF CONGRESS

IT SHALL HENCEFORCE BE ORDERED THAT AMERICANS SHALL NOT UNLOCK THEIR OWN SMARTPHONES.

PENALTY: In some situations, first time offenders may be fined up to $500,000, imprisoned for five years, or both. For repeat offenders, the maximum penalty increases to a fine of $1,000,000, imprisonment for up to ten years, or both.*

That's right, starting this weekend it is illegal to unlock new phones to make them available on other carriers.

I have deep sympathy for any individual who happens to get jail time for this offense. I am sure that other offenders would not take kindly to smartphone un-lockers.

But seriously: It's embarrassing and unacceptable that we are at the mercy of prosecutorial and judicial discretion** to avoid the implementation of draconian laws that could implicate average Americans in a crime subject to up to a $500,000 fine and up to five years in prison.
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The Most Ridiculous Law of 2013 (So Far): It Is Now a Crime to Unlock Your Smartphone (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2013 OP
Does anyone remember the good ole' days when you didn't even own your own phone? sadbear Jan 2013 #1
Depends on who takes charge over the next few years. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #26
Implications are far-reaching. intheflow Jan 2013 #2
Get an unlocked smart phone on a Canadian Carrier Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #3
Can you please explain to this dummy, Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #31
An unlocked phone can be used on any carrier. Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #34
Thanks...I switched to Sprint a few months back... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #35
You can negotiate lower rate if you don’t use the time or data Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #36
Hey thanks! Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #40
until that is made illegal leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #51
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022277303 Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #52
The fine is too high but I don't have a problem with this. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #4
I have a huge problem with this hootinholler Jan 2013 #8
They are making money on the service proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #11
Obviously you don't understand how they structure their costs... rexcat Jan 2013 #12
You've "nailed it". Plucketeer Jan 2013 #15
Actually has nothing to do with rooting your phone Spike89 Jan 2013 #19
The problem is, this includes that phones that do not have good deals on them Horse with no Name Jan 2013 #10
While I understand your stance here.... Plucketeer Jan 2013 #16
I never had an IPhone Horse with no Name Jan 2013 #18
What carrier was that? midnight Jan 2013 #13
AT&T proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #25
Thank you... midnight Jan 2013 #46
That is your perogative MattBaggins Jan 2013 #37
Dumb law. You own the phone. The carrier does not. randome Jan 2013 #5
It's been done before. sadbear Jan 2013 #6
Maybe the difference today, though, is that a phone is not just a phone. It's a mini-computer. randome Jan 2013 #7
what is the word for 10x ridiculous? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #9
Not sure how to unlock or even know what that means to unlock? midnight Jan 2013 #14
the punishment strikes me as excessive dsc Jan 2013 #17
They do have the right to hold you to the contract. If you want out you pay an early termination Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #22
But once the contract period is done, you own the phone JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #38
not all contracts are legal MattBaggins Jan 2013 #39
Good god. woo me with science Jan 2013 #20
This must be a joke! Rainforestgoddess Jan 2013 #21
Is it still a crime to tear the tags off of pillows? bluestateguy Jan 2013 #23
This is seriously fucking outrageous. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #24
and many if not most people will go ahead and do it anyway quinnox Jan 2013 #27
the correct term is "root" the phone. unlock sounds unsavory. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #28
No it is not the proper term MattBaggins Jan 2013 #41
you're right, but they probably don't know or care. both control issues... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #44
If done correctly, rooting a phone is almost stupid proof LTR Jan 2013 #48
yep, i did it, so... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #49
This is only on those subsidized (cheap bundled in a contract) locked phones, though. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #29
That may not be true MattBaggins Jan 2013 #43
I should have been more clear. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #45
I don't blame you at all MattBaggins Jan 2013 #47
Seems really weird to me that the government would get involved in this. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #30
This was why the DMCA raised so many hackles in tech circles Recursion Jan 2013 #33
You can still buy an unlocked phone, you just can't get the subsidy for it from the carrier Recursion Jan 2013 #32
The poor multi Billion $$$ telecomms need protection. lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #42
Original Article stevenleser Jan 2013 #50

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
1. Does anyone remember the good ole' days when you didn't even own your own phone?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jan 2013

Ma Bell owned all the phones. She just let you use them.

This law seems similar to that setup.

I doubt it will last.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
26. Depends on who takes charge over the next few years.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:23 PM
Jan 2013

If we can get some more progressive Democrats in office we may have a decent chance of overturning this crap......Third Way Democrats? Maybe not so much. And if we see another surge of "free market" Teabagging Rethugs you can forget it.......

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
2. Implications are far-reaching.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jan 2013

We won't own anything any more. Or, more to the point, this is planned obsolescence taken to its most extreme limits.

Here's example of how this could affect other areas of property ownership:

You buy a new Ford. The headlight goes out. The car's computer registers this and the software won't allow anything but another headlight from the Ford factory (or one that's contracted by Ford to be used with their computer software). So you'll be a slave to that brand, unable to buy generic replacement parts, so they can charge you top dollar.

I hope to hell this gets challenged and taken to court. It's pure BS, a decision made by a single person who no doubt has plenty of money to buy a new smart phone every week if he has to.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
3. Get an unlocked smart phone on a Canadian Carrier
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jan 2013

Many carriers have plans that cover calls, text and data in the US too.

Problem solved.

My contract expires in a few months and I will drive to Canada and get a new phone and plan there.

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
34. An unlocked phone can be used on any carrier.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jan 2013

Verizon phones are locked and only work on Verizon

In Europe if you have a phone you just buy a providers sim card and you are on their network, just like T Mobile and ATT did here until now.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
35. Thanks...I switched to Sprint a few months back...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jan 2013

they offered a better plan for me. I had been with Verizon for about 8 years, but they wanted too much for their data plan (I don't use a ton of data) and I had to buy too many minutes to get unlimited calls to my kids. I spend very little time on the phone...got rid of my land line when I moved 13 months ago. Some months I had "used" 13 out of 900 minutes. I think I must be even more antisocial than Howard Hughes....

 

Lesmoderesstupides

(156 posts)
36. You can negotiate lower rate if you don’t use the time or data
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

I am the same way and knocked 30% off my bill when I told them I don’t use or come any were near my monthly allotment in an entire year. When they checed my use they were schocked at how litte I use my phone.

I threated to leave to another carrier and the manager gave me a discount just to stay.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
40. Hey thanks!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jan 2013

I'll remember that for when I'm near the end of my Sprint contract. What I do like about Sprint is the unlimited mobile to mobile....

The only time I call a land line, it's an 800 number...even then I never get near my total which is now 450 min. a month.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. The fine is too high but I don't have a problem with this.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jan 2013

Carriers are practically giving these phones away. I got an iPhone for 99 cents at Christmas.

Since it's obvious they aren't making any money by selling phones it's not surprising they want to restrict how you use them.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
8. I have a huge problem with this
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jan 2013

Oh, BTW, carriers are not giving phones away, the are making a healthy margin on the contract life they can simply afford to appear to give it to you.

As an android developer it is essential to be able to root a phone to perform troubleshooting.

As a citizen, if I pay for a piece of hardware that contains an open source OS, I have the right to do as I wish with it.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
11. They are making money on the service
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jan 2013

But when they sell phones for 99 cents, you can't convince me they are profiting.

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
12. Obviously you don't understand how they structure their costs...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jan 2013

If you purchase the phone outright you are not obliged to sign a two year contract with them. The cost of the phone is structured into the service plan. Businesses do not give anything free to anyone. There is always a cost to the consumer.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
15. You've "nailed it".
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jan 2013

Even that bowl of mints next to the cash register at a restaurant - you pay for them in your meal tab. They won't show up on your bill, but you've paid for them nonetheless. You can certainly opt not to take one, but you're still paying for them!

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
19. Actually has nothing to do with rooting your phone
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

Rooting is a different issue and not covered by this law. It is an odd law. Basically, you can buy a new phone at the full price and unlock it (many come from the factory unlocked). The only time the unlocking issue seems to be in effect is when you buy a "subsidized" phone and agree to a term contract. Why you'd want to sign up for a two-year plan with a company, then immediately switch your service to a competitor is beyond me--you'd still have to honor the contract or at least pay a termination fee.

I think it is a stupid law, but it doesn't have anything to do with rooting your phone or device.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
10. The problem is, this includes that phones that do not have good deals on them
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jan 2013

For example. I prefer a Blackberry. The free Blackberry was a cheap Curve. I took it and walked out the door and hated every second that phone was in my hand. So, I went back and upgraded and paid full price which was almost $700 for the phone that I wanted. That should be MY phone to do with what I want. That phone is also one of the ones that you can flash to alternate plans.
This has a lot to do, in my opinion, with the TMobile/Metro merger. Part of what they planned on offering to go after the Big 3 was the ability to bring your phone from another carrier...but I suppose that TMobile hasn't done enough for the government like ATT and Verizon.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. While I understand your stance here....
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jan 2013

It was the Blackberry that cost you the $700 bucks. The iphone was "free". But you took back the Blackberry - which was then technically unmarketable once you brought it back (they certainly couldn't have just cleaned it up and handed it to another customer) - and they made you pay for that excess by charging you for the iphone.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
18. I never had an IPhone
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

I got a Blackberry Curve which I took back. And yes, they absolutely do clean them up and give them to other customers.

I paid outright full price for the upgraded Blackberry. No credits, nothing.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
37. That is your perogative
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jan 2013

but I will tell them to fuck off and apply the rule of first sale that has centuries of precedence. When I purchase something it is mine to use as I see fit. If I buy a blender and want to turn it into a toaster I will do so, corporo-facists be damned.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Maybe the difference today, though, is that a phone is not just a phone. It's a mini-computer.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:38 PM
Jan 2013

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
9. what is the word for 10x ridiculous?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:43 PM
Jan 2013

unlocked you get 4x the battery life and no stupid bloatware.

is that all new phones or new CONTRACTS?

dsc

(52,155 posts)
17. the punishment strikes me as excessive
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jan 2013

but when you get a phone at a reduced cost from a carrier that carrier has a right to hold you to its contract.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
22. They do have the right to hold you to the contract. If you want out you pay an early termination
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jan 2013

to defray the cost of the handset.

I for one prefer to be a defender of consumer rights over that of AT&T's so I may be biased in my analysis.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
38. But once the contract period is done, you own the phone
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

and you should be able to unlock it, jailbreak it, root it, or throw it in the air and blast it with a skeet gun.

All with no "punishment".

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
39. not all contracts are legal
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

First Sale supercedes DMCA.

And this is a problem of the grey area of DMCA. It was never meant to cover this bullshit.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
23. Is it still a crime to tear the tags off of pillows?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jan 2013

Too many politicians who have been in office for too long making too many laws to keep themselves busy.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
24. This is seriously fucking outrageous.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jan 2013

Ten years in prison.....for this? Goddamn. This country really is being taken over by fascists. When are people finally gonna wake the fuck up and realize that we're still in serious trouble?

On a related note, I find it extremely ironic that this article came from a "libertarian" site. Normally these people would be head-over-heels for this stuff......

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
27. and many if not most people will go ahead and do it anyway
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jan 2013

I'd put this crime in the same category as the stern FBI warning you see on all DVD movies about copying or other similar laws that are rarely, if ever, enforced or prosecuted.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
28. the correct term is "root" the phone. unlock sounds unsavory.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jan 2013

and its the only way to get rid of frigging FB, on my phone, anyway.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
41. No it is not the proper term
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jan 2013

rooting and unlocking are not the same although many phones need to be rooted to unlock them.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
44. you're right, but they probably don't know or care. both control issues...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jan 2013
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smartphones/pros-and-cons-of-jailbreaking-or-rooting-your-smartphone/1460

jailbreaking?

Is it legal?

Up until July 26, 2010, jailbreaking or rooting your phone was considered illegal under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). That law, enacted in 1998, criminalized the circumvention of access controls technologies. However, the law also gives the Librarian of Congress the power to designate exceptions. This year’s ruling made an exception for software that enables a wireless phone to execute software applications (i.e., jailbreaking or rooting).

Although as far as I can tell, nobody was prosecuted for jailbreaking their phones prior to the legalization, some say Apple did threaten to do so. Note that the ruling only affects criminal prosecution; the ruling doesn’t address breach of contract. Therefore, if you signed a contract in which you agree not to jailbreak the phone, it doesn’t keep the phone vendors from issuing patches to “undo” your jailbreak or even brick your jailbroken phone.
Why the handset makers and carriers hate it

Don’t call up your cellular carrier and ask for help jailbreaking or rooting your phone — the carriers and the phone makers hate the entire idea. That’s because it takes control away from them and gives it to the phone’s owner.

Phone manufacturers don’t want you to do it because of the small number of cases in which it can make the phone unstable or open it up to security breaches. It then makes them look bad because it’s their phone that’s crashing or introducing malware to your network.

Carriers hate it even more because it can cost them money. They even go so far as to “cripple” features that the phone makers build in, so they can charge you an extra fee for the same service. One example is Wi-Fi hotspot capability, for which carriers charge up to $30 per month when you can do the same thing on a rooted phone with no extra fees using a free or low, one-time-cost app.

LTR

(13,227 posts)
48. If done correctly, rooting a phone is almost stupid proof
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:29 AM
Jan 2013

I've rooted several and installed custom Cyanogenmod-based ROMs. The task isn't all that complicated if you at least have an idea of how it all works, and tew importance of a good recovery. Carriers don't like it much because it allows users to uninstall all the crapware that comes with it. And yes, it does open the doors to activities such as Wi-Fi tethering without paying the extra fee. The law says that if we own the phone, we can do whatever the hell we want to it. The only thing they can do is deny warranty service, which seems fair.

I am currently with a no-contract carrier, as I got sick of all the contract B.S. When one purchases a phone outright from a no-contract carrier, they can do whatever the hell they want with it, though most of those phones are locked into a particular carrier.

The law seems like it was designed by AT&T to keep people from taking their old iPhone 3s (and now 4s) to Wal-Mart or T-Mobile to put on their services (which they can do). Under a contact, the carrier is subsidizing your phone (almost like car financing). But when that contract end, the phone is paid off and no obligation remains, customers should have the right to do whatever the want with them, including unlocking and bringing to a rival
compatible carrier.

farminator3000

(2,117 posts)
49. yep, i did it, so...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jan 2013

ok, i'm not stupid, but i don't know a thing about programming or android.

as long as you do enough googling and get the right ROM for your model of phone, it rules.

mine lasts 2 days instead of 6 hours, no constant FB updates (couldn't stop on normal phone), and is seems faster.

ad blocking and backup are sure nice.

Here's rooting in a nutshell: Your Android smartphone is based on Linux. A big, bad, scary computer operating system known only by people with neck beards. (Only, not really. But mostly.) Anyhoo, Android apps need permission to access certain parts of Linux, and not all apps have this special "root" access. That includes a few basic things, like the camera flash, and the ability to take screen shots. There are a bunch of other apps that need root access for other reasons, too, but the basic premise is the same.

So should you root your phone? First thing to do is read this editorial, and decide if you want to go further. Then if you're the type who loves to mess with things, go for it. If you want to squeeze a little more functionality out of your phone, go for it. Need more convincing? Check out "Rooting Q&A -- Is it for me?"
http://www.androidcentral.com/root

OK, so why would I want to root my phone?

Good question! Maybe you don’t. Everything in a Linux system is a file, or is treated as a file. Since Android runs on top of Linux, it acts the same way. Most of the files you will need to access or change are available to you without having elevated permissions. "Most" being the key term here. When you want to do things that affect or change the core software of your device -- like updating the version of Android on your phone, or adding a nice piece of software from another device -- you'll have to do it as root. Dream and Magic users have been running Eclair on their phones for a good while now, and it’s because they have rooted their device. Rooting also gives you access to some handy software that you couldn’t use otherwise. Things like a complete system backup or ad blocking software require you to root your device. Don’t root your phone just for the sake of rooting your phone, but if you come across something you feel you could use or would like to have, then consider it. You'll find that the open source community is usually pretty helpful and encouraging new people to do new things is common. And when you get to the point where you can lend a hand to the new folks, pay it forward.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
29. This is only on those subsidized (cheap bundled in a contract) locked phones, though.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jan 2013

Usually, after a certain period of time when your commitment was met they'd give you a code to unlock those and you could switch to another carrier with your old phone. Not sure if they will anymore since this law basically doesn't cover that, and most people don't really read their contract to see if that's covered. If not it means that if you leave the carrier, even after your contract is up, you have to get another phone to use a different carrier.

What I'm not understanding, because from what I can tell it's not covered, is what happens if you buyout your contract? Can you then legally unlock the phone since you've met their requirements to change providers? Or are you just SOL for going for a cheap bundled phone in the first place?

This is going to make people look at phone "upgrades" from their carriers in a whole new light. You'd better make sure you're getting a contract that actually will meet your evolving needs for the next two years, because if you don't it may cost you a significant amount more to switch to a new carrier.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
43. That may not be true
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jan 2013

This problem comes from the DMCA and covers all phones. This is a law that is above and beyond the contracts and it may now be illegal for all new phones.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
45. I should have been more clear.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jan 2013

If you buy an unlocked phone, which is more expensive and not one they bundle in the contract packages, you're fine. That's what I meant, but I left that vital part out of the post. What can I say, it's Monday.



MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
47. I don't blame you at all
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jan 2013

Even the experts aren't sure what this all means since the DMCA legislation was so poorly written.

This irks me to no end since I believe they will try to apply it to tablets and other devices to include making rooting illegal. Will they try to say that I can't put a custom rom on my Nook? They can kiss my ass if they think I won't do exactly as I please with my stuff.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
30. Seems really weird to me that the government would get involved in this.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jan 2013

If I bring food to a restaurant, the restaurant may ask me to leave, but I wouldn't get a fine and jail time.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. This was why the DMCA raised so many hackles in tech circles
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jan 2013

Because it was a pretty unprecedented expansion of power.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
32. You can still buy an unlocked phone, you just can't get the subsidy for it from the carrier
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jan 2013

Actually it rarely ended up saving you money, since the termination fees were generally so high.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
42. The poor multi Billion $$$ telecomms need protection.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jan 2013



After all, what's the point of having all those lawyers and lobbyists on the payroll
and all those Congress critters in their pocket if they can't get things their way?


 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
50. Original Article
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:33 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.livescience.com/26541-unlocking-cellphones-becomes-illegal.html

The new rule against unlocking phones won't be a problem for everybody, though. For example, Verizon's iPhone 5 comes out of the box already unlocked, and AT&T will unlock a phone once it is out of contract.

You can also pay full-price for a phone, not the discounted price that comes with a two-year service contract, to receive the device unlocked from the get-go. Apple sells an unlocked iPhone 5 starting at $649, and Google sells its Nexus 4 unlocked for $300. [See also: Can I Get a Smartphone Without a Contract?]

Advocacy group the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) questions whether the DMCA has the right to determine who can unlock a phone. In an email to TechNewsDaily, EFF attorney Mitch Stoltz said, "Arguably, locking phone users into one carrier is not at all what the DMCA was meant to do. It's up to the courts to decide."

If you do buy a new phone and want to unlock it before the deadline, you must first ask your carrier if the company will unlock your phone for you. The DMCA only permits you to unlock your phone yourself once you've asked your carrier first.

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