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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:02 PM Jan 2013

How can Republicans/conservatives turn it around and revitalize? Over and over again in the media

I lose patience with this.

This constant shop-talk about how conservatives and the Republican Party can get it together again and win and revitalize. Every TV station (save for MSNBC) and all the major newspapers and magazines won't shut up about it.

Why must this be a matter of national conversation? Isn't this best left to people in quiet rooms at the RNC, the CPAC conference or Grover Norquist's weekly meetings?

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How can Republicans/conservatives turn it around and revitalize? Over and over again in the media (Original Post) bluestateguy Jan 2013 OP
Notice how repugs aren't saying they should change their ideology or louis-t Jan 2013 #1
Yes, there was a moment after the election ... LisaLynne Jan 2013 #2
The funny thing is, Repubs never re-examine their core beliefs. Just their tactics. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #3
Why? moondust Jan 2013 #4
They could stop behaving as entitled greedy immature selfish brats Fight2Win Jan 2013 #5
Because they're corporatists with a corporate mindset. It's selling the sizzle without the steak Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #6
in 2014, when they have their expected electoral surge, the problems will all be declared solved 0rganism Jan 2013 #7
I think they're trying to sell a certain narrative. MyshkinCommaPrince Jan 2013 #8

louis-t

(23,267 posts)
1. Notice how repugs aren't saying they should change their ideology or
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jan 2013

grow up, or rethink their positions, or stop hating so much? All they talk about is how they can: fool people into voting for them, con people into thinking repugs have our best interest in mind, stop Dems from voting, rig elections so they win with a minority of the vote......

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
2. Yes, there was a moment after the election ...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jan 2013

where I thought that maybe SOME of them got it, that their platform of regression and hate was what was turning people off and that they would have to change that. But, no, as you say, they just realized they were going to have to find a way to fool people (again) and then stop enough votes from being placed/counted in order to win with their ever-shrinking members.

They don't have the maturity to look inside themselves and realize that they and their world view has been fundamentally rejected by the majority of people in this country.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. The funny thing is, Repubs never re-examine their core beliefs. Just their tactics.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jan 2013

No one (who has a brain and isn't wealthy) really likes their beliefs, save possibly fiscal discipline. But they want the least powerful to bear the cost of that discipline, so no one likes that either. The only way they can win nationally now is to win state houses and gerrymander. Basically they must subvert democracy to win, that's how bad they suck.

 

Fight2Win

(157 posts)
5. They could stop behaving as entitled greedy immature selfish brats
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jan 2013

They could try to get on the right side of history, stop behaving as authoritarian assholes, live and let live, stop killing with our tax dollars and start rebuilding and taking care of people....follow the Bible they all profess to believe....

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
6. Because they're corporatists with a corporate mindset. It's selling the sizzle without the steak
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jan 2013

Their "sales" are down, but rather than self reflect and examine the viability of their "product", they put all their resources into marketing.

0rganism

(23,927 posts)
7. in 2014, when they have their expected electoral surge, the problems will all be declared solved
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jan 2013

Then the narrative will shift to how exciting this new brand of republicanism is, and how it energized the entire nation to vote against the socialist Muslim Kenyan Marxists who live in the White House.

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
8. I think they're trying to sell a certain narrative.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jan 2013

Discussion of Repug losses and their dwindling support dwells on their need to repackage themselves. As noted above, their core ideas are never questioned, only the way those are advertised. Indeed, they can't really change their ideas without losing their base and/or losing their backers, so they seem to be a bit stuck. Yet I'm sure they anticipate a time when they have greater success with the same old techniques, and they need to have this period of their movement's history already explained for the history books. Like so much advertising, the audience is being told how to think and feel about the topics being covered.

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