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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
1. Those pesky American citizens want a decent wage......
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

Check out the comments at the first link.

It would be ironic if the companies that specialize in hiring cheap labor find themselves left in the dust by companies that are willing to pay for talent.....

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
2. Yep
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jan 2013

The overlords don't want smart help. They want cheap help.

Do they care about the quality of the help, as long as it's cheap? .... You get one guess.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
3. Watch IT for some of those answers. There's stuff being sold in beta, for which the
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jan 2013

development knowledge base is being built out of the actual market (instead of creating extremely expensive authentic testing environments), which I suppose could work with some really good data mining, but the problem is that in some situations that first line of customer service, charged with the ostensible objective of supporting the development of a really useful knowledge base, in some cases, is ALSO charged with up-selling too and make that, TTE, "UP-sell or else!!" you lose your job. It's disconcerting to think of this symbiosis, developing systems being affected by more emergent markets being affected by what's not really quite 1.0 whatever but its in production anyway. I suppose something like that could actually work, but . . . . Wow! what a bitch to "ride the (ops) gain" for something like that! when everyone is just following whatever script there is on the screen, even the trainers, and there aren't any actual engineers, except in ratio of 1:god-knows-how-many-non-engineers underneath them several tiers up. Maybe something like that actually can develop what is needed, but you can see how it would have to get the absolutely cheapest people possible everywhere in the business model as the markets churn and churn from all of the instability and poor change management.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
5. Oh! I've known highly responsible respected, very mums-the-word engineers who kept Dilbert
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

in their cubes.

People don't talk about one another in those environments, but I was technical writer, charged with the responsibility of explaining things to other people, many of whom were engineers and most of whom were not and yet had huge power over what was going on. There are also several engineers in my family, young ones, so I hear stuff from that quarter too, make that, hear stuff OVER and OVER again.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
6. It's not just a problem in IT, I see the same thing in heavy industry -
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jan 2013

managers who don't understand the process or the product!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
7. Construction too!! Everyone's on their way someplace else, so all they need is a CYA,
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

which some fields, like "health" "care", ever so obligingly provide by means of "Risk Management", which is basically about how to get paid the most, for doing the least, for the cheapest costs possible (at least on paper/spreadsheets) and still not get sued.

People are forgetting about doing stuff for the love of and pride in the work itself AND a paycheck.

All of this is basically the effect of profit for profit's sake ALONE.

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