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AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:12 PM Jan 2013

Louisiana Will Eliminate Health Benefits For HIV Patients...

Louisiana Will Eliminate Health Benefits For HIV Patients, Poor Children, And First Time Moms This Week

By Sy Mukherjee on Jan 29, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Last week, Louisiana’s poor and terminally ill residents won a surprising victory when Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) announced that his state would not stop providing hospice care to its Medicaid beneficiaries. Unfortunately, that’s about the only piece of good news for low-income Louisianans’ health coverage, as the state is still set to implement massive cuts for Medicaid programs that “provide behavioral health services for at-risk children, offer case management visits for low-income HIV patients and pay for at-home visits by nurses who teach poor, first-time mothers how to care for their newborns” this Friday.

While Jindal administration officials argue that the cuts could be mitigated by Medicare and private managed care programs, the reality is that many of these specialty services are simply unavailable — or unaffordable — outside of Medicaid:

Health and Hospitals Secretary Bruce Greenstein said he targeted programs that were duplicative, costly and optional under the state’s participation in the state-federal Medicaid program.

Greenstein said in many instances, people can get the care they’re losing through other government-funded programs. But he acknowledged that won’t happen in every case, meaning some people will simply lose the services or receive reduced services. [...]


more..http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/29/1510161/louisiana-will-eliminate-benefits-for-hiv-patients-poor-children-and-first-time-moms-this-week/

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Louisiana Will Eliminate Health Benefits For HIV Patients... (Original Post) AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 OP
"Hurry Up and Die" is their motto zazen Jan 2013 #1
Exactly davidpdx Jan 2013 #55
So in other words... If you are not a "Maker" or a "Job Creator" Just die already! JeffHead Jan 2013 #2
Apart from being inhumane ... surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #3
We should just say it... AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #5
Republicans are a regressive subhuman species. They have absolutely no concept of RKP5637 Jan 2013 #34
I think they are hoping these people simply die quicker nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #66
That would be a death sentence, because of the expense of the drugs, wouldn't it? TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #4
Of course it is ... etherealtruth Jan 2013 #6
Please stop voting for pukes NightWatcher Jan 2013 #7
Gee I wonder why the Pukes keep losing elections? sellitman Jan 2013 #8
Hammer meet Nail... AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #9
They are just pure evil libtodeath Jan 2013 #10
I wouldn't say evil. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #11
Sounds to me like you just described "evil." WinkyDink Jan 2013 #19
naw... AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #23
And that's the problem atreides1 Jan 2013 #62
Agree with you there.. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #64
Perfectly said! n/t southern_belle Jan 2013 #71
When You Take Away The Means Of A Sick Person To Be Treated That Is Evil. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #30
lets make it simple. AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #38
Touche' You Are Right ---- It Is The "None For Thee All For Me" Philosophy. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #39
Of course they are sakabatou Jan 2013 #15
I just know . . . Brigid Jan 2013 #12
I think Jindal is subject to term limits LeftInTX Jan 2013 #18
Even better. Brigid Jan 2013 #27
unfortunately he won't be running again 0rganism Jan 2013 #35
Louisiana's Medicaid is bare-bones to begin with KamaAina Jan 2013 #13
But, he's in the process of southern_belle Jan 2013 #41
Now you know why I call him Booby. KamaAina Jan 2013 #60
Guess its too late jehop61 Jan 2013 #14
Here is the guy of stopping the stupid party and he is stupid in his actions. He lies. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #16
Ahem. Jindal was born in the United States. He is quite eligible. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #21
He was born in the US making him a citizen but not a natural born citizen which requires one of his Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #31
Born in the U.S. means he is a natural born citizen. yardwork Jan 2013 #54
Any child born within the U.S. nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #67
In the eyes of the far-right...healthcare is a privilege, not a right davidn3600 Jan 2013 #17
And even food is a privilege.. ananda Jan 2013 #20
I would suppose that includes AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Jan 2013 #65
And yet, millions of non-wealthy keep voting for them. Boggles. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #22
X( Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #25
Sorry, Bobby, but picking out only one disease out of thousands Warpy Jan 2013 #26
O! M! G!!! More of that spreadsheet-morality! but . . . patrice Jan 2013 #28
well stated! AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #29
Ah, more "Christian" action by fucking Bobby Brady. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #32
Isn't This The Guy Who Said, "Stop being the party of stupid." WillyT Jan 2013 #33
I can see why he decided to keep hospice care benefits, then 0rganism Jan 2013 #36
Did You Catch This ??? WillyT Jan 2013 #37
Thank you for posting this southern_belle Jan 2013 #40
You are welcome AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #45
If the programs are really duplicative then why will some not be able to receive it? LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #42
They want to make people who don't live by the biblical rules suffer the consequences liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #43
For every person who dies in Louisiana because of these draconian measures, an obituary.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #44
So, as we always suspected, the REPUB Party is the party that will institute govt death panels. Nay Jan 2013 #46
New Hampshire--"Live Free or Die" Louisiana--"Just Die Already" tclambert Jan 2013 #47
Don't forget, Jindal REFUSED to accept federal Medicare money. lurky Jan 2013 #48
This guy just keeps coming up with ways to fuck people over MrScorpio Jan 2013 #49
MrScorpio AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #50
A list needs to be compiled of how far this state/Jindal will go. babylonsister Jan 2013 #51
Jindal has people on his punishment list Politicub Jan 2013 #52
Well, that's fucking stupid. yardwork Jan 2013 #53
And they continue to wonder why no one likes them and why they lost the election. Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #56
So this is the "new" face of the Republican Party? Don't kiranon Jan 2013 #57
I have some very ugly metaphors I would like to use to describe all of this... stevenleser Jan 2013 #58
Leser san AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #61
Kimi san, I just translated those. Wow! stevenleser Jan 2013 #70
heh AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #73
The magistrate will appreciate one of those in particular since he said stevenleser Jan 2013 #74
iie, chigaimasu.. (no, different ) AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #76
Bobby Jindal = PIECE OF SHIT MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #59
But... but... Obamacare Death Panels!!!!!! uriel1972 Jan 2013 #63
There is no panel nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #68
Truly, my bad. nt uriel1972 Jan 2013 #72
Isn't it past time for single-payer? nt Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #69
"We need to stop being the party of stupid." - Bobby Jindal Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #75

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
3. Apart from being inhumane ...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

... it's just plain financially stupid. It will end up making more people sicker, and cost the state money needlessly.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
5. We should just say it...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jan 2013

Republicans Hate America and Americans. If its not about them, they just don't care.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
34. Republicans are a regressive subhuman species. They have absolutely no concept of
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jan 2013

how to find good solutions, their answer to anything is to discriminate, decimate and persecute.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
6. Of course it is ...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

... but isn't this the same jack ass that eliminated hospice care for medicaid recipients?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. Please stop voting for pukes
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jan 2013

LA is full of "family values" voters (anti-abortion,...) or at least that's how I remember it from 13+ years ago when I lived there. Stop voting for the party that wants you to die only because they purport to be anti abortion. If you continue to vote for Jindal and these other pukes you deserve what you get.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
8. Gee I wonder why the Pukes keep losing elections?
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:22 PM
Jan 2013

It couldn't be that they are stupid heartless buffoons could it?

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
11. I wouldn't say evil.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

They are selfish, self indulgent and greedy as hell. They care about no one but themselves. They are the kind of person who would climb over and step on a persons face to get what they want. How they get along, together is the amazing part. Its a wonder they don't shoot each other to get what they want.

IF you went to a Tea Party meeting, and dropped 40 thousand US dollar bills in the middle of the floor, and closed the door, within a half hour there would be one or two standing, grinning holding the cash.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
23. naw...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jan 2013

When I think of Evil, I think in the Religious sense.. demons, devils.. Evil is the opposite of Live. (Live backwards is Evil) which I think is where it came from. So anti-life. I guess in that sense, maybe it is. But when people normally talk about Evil, they usually link it to spiritual beliefs. It seems that way to me...

Being greedy and selfish is part of Human Nature.

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
62. And that's the problem
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jan 2013

You and others always equate evil with religion...demons and devils are just images, true evil is found in the heart of man!

What Jindal is planning is evil pure and simple, because his greed will cause the weakest to suffer and in many cases to die...that in and of itself is evil!

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
64. Agree with you there..
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jan 2013

In terms of definition, I prefer how Buddhists refer to evil. Since it would take too long to explain I will just post
a link: http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/evil.htm

In early Shinto there were evil spirits as well, but most priests would tell you they were misguided or confused spirits and could be
redirected toward the good. Shinto has changed since then where its all come down to learning social curtsies and while there are superstitions, people learn to go out of their way to be polite.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
30. When You Take Away The Means Of A Sick Person To Be Treated That Is Evil.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013

I do not care where such actions come from. Having been raised Catholic in moral theology greed and avarice was number 1 of the 7 deadly sins. And in my 69 years on this planet I have seen much evil caused by greed.

I do believe they know they are wrong yet they persist in punishing the vulnerable in particular women. I worked a welfare to work program for 6 years in the late 1970's and early 1980's putting welfare clients to work. We had a very good program that helped many young women get a job and become independent enough to raise their children. It was a very difficult job then. Now it is impossible.

Now women and children in need of welfare and assistance are condemned to a life of poverty because the GOP changed our program into a program of intimidation and punishment. They took away all the supportive services and created a program that forced women to take jobs where they could NOT be financially independent.

Because I was faced with being stuck in such a program as an employment specialist I retired rather than engage in such an activity. My orders were to do all I could to throw women off of welfare essentially when they had no means to get a decent job.

And since I left the GOP is doubling down on their war on women and are now doubling down again since the lost the election. With my background I have personally seen how their policies have effected the children of these women.

What the GOP is about goes well beyond the war on women as well. And they know what they are doing. There is no way a normal person can do what they are doing and NOT know that what they do is wrong.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
38. lets make it simple.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jan 2013

Its not that they know that its wrong... its that they just don't give a damn about their fellow human being. However, if their neck is on line, they will get on their knees and BEG to be helped. They are messed up just that way.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
39. Touche' You Are Right ---- It Is The "None For Thee All For Me" Philosophy.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

I do have a tendency to pontificate.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
12. I just know . . .
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jan 2013

That LA residents are going to vote Jindal out of office the next time they can, right?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. Louisiana's Medicaid is bare-bones to begin with
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jan 2013

Most healthcare for low-income people is provided at one of six "charity hospitals" around the state. The largest of these, "Big Charity" in New Orleans, flooded in Katrina; nearby LSU Medical Center has assumed the role.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
14. Guess its too late
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:56 PM
Jan 2013

To call for a boycott of the Superbowl, but conventions could choose other venues til the act like human beings down there.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. Here is the guy of stopping the stupid party and he is stupid in his actions. He lies.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jan 2013

Jindal is trying to make a way for the presidency and by the Constitution he is not eligible to be since both his parents was not citizens of the US at the time of his birth and as we have learned from the birthers a president has to be a natural born citizen.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
21. Ahem. Jindal was born in the United States. He is quite eligible.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

Obama's "Birthers" claim OBAMA HIMSELF was born elsewhere.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
31. He was born in the US making him a citizen but not a natural born citizen which requires one of his
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:52 PM
Jan 2013

parents to be a citizen. At the time of his birth neither parent was a citizen, check the Constitution since the president and vice president has to be a natural born citizen. Yes the birthers attempted to claim Obama was born else where and if he had been born in a country other than the US one of his parents (his mother) was a citizen of the US. As in the case of McCain who was born in Panama but his parents was US citizens.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
54. Born in the U.S. means he is a natural born citizen.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jan 2013

Many of our early presidents had parents who were not citizens.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
67. Any child born within the U.S.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jan 2013

is a full U.S. citizen. Don't you remember all the stink made about Mexicans running across the border to give birth so the child was a U.S. citizen? What you are talking about is if a child is born outside of the country. Two different things.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
17. In the eyes of the far-right...healthcare is a privilege, not a right
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jan 2013

They've made their views very clear on that.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
24. I would suppose that includes
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

Water as well. You can go several days without food, but water is essential. Yet, if you are crawling along in the desert, no one is obligated to give you their water. Its an act of human kindness and compassion that allows them to do so.

IT would seem Republicans are void of Human Kindness and compassion.

Response to ananda (Reply #20)

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
26. Sorry, Bobby, but picking out only one disease out of thousands
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jan 2013

is not going to be constitutional. We all know why you chose HIV, it's an STD in most cases.

It's just not going to work. If you want LA to pay its bills, you're going to have to tap the people who can afford to help pay them, the sainted rich. It's time.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
28. O! M! G!!! More of that spreadsheet-morality! but . . .
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jan 2013

If any one life is not worth our care, why would two, or ten, or 1000, or 1 Xs n be worth our care?

More of something that has no value in and of itself is not more valuable to anyone except those who build careers out of nothing but spreadsheets.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
32. Ah, more "Christian" action by fucking Bobby Brady.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:53 PM
Jan 2013

I hate that asshole's guts. I wish there was a hell so he would burn in it.

0rganism

(23,942 posts)
36. I can see why he decided to keep hospice care benefits, then
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:59 PM
Jan 2013

Having the poor & terminally ill people dying in the streets is bad for business. And there will be a lot more poor & terminally ill people in Louisiana.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
45. You are welcome
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

This is why I love twitter, finding things in the news that matter, and they are a great source sometimes.

LiberalFighter

(50,884 posts)
42. If the programs are really duplicative then why will some not be able to receive it?
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:27 PM
Jan 2013

Is the purpose of the cuts based on religious beliefs? If so, then maybe they need to put some pressure on the clergy that put those crazy ideas in his head.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
44. For every person who dies in Louisiana because of these draconian measures, an obituary....
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jan 2013

...should be enlarged and placed on a post across the street from the Governor's mansion.

The Feds should be looking into this....it should not be the state's choice to cut Medicare to anyone.

lurky

(2,571 posts)
48. Don't forget, Jindal REFUSED to accept federal Medicare money.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jan 2013

And now he's letting people die so he can win some points and position himself for 2016. Yep, that's pretty evil.
(link: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/07/gov_bobby_jindal_blasted_for_r.html)

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
49. This guy just keeps coming up with ways to fuck people over
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jan 2013

Looks like being poor and sick in Louisiana is just an invitation to die.

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
51. A list needs to be compiled of how far this state/Jindal will go.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:08 PM
Jan 2013

First it was Medicaid patients (and that had to be walked back), now this? Ugh. And Jindal wants to be prez? I wonder who is advising him?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
52. Jindal has people on his punishment list
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:10 PM
Jan 2013

I'm sorry that the good people in Louisiana live under the boot of a true psychopath.

Jindal creeps me out. He's a smoother liar than Romney and I didn't that that's even possible.

New Orleans is one of my favorite cities and the people deserve better.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
56. And they continue to wonder why no one likes them and why they lost the election.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jan 2013

No compassion or empathy from these sociopaths.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
57. So this is the "new" face of the Republican Party? Don't
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jan 2013

believe this is a winning strategy for Jindal or the Republicans. Can they get any meaner? Apparently, yes.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
58. I have some very ugly metaphors I would like to use to describe all of this...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jan 2013

but I cannot post any of it in an OP created by a nice person like Kimi!

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
61. Leser san
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jan 2013

I can only imagine. I feel the same way. So, allow me to say it in Japanese... Republicans wa Wakawakashii, dani, Kusatta Aitsu, Dekai guzu desyo! Neboken Ja neyo!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
74. The magistrate will appreciate one of those in particular since he said
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jan 2013

Republicans love America like a tick loves a dog. Dani=tick right?

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
76. iie, chigaimasu.. (no, different )
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jan 2013

"Dani" has two meanings. Tick is one. Good for nothing is the second meaning.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
68. There is no panel
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jan 2013

That would indicate weighing on a case-by-case basis, with some room for compassion or consideration of circumstances. This is just, "You're poor. We don't care whether you live or die."

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
75. "We need to stop being the party of stupid." - Bobby Jindal
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jan 2013

Bobby - It isn't so much the stupid that has people turning away from the GOP. It's the cantankerous, mean old white asshole with his head up his ass policies. So what you should have said is "We need to get our heads out of our ass and stop being the party of cantankerous, mean old white assholes."

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