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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:21 PM Jan 2013

Former missionary guns down immigrant whose GPS sent him to the wrong driveway

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-after-gps-sends-him-to-wrong-driveway/

A 69-year-old war veteran and former missionary was arrested over the weekend on the suspicion of killing a 22-year-old Cuban immigrant who mistakenly arrived in his driveway because of faulty GPS directions.

Gwinnett County jail records obtained by The Atlanta Journal Constitution indicated that Phillip Walker Sailors was charged on Sunday with the murder of Rodrigo Abad Diaz.

Friends who were in the car with Diaz told WSB-TV that they were trying to pick up a friend on the way to ice skating on Saturday but their GPS directed them to the wrong address. The friends said that they waited in the driveway for a few minutes before Sailors emerged from the house and fired a gun into the air.


Gandy Cardenas, who was in the car, recalled to WAGA that the homeowner made no effort to speak to the group before opening fire.

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Former missionary guns down immigrant whose GPS sent him to the wrong driveway (Original Post) Fumesucker Jan 2013 OP
We have a member here who would do the same thing jberryhill Jan 2013 #1
Another Yoshihiro Hattori case? Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #2
I doubt it guardian Jan 2013 #12
Well, in the case he is mentioning the kid just knocked on the wrong door CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #13
We'll see.... Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #14
So very sad. patrice Jan 2013 #3
If the trend continues as is libodem Jan 2013 #4
People have gotten gun crazy. Good grief. people pull in my drive asking directions all the time. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #5
Same here... Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #8
I'm a pet sitter and have to go into peoples' homes every day. You don't know how many times smokey nj Jan 2013 #33
Just standing his ground against a dangerous, hostile trespasser........ kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #6
wow! Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #7
Shouldn't we post this in the Gungeon so they can excuse this guy murdering a man... Walk away Jan 2013 #9
You would be very disappointed, if that is your hope. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #15
I'm never disappointed with the Gungeon...just distrubed and disgusted. Walk away Jan 2013 #21
Gwinnett County is one of the more developed, metropolitan areas. antigone382 Jan 2013 #10
A VERY Delicate Flower bongbong Jan 2013 #11
Like a precious orchid, really alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #24
One more thing we have to fear... Freedomofspeech Jan 2013 #16
Good thing that homeowner had a gun, or that driver might have been able to tclambert Jan 2013 #17
+1 LWolf Jan 2013 #22
Yes. And had a 22 year old white kid pulled into the driveway treestar Jan 2013 #23
Sailors' neighbors may be happier Ilsa Jan 2013 #18
But he was on my land, bang, bang, bang. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2013 #19
Must not have been in Arizona primavera Jan 2013 #20
If those are all the relevant facts, then it is murder IMO. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #25
"The group, which included a 15 and an 18 year old, said that Sailors held them at gunpoint drm604 Jan 2013 #26
Are there people sitting around just itching for an excuse to shoot somebody? Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #27
And I'd like to see somebody try to convince me drm604 Jan 2013 #29
According to the police chief, it was the kids who called 911. mainer Jan 2013 #31
That makes it even weirder. drm604 Jan 2013 #32
From the Police Chief's own mouth: mainer Jan 2013 #34
Oh, I believed you. drm604 Jan 2013 #35
if you have a hammer riverwalker Jan 2013 #28
Murder, no doubt about it! Long prison sentence I hope! n-t Logical Jan 2013 #30
Assholes use my yard as a toilet, I have never contemplating shooting them Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #36
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. We have a member here who would do the same thing
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jan 2013

I don't keep track of DU usernames, but we have someone here who was going on a while back about his absolute right to shoot people on his property.
 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
12. I doubt it
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jan 2013

I think the shooter is in big trouble. Simply pulling into a driveway or knocking on a front door is not considered a threat. Now if they had kicked in the front door, or climbed in a window that would probably be different in the eyes of the law.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
13. Well, in the case he is mentioning the kid just knocked on the wrong door
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jan 2013

and the racist scumbag shot him dead and fucking walked.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. We'll see....
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jan 2013

I've seen much more egregious shootings "explained" away, especially in the south...I guess it depends on how good the guy's attorney is...

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
5. People have gotten gun crazy. Good grief. people pull in my drive asking directions all the time.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

I give them directions. I don't shoot them. And before they built an all night gas station in a nearby town I kept a gallon of gas, funnel and flashlight on my front porch. That way I could help them without opening the door.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. Same here...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

Ironically, when I first started driving, my parents instilled in me to NEVER pull up in a stranger's driveway unless it was absolutely necessary...And I still follow that rule today

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
33. I'm a pet sitter and have to go into peoples' homes every day. You don't know how many times
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jan 2013

I've put the key in the wrong apartment door when I wasn't paying attention. If I did that with this guy, I'd be dead.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. Shouldn't we post this in the Gungeon so they can excuse this guy murdering a man...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:46 PM
Jan 2013

with his legal gun????

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
21. I'm never disappointed with the Gungeon...just distrubed and disgusted.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jan 2013

You all must be on your "best" behavior these days (whatever that means).

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
10. Gwinnett County is one of the more developed, metropolitan areas.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jan 2013

While it didn't start out that way, it is more or less an extension of Atlanta at this point. I spent a couple of years in high school there. I was told as a kid that way back when Atlanta was first sprawling out past its boundaries and into surrounding counties, including Gwinnett, that the county rejected MARTA (Atlanta's rail transit system) because they didn't want it to bring in "minorities." If you go to Gwinnett now you'll find an incredibly diverse place with virtually every ethnicity represented, so that didn't work out so well for the bigots. I know that when I lived there, about a decade ago, it was a very conflicted place--right at the interface of the blue, multicultural Atlanta, and the extreme conservative white outer portion of the state. I noticed that the guy was white, while his victim obviously wasn't. I would be interested to know what part of the county this is.

On edit: it's in Lilburn, pretty close to Norcross, in the Southern part of the county--not far from Atlanta at all. I don't recall spending any time there, so I can't say much about the economic or demographic characteristics as I remember them...a tragic circumstance, in any case.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
24. Like a precious orchid, really
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:39 AM
Jan 2013

The distant heat put out by a living Latino was a danger to his delicate petals.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
17. Good thing that homeowner had a gun, or that driver might have been able to
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:46 PM
Jan 2013

turn his car around and go on his way.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. Yes. And had a 22 year old white kid pulled into the driveway
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jan 2013

miraculously, it would not have been such a "threat."

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
18. Sailors' neighbors may be happier
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jan 2013

With him gone and in prison for murder. There was no excuse for this.

I guess he was all riled up by the local shooting of a burglar by a woman in her attic and the whole thing was recorded on the phone and played on TV.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
19. But he was on my land, bang, bang, bang.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jan 2013

I'm going to start saying that only cowards shoot unarmed people.
In 71 years I have never needed a gun.
But to be fair, the military has done a great job of putting people in harms way and then making them fearful for their lives.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
25. If those are all the relevant facts, then it is murder IMO.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jan 2013

Sometimes these things shake out differently than first reported, but given that witnesses were present and the quick arrest, I doubt there is any justification.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
26. "The group, which included a 15 and an 18 year old, said that Sailors held them at gunpoint
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:57 AM
Jan 2013

until police arrived."

What? Did he think the police were going to haul off the other kids and give him a medal? He freaking fired at them while they were trying to turn around and leave!

What goes on in people's minds that makes them do things like this? Are there people sitting around just itching for an excuse to shoot somebody? Did he think he was freaking Dirty Harry or something?

drm604

(16,230 posts)
29. And I'd like to see somebody try to convince me
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jan 2013

that he could have just as easily done the same thing with a knife or a baseball bat.

There are people out there just itching to hurt somebody.

A gun makes it MUCH easier for them to do so. Anyone who's at all intellectually honest has to realize that.

But I suppose if those kids were packing they could have defended themselves.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
31. According to the police chief, it was the kids who called 911.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

It was the kids who wanted the police to help them. Sailors didn't call.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
32. That makes it even weirder.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

Was he planning to just hold them at gunpoint all night? What were his plans?

mainer

(12,022 posts)
34. From the Police Chief's own mouth:
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jan 2013

Lilburn Police Chief Bruce Hedley said two calls were placed to 911, one from a passenger in Diaz’s car and another from a neighbor who said they heard gunshots and screams.
Hedley said claims of heavy gang activity in the area are false.


http://www.ajc.com/news/news/man-69-accused-of-killing-man-who-went-to-wrong-ho/nT8xp/

drm604

(16,230 posts)
35. Oh, I believed you.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:19 PM
Jan 2013

I'm just trying to imagine what the hell Sailors was thinking. If he thought they were intruders that he needed to hold at gunpoint, you'd think that he'd call 911.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
36. Assholes use my yard as a toilet, I have never contemplating shooting them
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jan 2013

And i'm sure the pissers sure look a whole lot more suspicious than these kids did.

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