There must be easier ways to commit suicide - one more Darwin awardee

[malaise]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/26/quebec-woman-was-cooked-to-death-at-retreat-coroner-says/
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Quebec police officers have completed their report into the bizarre death of Chantale Lavigne — who was “cooked to death” at a personal development seminar — and investigators are expected to meet with the Quebec prosecutor assigned to the case as early as next week.

It will be up to the prosecutor “to decide whether any charges will be filed, and, if so, what they would be,” Rene Verret, a spokesman for the prosecutor’s office, said Thursday.

The manner in which Lavigne died was “very unusual,” Verret noted.

An autopsy report on Lavigne’s body has yet to be completed, the Quebec coroner’s office said. But Radio-Canada quoted coroner Gilles Sainton as saying the 35-year-old mother of two from St. Albert, Que., “was cooked to death.”
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shut down the quack shop

[Tunkamerica]

1. i don't think it was suicide

[malaise]

3. Yes she's a beautiful woman but if you sign up with these quacks

you may be suicidal

[Tunkamerica]

41. i wasn't really relating the two; I found the picture after reading the article and thinking it

wasn't stupidity (necessarily) or suicide. The picture just added context for me.

[julesbell]

2. PRETTY HEARTLESS. NOT FUNNY

the woman was on a retreat w/ a spiritual leader she trusted. they were in a sweat lodge. something went wrong. people were injured. this woman died. and you try to equate it with her own stupidity? with the darwin awards? you are reaching b/c you want so badly to be funny- and you clearly dont know what you're talking about here. my god, i hope that poor woman's family doesnt ever see atrocious, tasteless, crass posts like this. get a clue. have some compassion. there are plenty of truly foolish deaths to write about. there is a mn being charged for htis woman's death. she didnt decide to die you know. my god. well, karma, hon. watch for your karma after a nasty post like this one. uck. humans can be really rotten.

[malaise]

4. Well clearly she trusted a quack

n/t

[madokie]

5. A real quack at that

[malaise]

11. 2, 000 X $18,900 per course

is guaranteed 'personal development' for the quack's bank account.

[madokie]

19. Some peeps are just stupid

his clients are some of those stupid ones.

[Logical]

13. I 100% agree. Not sure why people think the "Darwin Awards" is a cute topic.

[TheManInTheMac]

17. I always found the whole notion of the Darwin Awards quite disgusting.

I never could find the humor in another person's demise, even when it was a result of poor judgement. I think we've all done something stupid once or twice that could've gotten us killed.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

23. Ironic avatar is ironic

[SidDithers]

26. They weren't in a sweat lodge...

They were packed in mud, wrapped in plastic and covered with blankets. For 9 hours.

Shouldn't a sense of self-preservation kick in at some point?

Sid

[ProdigalJunkMail]

31. probably not when you're hallucinating...

at a point she probably became totally disconnected from reality...those temps cannot be good for your brain for that long.

sP

well, those temps aren't good for your brain at all...but long term effects could have caused loads of ill-effects.

[SidDithers]

40. You're right...

boiling frog, and all that. You lose the ability to recognize you're in danger.

Sid

[taterguy]

6. 85 sessions to "improve" yourself?

I'd quit at 83.

But that's just me.

[malaise]

12. I would not sign up for the first one

but that's just me.

[taterguy]

16. I'll try anything once

Well, almost anything.

[Sedona]

7. two questions...

was this woman living under a rock when this

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/09/angel-valley-resort-sweat_n_316137.html

happend?

and what the hell is up with the pointy ears?

[JHB]

8. Oh, for crying out loud, it's a costume

Someone gave the paper a photo of her to run with the story. It happened to be one where she was in some sort of costume.

[Sedona]

10. I would't be so sure...

a few of the new age types around here are in these get ups 24/7. Some have surgically modified their appearance. We mostly consider them harmless, until somebody gets cooked.

[polly7]

21. There's a different picture of her here.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/01/25/chantal-lavigne-durham-death-enquete.html

[malaise]

9. I recalled that as I read this

no quack will ever make decisions that can kill me because we avoid all quacks.

[MattBaggins]

20. May I point out to you the 43rd POTUS

[chrisa]

18. Zelda!

Just kidding.

I don't know why people go to these 'spiritual' sweat lodges. It's every year people die from them. They claim to "help," but are really just a bunch of bunk, and often downright dangerous.

[Jean V. Dubois]

33. There's an important lesson to be learned here.

Pointy ears, whether on elves or Vulcans, make chicks hot.

[Logical]

14. Sad and depressing post you are using as entertainment.

[malaise]

15. Entertainment?

Please - this is a warning to avoid quacks

[Javaman]

24. Nice avatar. nt

[Nuclear Unicorn]

22. Thankfully this is a rare occurrance ... medium-rare at worst.

Too soon?

Seriously though, when was this ever a good idea?

Lavigne died in hospital after she and eight others in a personal-development seminar called Dying in Consciousness were covered with mud, wrapped in plastic, put under blankets and immobilized with their heads in cardboard boxes for about nine hours, under instructions to hyperventilate.

Remind me why doctors have licenses, drugs have approval periods but this lunacy is left unregulated.

[Whisp]

25. ouch. I feel sad for her - calling her dumb isn't quite right.

I don't really like that Darwin awardee thing at all - it's cruel.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

28. she allowed herself to be killed

and you could say she was (along with the others involved in this ritual) ignorant of basic human physiology.

[Whisp]

29. whatever. I'll find something else to feel superior to or laugh about.

but you go ahead

[ProdigalJunkMail]

30. yes, because I am laughing about this

nice job...glad YOU think the worst of people. you obviously already have YOUR thing to feel superior about...

sP

[Whisp]

32. !

[ProdigalJunkMail]

34. ah...the retort of last resort...

can't find anything that backs up the shit you post...this is all you have.

sP

[Whisp]

37. I like 'The Resort of Last Retort'

has a nice ring to it.

picture some exclusive beach with umbrella drinks,
DU peoples sitting around in the shade
able to only deliver one last retort -
then there is total silence.

[Dash Riprock]

42. Why did you read the post then?

[SidDithers]

27. "shut down the quack shop"...

Shut down all the quack shops.

Sid

[malaise]

44. That simple

[hifiguy]

35. The underlying question is why do

people buy in to such obviously stupid shit in the first place.

And doesn't there come a time, when you start feeling ill, that you just say "screw this craziness" in the name of survival/self-preservation?

There's nothing funny about it, but this is the sort of thing that really makes one wonder about people's common sense.

[Blue_Tires]

36. um...The real question here is WHY is the con artist/quack not arrested?

and WHY is the quack still allowed to operate while the authorities are deciding on charges??

and as an aside, HOW does a quack get this much business?

[malaise]

45. Great questions

Wish I had answers

[Swede]

38. Well done.

[JVS]

43. 40.5 C is not even close to cooked. You'll get worms if you eat meat that cool.