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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:44 AM Jan 2013

Gun Control Agenda Is Launching White Paranoid Extremists to Prepare for Armed Revolution

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/gun-control-agenda-launching-white-paranoid-extremists-prepare-armed-revolution

The battle over gun control has exposed a truth the mainstream media is apparently too shy to mention: A bunch of far-right, white, mostly Southern, paranoid extremists are preparing for armed revolution and apocalypse. They speak treason: literally.

They are preparing to "defend" America from America with arsenals of weapons and stockpiles of ammunition. Their "enemy" is everyone in America not like them.

They think the world is ending and/or that the government is out to get them. That doesn’t mean it will happen. But expect violence and assassinations. Their ideology is made up of equal parts racism, evangelical Christian fascination with the “end times,” hatred of President Obama, resentment of the “Old “South” variety and a Fox News/Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh version of world history.

As the New Yorker noted:

“Every demographic and political trend that helped to reëlect Barack Obama runs counter to the [South’s] self-definition:…The Solid South speaks less and less for America and more and more for itself alone… Solidity has always been the South’s strength, and its weakness. The same Southern lock that once held the Democratic Party now divides the Republican Party from the socially liberal, fiscally moderate tendencies of the rest of America… The South’s vices—‘violence, intolerance, aversion and suspicion toward new ideas’—grow particularly acute during periods when it is marginalized and left behind. An estrangement between the South and the rest of the country would bring out the worst in both—dangerous insularity in the first, smug self-deception in the second.”
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Gun Control Agenda Is Launching White Paranoid Extremists to Prepare for Armed Revolution (Original Post) xchrom Jan 2013 OP
I have fun with their paranoia. safeinOhio Jan 2013 #1
Yeah you are right, John2 Jan 2013 #2
Can you blame them? Janecita Jan 2013 #3
Yeah. Shadowflash Jan 2013 #5
"The South’s vices ... grow particularly acute during periods when it is marginalized...." NinetySix Jan 2013 #4
excellent post BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #6
Then again that sounds like South Boston, too Recursion Jan 2013 #9
Southie is just a small town fascisthunter Jan 2013 #11
Along the Red Line probably not. Other places... Recursion Jan 2013 #12
boy did I have some experiences in that town long ago fascisthunter Jan 2013 #13
I worked in Fort Point before it got all artsy Recursion Jan 2013 #14
k/r marmar Jan 2013 #7
And these armed yahoos plan on ascending to power. Won't that be fun. Hoyt Jan 2013 #8
"...expect violence and assassinations." Hyperbole. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #10
wrong on all counts. Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #16
Wolverines!!! el_bryanto Jan 2013 #15
my 8th grade civics teacher made us watch that crap for credit. Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #17
The solution is to start adding anti-psychotic drugs to their chewing tobacco. Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #18
Sorry our "culture" of USA destruction comes from Wall St, not the south. Cynicus Emeritus Jan 2013 #19
Micro vs. Macro bongbong Jan 2013 #22
The macro is how the PTB get us Cynicus Emeritus Jan 2013 #23
probably not a coincedence the ATFs bust map looks like an electoral college map! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #20
If only they'd focus upon the real treasonists, the DHS and associated agencies. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #21
They (PTB) want us little schmucks Cynicus Emeritus Jan 2013 #24

safeinOhio

(32,629 posts)
1. I have fun with their paranoia.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:59 AM
Jan 2013

Every once in a while I'll get one of those old guys (in their 70s) talking about a revolution. I tell them this is what I heard, "they" have a list of NRA members and are setting up a computer program for unmanned drones to take them out with hell fire missiles when the war starts. They tend to believe it.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
2. Yeah you are right,
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:15 AM
Jan 2013

we do not know what is really driving their paranoia when they talk about these imaginary criminals. The criminals want get background checks for guns. Think about the old antebellum South and slave rebellions. There was paranoia then too. They got to have enough fire power. They fire power to secede too. They need stealth fighters and nukes. We have our extremists too. Some think these people are normal but I'll be more worried about the mental conditions. Think about it. Timothy McVeigh was more likely to commit mass murder but some thought he was normal. His thinking was more like Wayne La pierre because he saw the U.S. government as the enemy. And if you are considered a Communist Leftie by the Right wing nuts why should you trust them? If anyone is dangerous its the Republican right wing.The same nuts they want to steal elections and see fraud in every state they lose.

Janecita

(86 posts)
3. Can you blame them?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:40 AM
Jan 2013

Going against our goverment worked sooo well for David Koresh!
I think that they should all revolt!

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
5. Yeah.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:19 AM
Jan 2013

It worked out so well for them during the civil war. And, at that time the government didn't have drones, tanks, F-16s or smart missles.

Um. I'm not thinking this'll be an issue given the calbre of the 'great white pasty defenders of liberty'.



 

NinetySix

(1,301 posts)
4. "The South’s vices ... grow particularly acute during periods when it is marginalized...."
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:14 AM
Jan 2013

Those vices, "violence, intolerance, aversion and suspicion toward new ideas," which stem from a perenially parochial attitude, are the means by which the South marginalizes itself.

Older folks are the exemplar of Southern perspectives and attitudes, so change comes very slowly to the region, and only with the passing of preceding generations. Fear has been the underlying source of these perspectives and attitudes for numerous generations, ultimately originating in a time when white citizens were outnumbered by resentful black slaves. The old saw, often repeated in the South, that racism is a relic of the past, is nothing more than whistling past the graveyard.

This is the reason that people cling to their guns against apocalyptic visions, and a reluctance to embrace the uncertainty of change is why this dynamic between the South and the other regions of the United States will continue to persist, perhaps indefinitely.

It is also why some of us have had to leave.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
6. excellent post
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jan 2013

Good analysis.

I'm on the east coast but for nine years I was with a guy from Louisianna. We visited as often as possible.

It was so different...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Then again that sounds like South Boston, too
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jan 2013

I thought leaving Mississippi would get me away from "that". I was wrong.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
11. Southie is just a small town
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:20 AM
Jan 2013

and it's history is what you are talking about here... present day, Southie is not the town it used to be. Bad example.

I'm sure the whole south isn't like what was stated above. I have a hard time believing in generalities. I lived a short period in part of the south and met lots of decent folks who do not identify with the post above.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. I worked in Fort Point before it got all artsy
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jan 2013

And walked to and from home down by Castle Island (where I once saw Whitey Bulger). Maybe East Boston would have been a better example. (Where's East Boston? North of the North End. And where's South Boston? To the east of there.)

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
10. "...expect violence and assassinations." Hyperbole.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jan 2013

This story uses an anti-gun control headline as an excuse to spew anti-South bigotry and is simply an exercise in fear mongering.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
16. wrong on all counts.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:39 AM
Jan 2013

it is not paranoia to say that the rightwing gun-nuts are unhinged and fantasizing about civil war 2. you don't have to believe alternet. go ask them at stormfront. or the blaze.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
15. Wolverines!!!
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jan 2013

Sometimes I think Red Dawn will go down as one of the most destructive movies ever made - along with the Triumph of the Will or Birth of a Nation. Many Conservatives and more than a handful of Liberals fantasize about they day they get to wage guerrilla warfare against the encroaching hordes.

Bryant

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
17. my 8th grade civics teacher made us watch that crap for credit.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jan 2013

my friends and i couldn't keep from ridiculing it mercilessly and poor jessica got in-school suspension she couldn't keep it together. this was the same ex-marine teacher who taught gun-safety and once shot the ceiling. oh yeah. just a peach.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
18. The solution is to start adding anti-psychotic drugs to their chewing tobacco.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:52 AM
Jan 2013

Putting it in tooth paste clearly not an option.

 

Cynicus Emeritus

(172 posts)
19. Sorry our "culture" of USA destruction comes from Wall St, not the south.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:24 AM
Jan 2013

I don't buy the hype that the threat to America comes from common folk.

There are many many legitimately pissed off people in the USA that have seen their jobs go offshore as a result of decades of corrupt incompetent government policy that has been formulated not to benefit Americans, but to benefit rich Wall St bankers and CEOs.

For at least 40 years the elites we pay and elect have been making deals to sell out the good paying USA manufacturing jobs to other countries. Now they wonder why we don’t have a solid economy and tax revenue to support what was promised to Americans, before we were sold out. But the Wall St bankers and global Chinese-American corporations have done just fine. We had to bail out their sorry ass due to their greed and incompetence. The capital we gave them they are now using to buy up public assets from distressed Americans and local governments.

I can fully empathize why the AMERICAN people N/E/S/W are pissed off. I can also see why certain elements of society wish to keep us common folk divided and fighting about issues while they continue to plunder us. Americans need to open their eyes that decisions are being made by some that are not in the interest of 99% of the American people. The threat doesn't come from those brothers and sisters that represent average America, it comes from the corrupt boundless greed of those that control our politicians.

Progressive, populist, and libertarian on civil rights

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
22. Micro vs. Macro
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jan 2013

On a micro scale, the threat is indeed from the scared Delicate Flowers, who help in the massacre & slaughter of Americans by gun nuts.

On a macro scale, those nuts don't make a bit of difference to the functioning of Corporate America. The macro scale is where the Wall Street psychopaths are the threat.

 

Cynicus Emeritus

(172 posts)
23. The macro is how the PTB get us
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:01 PM
Jan 2013

The micro is how they divide us. Their mission has always been to piss off the little people and our American family, as diverse as it is, at each other, while they connive to push us into wars and plunder us.

 

Cynicus Emeritus

(172 posts)
24. They (PTB) want us little schmucks
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:06 PM
Jan 2013

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always angry at other little schmucks because of fictional misinformation. Then they can hurd us around as sheep and advance what is important for them.....$$$$, wars and power. These kinds of articles and theories work perfectly.

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