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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAtheist Mom Who Penned Viral Essay About Raising Kids ‘Without God’ Speaks Out
In her original post, Mitchell described lying to her son from an early age about the existence of God, as she wanted her child to feel safe. She told him religious stories, comparing the elaborate tale she built to the falsities many people tell their kids about Santa Claus. Fearing that her son would one day, after realizing that the stories were untrue, no longer trust his mothers judgement, she made the decision to change course and raise him without God. Mitchell writes:
And so I thought it was only right to be honest with my children. I am a non-believer, and for years Ive been on the fringe in my community. As a blogger, though, Ive found that there are many other parents out there like me. We are creating the next generation of kids, and there is a wave of young agnostics, atheists, free thinkers and humanists rising up through the ranks who will, hopefully, lower our nations religious fever.
http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/i-was-totally-taken-aback-atheist-mom-deborah-mitchell-on-the-reaction-to-her-cnn-ireport-essay/
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)The Blaze is a shit site owned by a shit man.
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JHB
(37,158 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)when nobody really knows, for sure?
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)It's not like saying, "I lied about the Earth being round/flat."
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)there's no reason to think there is an invisible man or entity hovering over planet Earth and billions of other galaxies pulling strings, so the presumption is there is no such thing and why pretend differently unless something happens to change that? The proof should be on the people asserting that some unlikely fantasy creature is indeed real. Likewise, if Santa actually materializes with flying reindeer, or a non-rhino unicorn appears, or Thor comes out of Valhalla, then we can change our tunes about these things as well.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Not liars because they believe the mythology stories.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Here's how I look at it;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=62373
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Deluded? Likely.
Are you finding yourself lumped into that group?
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)would be coming out of Asgard rather than Valhalla.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Thor might kick my ass for that!
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)cool about that sort of thing.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)I have let my children pursue their own curiosities and make their own decisions. When my daughter was younger she would sometimes go to church with a friend, but she became an atheist pretty early on. She couldn't stand to see all the bad things happening in the world and the horrible way people treated each. My son first gained an interest in mythology. He is still interested in religious stories and the history of religion, but to him they are just stories. I never told my children God does not exist. I did not tell them God did exist. They figured out what they wanted to believe by themselves.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)One, the definition of a lie is intentional deception. If she represents to her kid that God is real when that is contrary to what she believes is true, it is a lie regardless of what the objective truth is.
Second, we do know for sure. We know the foundational stories of religion are either made up or exaggerated to the point where it is more accurate to say they were made up. We know for a fact that the development of life on Earth occurred purely be natural processes. Since part of the definition of God is that of the creator, this alone almost defines Him out of existence. There is the unanswerable problem of theodicy, unanswerable that is unless one is willing to admit that there is no God. A universe with a directing influence is fundamentally different than a universe without one and if He were real there would be evidence of it everywhere. As it is, the best that theists can do is point to areas of ignorance and assume God is the explanation. We know that a certain % of what people see at any moment are hallucinations and that sometimes more complete hallucinations occur. We know people can be crazy or dishonest. And we know people read purpose into everything and are prone to confirmation bias. Finally, any God capable of running the universe would have to be exponentially more complicated than the universe and that much more unlikely.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)It is an enormous decision that can have a profound effect on a person's life.
Indoctrinating children into a religious (or atheistic) belief system long before they have the capacity to understand the belief or make a real choice is, IMO, wrong because someone else is making that decision for them.
ceile
(8,692 posts)I'm not a believer, dad is but in more of a "I like the tradition" than actual belief. He can make up his own mind when he's ready. If he wants to go to church w/ a friend so be it.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)is taken to church nursery early in life. At an impressionable age, they are then introduced to regular church service and classes where they are told there is a hell waiting for them if they don't believe in something they had never heard or imagined until that time.
kristamonroe
(5 posts)nice post!
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)One of my children is a heathen and I'm not quite sure what the other believes.
vanlassie
(5,669 posts)are "beliefs" -ie "what you think is true" and there is "truth" -what you can prove with data. I have NO PROBLEM with my neighbor BELIEVING whatever he wants. I DO have a problem when he tells my kid his BELIEFS as TRUTH without the data to back himself up.
After all, the big teaching in churches is: "You just have to BELIEVE!"
Lionessa
(3,894 posts)the Bunny, or god.
Children, according to Americans, are to be lied to and then disciplined when they call out their parents for being the useless liars they usually are.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)or God either. I really don't see what the big deal is. I didn't want to lie to my kids.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I can't fault his logic.