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ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:04 PM Jan 2013

Timbuktu residents say 'Thank you God' that rebel Islamists are gone (+video)

Under watch of French soldiers, inhabitants of the ancient crossroads city turn on the radio, and start to breathe the freer air.
By Rukmini Callimachi, Associated Press / January 31, 2013
Timbuktu, Mali

A leaflet listing the regulations for women under militant Islamic rule now lies in dirt here at the tribunal in Timbuktu. Rule No. 1: The veil should cover the entire body. Rule No. 4: The veil cannot be colored. And Rule No. 8: The woman should not perfume herself after putting on the all-enveloping fabric.

Several days after French special forces parachuted in and liberated this storied city, there is a growing sense of freedom. In a number of houses situated across from where the rebels held their harsh religious tribunals, many of the girls under 10 are still wearing the head covering.

"It is out of fear of the Islamists that they still wear this, says Diahara Adjanga, the mother of one girl. "They hit everyone, even children."

The rebels seized control of Timbuktu and the other northern provincial capitals of Gao and Kidal last April. During the nearly 10 months of their rule, the Al Qaeda-linked extremists imposed harsh laws for women and publicly whipped those who went in public without veils.

More: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0131/Timbuktu-residents-say-Thank-you-God-that-rebel-Islamists-are-gone-video


for international cooperation in support of human rights.
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Timbuktu residents say 'Thank you God' that rebel Islamists are gone (+video) (Original Post) ellisonz Jan 2013 OP
Hoooray for the French. nick of time Jan 2013 #1
Vive le Mali! Vive le France! ellisonz Jan 2013 #2
Freedom fries. nick of time Jan 2013 #3
You're most welcome. ellisonz Jan 2013 #4
"Timbuktu Revels In New Freedom But Fears Linger" pampango Jan 2013 #5
Absolutely ellisonz Jan 2013 #6
According to some DUers, this is all very suspect... alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #7
Some DUers defended Gaddafi until the last and some still defend Assad ellisonz Jan 2013 #8
The fact that they thanked God is enough for them to get shit on by some of our ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #11
Obviously they don't mean it. PragmaticLiberal Jan 2013 #9
K & R good job France! rollin74 Jan 2013 #10
Mali conflict: Timbuktu celebrates end of Islamist rule muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #12
 

nick of time

(651 posts)
1. Hoooray for the French.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jan 2013

I know that the French Armed Forces have been the butt of many jokes since WWII, but they are just as good as any American service person.
I met a few of their special forces while in the Army and I certainly wouldn't mess with them.
Good job.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
4. You're most welcome.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jan 2013

Welcome to DU!

And go 49ers (well except for Chris Culliver)!

I'm very happy the international operation in Mali has gone as well as it did so far - for a little while it looked like the outcome might be in doubt. I think the deciding factor will be whether these "fighters" just try to wait it out and make a return to the towns and cities. The Sahara isn't exactly ideal for such purposes though.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
5. "Timbuktu Revels In New Freedom But Fears Linger"
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:59 PM
Jan 2013

Fatouma Traore, 21, said that there was one commander who was especially brutal to the women in Timbuktu.

“We don’t want the army to catch him. It’s the women who want to arrest him so that we can kill him ourselves. Even if you’re talking to your own blood brother on the stoop of your house, they hit you. Even if you are wearing the veil, and it happens to slip off, they hit you. This man, Ahmed Moussa, he made life miserable for women. Even an old grandmother if she’s not covered up, he would hit her.”

However, Moussa Traore, a 26-year-old teacher in Timbuktu, said the sense of freedom already is overwhelming despite the uncertainty.

“We were totally deprived of our liberty. We couldn’t listen to music, we couldn’t play soccer. We couldn’t wear the clothes we wanted. We couldn’t hang out with the girls we liked,” he said. “Now we can do everything — we can listen to music, we can kick a ball, we can flirt. All I can do is say: Thank you God.”

http://www.nationalmemo.com/timbuktu-revels-in-new-freedom-but-fears-linger/

for international cooperation in support of human rights. - So true! And may I add: ...rather than the 'rights' of states and militias to oppress these same humans by saying "What Malians do to each other is none of our business."

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
6. Absolutely
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jan 2013

I consider this yet another great example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_to_protect - I only wish some of our fellow members on the Security Council would stop being such hypocrites on these issues.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
8. Some DUers defended Gaddafi until the last and some still defend Assad
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jan 2013

What it amounts to is that they have no qualms letting extremists commit mass atrocities if they're able to fold it into their warped system. The same is also true with neoconservatives - the ideology comes before the good conscience toward our fellow human beings. If we as an international community are aggressive in resolving these conflicts with wisdom and due restraint, the result is less carnage and brutality.

11 Bravo

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11. The fact that they thanked God is enough for them to get shit on by some of our ...
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jan 2013

more spectacularly tolerant DUers.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
12. Mali conflict: Timbuktu celebrates end of Islamist rule
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013
"We can now dance and do whatever we want: We can walk together with women, we can shout, we're the young people of Timbuktu, this is what we like doing."

Music was banned under the strict Islamic law that militant Islamists imposed when they took over the ancient desert city last year.
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They can also dress the way they want to. Women have swapped the full black niqab, or full-face veil, for colourful local pagnes, a piece cloth wrapped around the body to form a skirt.
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Dozens of people were out in the streets breaking into shops owned by ethnic Arabs and Tuaregs, whom they accuse of having collaborated with the militant Islamists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21274341
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