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Associates of Ron Paul are claiming that the presidential candidate signed off on his controversial newsletters in the 1990s, the Washington Post reports:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/4795
Breaking!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)appal_jack
(3,813 posts)Paul is campaigning to be the Nation's chief executive, yet he refuses to take responsibility for his actions as executive of a friggin' second-rate racist bullshit newsletter.
Fuck him, and his racist homophobic shuck & jive show.
-app
BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)Just like last night, blurted out amongst all the audience rancor, he outright called the Community Reinvestment Act - "Affirmative Action".
The fact is that this law, as originally intended, was supposed to increase lending in under-served or un-served communities. By not offering equal opportunity, you ignore the fact that you are telling people without bootstraps to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. But the other fact is that this law was corrupted by greedy repukes like Phil Gramm (through Gramm-Bliley-Leach) to use the authority to create a junk investment "product" that milked communities dry and made money off of them.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)- they had a LOWER failure rate.
Here is an excellent explanation - http://www.johnkerry.com/blog/entry/community_reinvestment_act_loans_were_good_investments/
The Republicans, always trying to make any problem benefit their agenda have created a mythology that blames the meltdown on Freddie and Fannie and the community reinvestment Act. In fact, the repeal of Glass/Stegall (thanks Senator Gramm), the non regulation of derivatives and credit swaps (thanks Senator Gramm) and the change in the leverage rate in early 2004 from 1:12 to 1:44 all had more to do with creating the bubble.
It is true that risky loans made it more likely that the house of cards would fall, but a steep recession could have led to the same meltdown as it could have led to same combination of foreclosures and steeply declining house values. They were betting on the combination of the rates being high enough, the percent of houses defaulting being low enough, and the remaining value in the house that the bank got being high enough that there would be a continuing positive income stream. I am sure the mathematicians in the Financial communities simulated the result varying these factors - and probably other factors that I can't think of. If the value of homes did not rapidly fall, this does not seem to fall apart - but home prices fell everywhere.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)"none so blind as those who won't see" aire.
Paul needs to resign from public life entirely and shame on the GOP if they don't throw him out.
Spazito
(50,151 posts)is naive, to say the least, imo. Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic, antisemitic, misogynistic POS.
Fuck Ron Paul.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,222 posts)This should be a bumpersticker. And I would add, "his supporters too".
fishwax
(29,148 posts)His name is in the title and all.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)Those newsletters contained his name in the title, contained his signature, and were promoted by him.
If he didn't endorse those newsletters and weren't aware of their content, that means he's a monumental idiot who lent his name and reputation to bigots. How this is somehow better than him actually endorsing those newsletters is beyond my understanding.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)The most sensible option would be to say "Yes I wrote those things, but they were 20 or 30 years ago and I no longer believe what I wrote back then". I'm not saying that's the truth, but it would have made him look less of an idiot.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)rurallib
(62,379 posts)not
barbtries
(28,769 posts)they went out under his name. there was someone who didn't believe that? jeez.
the republican slate is a fucking JOKE.
Galraedia
(5,020 posts)The willful ignorance of the Ron Paul supporter is more like that of a religious fanatic than a political supporter.
barbtries
(28,769 posts)which is a comfort of sorts. it has to be a cult of personality and they do have to engage in some serious denial to support that asshat.
Galraedia
(5,020 posts)If youre bitten by a Ron Paul supporter if you dont become one, you do become a carrier.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)Because that was his excuse for them. "I never read them. I didn't know what was in them."
I will never understand why repubs could back people with that kind of mendacious denial, and do it over and over. Paul, Cain, Gingrich, Romney.
barbtries
(28,769 posts)i'm old school. lying is still not okay by me.
bayareaboy
(793 posts)Why did we take back the south?
I ask that question often.
Botany
(70,447 posts)In one of the articles which had to do w/ birth control or something
to do with ob/gyn issues there was a line that said something like;
"As a doctor I can speak to this issue ..... " very rough quote.
So not unless Ron Paul hired a ghost writer for the Ron Paul Newsletters
who was a Dr. too so he has his fingerprints all over those awful w/out
a doubt.
Hell there is videotape from the 1990s where Paul was bragging about
writing those newsletters.
Galraedia
(5,020 posts)Ron Paul criticized Lincoln for the Civil War. Apparently he has an altered view of history.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Of course, the cult-like obsession will continue. The Paulbots think him infallible.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)love that it is confirmed by a former employee and supporter.
Also really loved this from the comments section:
"Face it, one does not send out a news letter, over one's name, without proofreading it. Simply not believable. I also liked his comment during the debate that bringing up his age was against the law, and the questioner should be careful. This statement out of a Candidate who claims Government should not outlaw discrimination, as that is up to the individual. I guess it is different when it applies to him."
Of course the rabid fanboys had to jump all over it though. Ron Paul supporters are scary!
JHB
(37,154 posts)...for years as his defense.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)The message was sound, but the presentation was...strange.
strange...like Ron Paul?
I can't get the word timing quite right with it.
The Paulbots hate it.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I can't believe he is still in the race! Even Rick Perry had his ONE braincell tell him to 'pack it in' and go back to wasting taxpayer money in Texas. Paul has no shame.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)It's probably hard not to believe it on some level, even thought I don't think Paul is quite the megalomaniac that Grinch is (mind you, Grinch makes anyone look humble by comparison).
Rex
(65,616 posts)Grinch makes Satan look humble by comparison.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Spotted on Facebook:
BootinUp
(47,078 posts)to look at his history. Glad a major news rag decided to get off their ass and do the story.
ChadwickHenryWard
(862 posts)Is it better to be a racist or to just be cynically manipulative? I don't know that answer to that question.