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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:49 AM Jan 2012

WaPo: Ron Paul Signed Off On Racist Newsletters

WaPo: Ron Paul Signed Off On Racist Newsletters

Associates of Ron Paul are claiming that the presidential candidate signed off on his controversial newsletters in the 1990s, the Washington Post reports:

But people close to Paul’s operations said he was deeply involved in the company that produced the newsletters, Ron Paul & Associates, and closely monitored its operations, signing off on articles and speaking to staff members virtually every day.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/4795


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WaPo: Ron Paul Signed Off On Racist Newsletters (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Lying, racist, greedy shitstain. Scuba Jan 2012 #1
Yup. Add 'hypocrite' to that list. appal_jack Jan 2012 #12
Of course he did BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #2
Even so, the loans given under the CRA did not have a greater failure rate karynnj Jan 2012 #8
As with Herman Cain it's taking on a Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #3
Anyone who actually believed he didn't sign off on those letters... Spazito Jan 2012 #4
"Fuck Ron Paul." Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #6
yeah, it's laughable fishwax Jan 2012 #7
He would be an even bigger shitstain if he didn't sign off on them Major Nikon Jan 2012 #9
Thank you! I could not have said it better! arcane1 Jan 2012 #11
That's why the lying was so counterproductive nxylas Jan 2012 #16
but, he's against the war, so it's all good NewJeffCT Jan 2012 #13
Sur-Prise! rurallib Jan 2012 #5
of course he did. barbtries Jan 2012 #10
You haven't met too many Paulbots have you? Galraedia Jan 2012 #19
i don't think i've ever met even one in real life, barbtries Jan 2012 #20
Pray that you never meet one. Galraedia Jan 2012 #21
Apparently, Ron Paul didn't believe it. caseymoz Jan 2012 #24
me either barbtries Jan 2012 #26
after the civil war... ... bayareaboy Jan 2012 #14
Of course Ron Paul was connected to the production of the "Ron Paul Newsletter" Botany Jan 2012 #15
Ron Paul is a neo-confederate. Galraedia Jan 2012 #17
Exposure of such a lie (not to mention racism) should end his campaign. morningfog Jan 2012 #18
Ron Paul is a bigoted hate monger abelenkpe Jan 2012 #22
Of course, but I like how he tried to say he defrauded his subscribers... JHB Jan 2012 #23
Fuck Ron Paul. ellisonz Jan 2012 #25
OK, that was just weird nxylas Jan 2012 #27
lol ellisonz Jan 2012 #29
That's good. How do you do it? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #34
Here you go: ellisonz Jan 2012 #36
Ron Paul is SO busted!!!! Rex Jan 2012 #28
When you have an entire cult telling you you're the chosen one nxylas Jan 2012 #30
True, I forget he is a Cult Leader. Rex Jan 2012 #32
His followers sure like to congratulate themselves, though nxylas Jan 2012 #37
This was painfully obvious to anyone that made any effort BootinUp Jan 2012 #31
The article says he never believed it and just added it to drum up controversy. ChadwickHenryWard Jan 2012 #33
commie pinko rag mdmc Jan 2012 #35
 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
12. Yup. Add 'hypocrite' to that list.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jan 2012

Paul is campaigning to be the Nation's chief executive, yet he refuses to take responsibility for his actions as executive of a friggin' second-rate racist bullshit newsletter.

Fuck him, and his racist homophobic shuck & jive show.

-app

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
2. Of course he did
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jan 2012

Just like last night, blurted out amongst all the audience rancor, he outright called the Community Reinvestment Act - "Affirmative Action".

The fact is that this law, as originally intended, was supposed to increase lending in under-served or un-served communities. By not offering equal opportunity, you ignore the fact that you are telling people without bootstraps to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. But the other fact is that this law was corrupted by greedy repukes like Phil Gramm (through Gramm-Bliley-Leach) to use the authority to create a junk investment "product" that milked communities dry and made money off of them.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
8. Even so, the loans given under the CRA did not have a greater failure rate
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jan 2012

- they had a LOWER failure rate.

Here is an excellent explanation - http://www.johnkerry.com/blog/entry/community_reinvestment_act_loans_were_good_investments/

The Republicans, always trying to make any problem benefit their agenda have created a mythology that blames the meltdown on Freddie and Fannie and the community reinvestment Act. In fact, the repeal of Glass/Stegall (thanks Senator Gramm), the non regulation of derivatives and credit swaps (thanks Senator Gramm) and the change in the leverage rate in early 2004 from 1:12 to 1:44 all had more to do with creating the bubble.

It is true that risky loans made it more likely that the house of cards would fall, but a steep recession could have led to the same meltdown as it could have led to same combination of foreclosures and steeply declining house values. They were betting on the combination of the rates being high enough, the percent of houses defaulting being low enough, and the remaining value in the house that the bank got being high enough that there would be a continuing positive income stream. I am sure the mathematicians in the Financial communities simulated the result varying these factors - and probably other factors that I can't think of. If the value of homes did not rapidly fall, this does not seem to fall apart - but home prices fell everywhere.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. As with Herman Cain it's taking on a
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:07 PM
Jan 2012

"none so blind as those who won't see" aire.

Paul needs to resign from public life entirely and shame on the GOP if they don't throw him out.

Spazito

(50,151 posts)
4. Anyone who actually believed he didn't sign off on those letters...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jan 2012

is naive, to say the least, imo. Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic, antisemitic, misogynistic POS.

Fuck Ron Paul.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
9. He would be an even bigger shitstain if he didn't sign off on them
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jan 2012

Those newsletters contained his name in the title, contained his signature, and were promoted by him.

If he didn't endorse those newsletters and weren't aware of their content, that means he's a monumental idiot who lent his name and reputation to bigots. How this is somehow better than him actually endorsing those newsletters is beyond my understanding.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
16. That's why the lying was so counterproductive
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 03:32 PM
Jan 2012

The most sensible option would be to say "Yes I wrote those things, but they were 20 or 30 years ago and I no longer believe what I wrote back then". I'm not saying that's the truth, but it would have made him look less of an idiot.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
10. of course he did.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jan 2012

they went out under his name. there was someone who didn't believe that? jeez.

the republican slate is a fucking JOKE.

Galraedia

(5,020 posts)
19. You haven't met too many Paulbots have you?
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:30 PM
Jan 2012

The willful ignorance of the Ron Paul supporter is more like that of a religious fanatic than a political supporter.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
20. i don't think i've ever met even one in real life,
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jan 2012

which is a comfort of sorts. it has to be a cult of personality and they do have to engage in some serious denial to support that asshat.

Galraedia

(5,020 posts)
21. Pray that you never meet one.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jan 2012

If you’re bitten by a Ron Paul supporter if you don’t become one, you do become a carrier.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
24. Apparently, Ron Paul didn't believe it.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 04:31 AM
Jan 2012

Because that was his excuse for them. "I never read them. I didn't know what was in them."

I will never understand why repubs could back people with that kind of mendacious denial, and do it over and over. Paul, Cain, Gingrich, Romney.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
15. Of course Ron Paul was connected to the production of the "Ron Paul Newsletter"
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jan 2012

In one of the articles which had to do w/ birth control or something
to do with ob/gyn issues there was a line that said something like;
"As a doctor I can speak to this issue ..... " very rough quote.

So not unless Ron Paul hired a ghost writer for the Ron Paul Newsletters
who was a Dr. too so he has his fingerprints all over those awful w/out
a doubt.

Hell there is videotape from the 1990s where Paul was bragging about
writing those newsletters.

Galraedia

(5,020 posts)
17. Ron Paul is a neo-confederate.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jan 2012

Ron Paul criticized Lincoln for the Civil War. Apparently he has an altered view of history.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
18. Exposure of such a lie (not to mention racism) should end his campaign.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jan 2012

Of course, the cult-like obsession will continue. The Paulbots think him infallible.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
22. Ron Paul is a bigoted hate monger
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:29 PM
Jan 2012

love that it is confirmed by a former employee and supporter.

Also really loved this from the comments section:

"Face it, one does not send out a news letter, over one's name, without proofreading it. Simply not believable. I also liked his comment during the debate that bringing up his age was against the law, and the questioner should be careful. This statement out of a Candidate who claims Government should not outlaw discrimination, as that is up to the individual. I guess it is different when it applies to him."

Of course the rabid fanboys had to jump all over it though. Ron Paul supporters are scary!

JHB

(37,154 posts)
23. Of course, but I like how he tried to say he defrauded his subscribers...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:40 PM
Jan 2012

...for years as his defense.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
29. lol
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jan 2012

strange...like Ron Paul?

I can't get the word timing quite right with it.

The Paulbots hate it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
28. Ron Paul is SO busted!!!!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:42 PM
Jan 2012

I can't believe he is still in the race! Even Rick Perry had his ONE braincell tell him to 'pack it in' and go back to wasting taxpayer money in Texas. Paul has no shame.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
30. When you have an entire cult telling you you're the chosen one
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jan 2012

It's probably hard not to believe it on some level, even thought I don't think Paul is quite the megalomaniac that Grinch is (mind you, Grinch makes anyone look humble by comparison).

BootinUp

(47,078 posts)
31. This was painfully obvious to anyone that made any effort
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 04:29 PM
Jan 2012

to look at his history. Glad a major news rag decided to get off their ass and do the story.

ChadwickHenryWard

(862 posts)
33. The article says he never believed it and just added it to drum up controversy.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jan 2012

Is it better to be a racist or to just be cynically manipulative? I don't know that answer to that question.

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