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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPresident of St. Paul (MN) Federation of Teachers Local 28: "You want to arm me? Good."
http://marycathryn.blogspot.com/2012/12/licensed-to-teach.htmlby Mary Cathryn Ricker
So I guess the NRA says the answer to stop school shootings is more guns, joining the smattering of elected officials who recently have promoted the idea of arming teachers and principals. This approach is wrong.
If a place like Ft. Hood, TX which has some of our planet's most deadly weapons carried by some of our planet's most deadly professional soldiers, can be reduced to carnage by a single armed assassin, then what makes The NRA think that arming a nation of just-right-book loving, denim jumper wearing, wooden apple bead necklace creating, white board marker toting school teachers (and the rest of us) will be effective?
You want to arm me? Good. Then arm me with a school psychologist at my school who has time to do more than test and sit in meetings about testing.
Arm me with enough counselors so we can build skills to prevent violence, have meaningful discussions with students about their future and not merely frantically adjust student schedules like a Jenga game.
Arm me with social workers who can thoughtfully attend to a student's and her family's needs so I. Can. Teach.
Arm me with enough school nurses so that they are accessible to every child and can work as a team with me rather than operate their offices as de facto urgent care centers.
Arm me with more days on the calendar for teaching and learning and fewer days for standardized testing.
Arm me with class sizes that allow my colleagues and me to know both our students and their families well.
Arm my colleagues and me with the time it takes to improve together and the time it takes to give great feedback to students about their work and progress.
Until you arm me to the hilt with what it will take to meet the needs of an increasingly vulnerable student population, I respectfully request you keep your opinions on schools and our safety to yourself, NRA. Knock it off.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)raidert05
(185 posts)Keep the military out of her mouth, bases are gun-free at the commanding officers discretion, but there are armed personnel everywhere on bases and lets not forget he was also one of those deadly professional soldiers before he shot the place up, he knew that those soldiers wouldn't be armed and wouldn't be expecting to be shot at on base. I respect her opinion and don't beleive that arming teachers is a solution to the problem.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)I see you are a regular at DUs RKBA. There are a bunch of new postings there... you should go check 'em out.
raidert05
(185 posts)I like watching the show that is the gungeon here on DU, sometimes it gets a little boring so you have to stir the pot
lastlib
(23,204 posts)you're gonna need a better spoon.................g'bye!
snort
(2,334 posts)I am going to get on my knees and pray to the flag right away. The nerve of that woman!
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)I think that it is very important to remind everyone that a military base had a terrible shooting in recent years. It gets discounted because "The guns are all locked up, and everyone is responsible" except the shooter. And bases generally have armed personnel guarding them. Plus they have armories that can be accessed. Any comment to counter above completely undermines the idea; If the guns on a base where everyone is well trained to use them are locked up for safety, then having teachers carry is making them unsafe, because safe gun handling says to lock them up, even around well trained soldiers.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)ajk2821
(89 posts)Does anyone go to work expecting to be shot?
frylock
(34,825 posts)and they are armed.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)young body perforated by various and sundry nastiness. Do I also need to keep the military out of my mouth? Because, you see, after my release from Walter Reed USAMC and subsequent discharge, I used my GI benefits to go to college, and much to the surprise of everyone who knew me, I became a teacher. I've spent almost 40 years in the classroom since then; and I agree with every fucking word she said.
I hope that's OK with you.
raidert05
(185 posts)Just as I have continued to do for the past 8 yrs in the Navy and will continue to do till i die,retire or they give me the boot, but I don't appreciate dead service members being used to prop up someones opinions from either side of the political spectrum, I carried to many of my own friends in a flag draped box to be stuck in the ground, who died in the politically driven conquest/invasion of Iraq, by some cocaine snorting, slack jawed Texan president looking to finish what his daddy started, sorry its a emotional issue for me.... Like I said before I respect her opinion and don't think arming teachers is the solution, I'm online with banning high cap mags, universal background checks and highly believe there should be some sort of Training-qualification to licensing for people to be able to purchase and own fire arms.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But I suspect that missing the point was actually your point.
reteachinwi
(579 posts)Arm me with a strong community that has the economic wherewithal to take care of its children so they don't grow up isolated, depressed, and unable to find their way to tomorrow. Rant
lastlib
(23,204 posts)Viking12
(6,012 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)with the emphasis on grateful that she is from my son's district
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)eom
Squinch
(50,935 posts)Arm them with the tools they need!
oldbanjo
(690 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)you know who is armed? the military police. you know where you might find the MP? on a military base.
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mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)mshasta
(2,108 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)at wooden apple bead necklaces.
K&R
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)We can only wish schools had the personnel to really know and care for their students.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I don't want to even call it a "rant" because that would devalue it somehow.
I hope it goes far and ends up on the desks of large numbers of people in positions to DO something about it.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... thank you both for bringing this timely essay to our eyes!!!
Beartracks
(12,806 posts)Just as people who only have a hammer in their toolbox think every problem looks like a nail, the NRA thinks every problem looks like something that can be solved by guns. It's a willful (and lucrative) ignorance, much like how the GOP thinks every problem -- like both surpluses AND deficits -- can be solved by tax cuts.
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sad-cafe
(1,277 posts)truly good
Maineman
(854 posts)The NRA wants only one thing: more guns and more ammunition SOLD.
They say current laws should be enforced, but block funding for the ATF.
They say we should screen out bad guys and mentally unstable people from owning guns, but they oppose background checks for nearly half of the gun sales.
They say an armed populace protects liberty, but they lie, mislead, and display and encourage fear and hostility. An informed and engaged populace is what protects liberty, not hostile, threatening gun carrying thugs.
When an angry gun toting individual or group tells an elected official that they are watching how he or she votes, that sounds extremely close to meeting the legal definition of assault.
The NRA is not an honorable or credible organization.
lastlib
(23,204 posts)made of lead and powder, and explosive when heated.
As for this teaching mentioning Ft Hood - why not - it is a great example of being armed to the teeth and useless in the face of a lone gunman determined to kill.
It'll be a great day when education gets all the money it wants and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy bombers. ~Author unknown, quoted in You Said a Mouthful edited by Ronald D. Fuchs
BumRushDaShow
(128,760 posts)here in the Philly public school system just over a year ago - http://articles.philly.com/2011-12-29/news/30569166_1_school-nurse-nursing-services-charter-funding
But the gun nuts would rather spend that money on weapons rather than bandaids or antiseptic.